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babylonsister

(171,066 posts)
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 06:51 AM Oct 2018

Trump's Lies Are Becoming Exponentially More Brazen


Trump’s Lies Are Becoming Exponentially More Brazen
Holding court on the White House lawn Monday, Trump revealed new depths of contempt for objective reality—and offered a master class in how the most obvious lies destroy the very notion of truth, itself.
by Tina Nguyen
October 22, 2018 7:03 pm


In the middle of an interview last week with 60 Minutes, Donald Trump seemed to take a perverse joy in baiting anchor Lesley Stahl as she attempted to wrangle him into submission. “Lesley, it’s O.K.,” he said, as they clashed over the narrative surrounding his administration’s migrant-family separation policy. “I’m president—and you’re not.” A week later, still riding high on the confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh and, perhaps, taking inspiration from the Saudis, Trump sounded less concerned than ever with trivialities like objective truth. Holding court before a gaggle of reporters outside the White House as Marine One idled on the South Lawn, Trump unleashed a dizzying sequence of half-truths and fairy tales, because he is the president, and the reporters in front of him were not.

“They have a lot of everybody in that group, it’s a horrible thing. And it’s a lot bigger than 5,000 people,” he said Monday afternoon, referring to a massive caravan of Central American refugees currently plowing through Mexico en route to the U.S. (In fact, the migrant caravan is a lot smaller than 5,000 people.) But rather than be content with a heaven-sent midterm talking point, Trump escalated. “Go into the middle of the caravan, take your cameras, and search. . . . You’re going to find MS-13, you’re going to find Middle Eastern, you’re going to find everything.” Criminals, knife-wielding murderers, potential Islamic extremists—that completes Trump-midterm bingo.

There is, of course, no reason to believe that “Middle Easterners” are mixed up in the caravan of refugees fleeing violence from El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras, beyond the fact that it would be convenient for Trump if it were true. A former senior intelligence official told NBC News that there is no evidence of any Middle Eastern terrorists hiding in the caravan. The White House has not responded to requests for comment regarding any of Trump’s claims.


Nevertheless, Trump continued his jazz riff of lies, doubling down on his false claim that Californians are “rioting” against “sanctuary cities,” which he first tossed out at a campaign rally over the weekend. “Take a look, they want to get out of sanctuary cities. Many places in California want to get out of sanctuary cities,” he told a reporter, who then asked exactly where the riots were. “Yeah, it is rioting in some cases,” he replied, and moved on, ignoring additional questions on the topic.

Trump could not avoid questions about Jamal Khashoggi, the Saudi exile and former Washington Post columnist who was killed in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul earlier this month—but he could inflate the potential consequences of placing sanctions on his new friends in Riyadh. “I don't want to lose a million jobs, I don’t want to lose $110 billion,” he said, referring to an arms deal that has actually only earned $14.5 billion so far. “But it’s really $450 billion if you include other than military. So that’s very important. But we’re going to get to the bottom of it,” he added.

It’s not clear how the money at stake quadrupled in Trump’s mind, but then again, the president has a habit of inflating numbers when the mood strikes. On March 20, when the Saudi crown prince visited Washington, Trump claimed the arms deal would generate “over 40,000 jobs in the United States.” Last Saturday, that number jumped to 450,000 jobs, then to 500,000 jobs, then 600,000 jobs on Friday, and finally “over one million jobs” a few hours later, while visiting Luke Air Force Base in Arizona.

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Trump's Lies Are Becoming Exponentially More Brazen (Original Post) babylonsister Oct 2018 OP
this is just the previews of what's to come if we don't take back the house...nt Javaman Oct 2018 #1
OK not to be nasty Timmygoat Oct 2018 #2
Not only that, his own children have mothers from foreign countries FakeNoose Oct 2018 #5
+1,000 malaise Oct 2018 #3
Unknown Middle Easterners... N_E_1 for Tennis Oct 2018 #4
Why can't the reporters just say-- ginnyinWI Oct 2018 #6
He was called on his tax cuts yesterday babylonsister Oct 2018 #7
We live in the sanctuary city of San Francisco. secondwind Oct 2018 #8
Ah, a sanctuary, wished I had on. erlewyne Oct 2018 #9

Timmygoat

(779 posts)
2. OK not to be nasty
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 08:49 AM
Oct 2018

But has anyone ever reminded Trump how his grandfather arrived in the US, his family were not even wanted in his home country, they have always been on the wrong side of the law.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
5. Not only that, his own children have mothers from foreign countries
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 09:05 AM
Oct 2018

(other than Tiffany)

But it's obvious that Trump has no empathy for anyone else's problems or anyone's situation. Even Trudeau gave him the photo and reminded him of his grandfather's time in the mining camp in Vancouver BC, and Trump took it as an insult and a put-down. We're talking about someone who has no appreciation of anything or anyone but himself.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,728 posts)
4. Unknown Middle Easterners...
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 09:02 AM
Oct 2018

How do you know they are there if they are unknown? Simple question his minions are unable to ponder and answer.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
6. Why can't the reporters just say--
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 09:06 AM
Oct 2018

"But sir, that's not true." Then he'd go to his standard, "Well that's what I heard, that's what people are saying." but at least get it out there that there is some disputing what he said.

babylonsister

(171,066 posts)
7. He was called on his tax cuts yesterday
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 09:13 AM
Oct 2018

by an msnbc reporter. More reporters should call him out.

Oh, and Shep Smith called him out on faux yesterday:


Shep Smith Methodically Fact-Checks Both Fox News And Trump On Live TV
“The president has offered no evidence to support what he has said.”

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/shep-smith-donald-trump-caravan_us_5bce91fee4b0d38b587b6ed0

erlewyne

(1,115 posts)
9. Ah, a sanctuary, wished I had on.
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 09:26 AM
Oct 2018

My daily 5K is the best I can do.

The sun is not up yet and it is a bit crispy (every morning).
My retirement dream, whacking out those 17 minute miles,
Me and the rabbits alongside the RR tracks (country).

I get home in about an hour and the wife is waiting for me.
She has watched Moaning Joe and I am going to get my ass
chewed. She takes it out on me about the stupid Republicans
believing Trump’s lies. This morning I told her that the
Republicans do not believe Trump … he says what they want
to hear. Our G.O.P. friends are racists and claim not to be
when out in the public. They will not adhere to reason because they
prefer to “cut off their noses to spite their face”. Fascists!

I love my trail but hate the after math (every morning).

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