Joe Scarborough goes full Godwin...

[brooklynite]

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[mercuryblues]

1. In Houston trump said

"You know what I am? I’m a nationalist, okay? Nationalist. Use that word, use that word." trump, Houston TX 10/22/18

[Ilsa]

5. That is scary. Next he'll state that he's

proud to be called a nazi or jackbooted thug. His normalization of vile beliefs and behavior is disgusting.

[Eyeball_Kid]

26. ... and his cultists are all in. They LOVE to be following a white nationalist.

People of color had better get off their asses and vote, or they'll be relegated to permanent underclass status. It will only get worse for them. They'll lose standing in Courts everywhere BECAUSE they're non-white. This is the beginning. Trumpy will dismiss the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. HE WILL. Bank on it. If he isn't shut down by an overwhelming vote against him, he wins. As much as the Dems and the never-trumpers scream for Democratic House, MILLIONS won't listen and won't care, because they deny the danger that exists to their livelihoods and the chances for success for their children and grandchildren. It's not hyperbole that this is the most important election in the history of the nation. The Constitution is at stake. Fascists are waiting for a total takeover. And we're all watching it happen.

[Mr.Bill]

35. Right now they are so brainwashed

he could probably talk them into turning in their guns.

[Ilsa]

37. Just Lindsey Graham joking about making

IQ45 president-for-life could make traction and cause the base to push for repeal of the 22nd Amendment.

[ck4829]

2. If the jackboots fit...

[BSdetect]

3. Description fits him so well.

[LanternWaste]

4. Godwin's meme is a popular fallacy to label an accurate comparison with.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

20. Yes

[Fiendish Thingy]

27. Godwin himself has suspended his rule for the duration of the Trump administration nt

[major debacle]

6. "If you're thoughtful about it and show some real awareness of history, go ahead and refer to Hitler

"If you're thoughtful about it and show some real awareness of history, go ahead and refer to Hitler when you talk about Trump, or any other politician." ~Mike Godwin, December 14, 2015

[gordianot]

7. I still wonder where the idea for the immigrant caravan came from?

It is seem to be almost made to order for a real Fascist it touches on all the Trump fear mongering for ultra nationalism.

[major debacle]

9. Wikipedia has an entry for this

Central American migrant caravans

[7962]

17. Its certainly helping him more than its hurting him. nt

[Honeycombe8]

25. The caravan is bad for Democrats. Very bad.

I'm seeing it on FB, even by a friend who is not very political and rarely makes political comments. That does not bode well for Democrats. (But bear in mind I live in Trumper territory.)

[jmbar2]

31. Completely agree.

I wish there were some way to explain to them that their actions may be a tipping point for our nation into full-blown fascism. Their timing and impact could not have been worse.

[gordianot]

34. Dirty tricks are so easy and people are easily manipulated.

[Charlotte Little]

43. The Refugee Caravan is not bad for Democrats.

These aren't rabid dogs rushing to the border to kill us all. These are human beings fleeing godforsaken circumstances and walking to our border to apply for legal asylum. If they try to hop the border, they will likely be rounded up and deported back. This isn't anything new and none of us should buy into how this is "helping the Republicans."

The ONLY idiots in this country who buy into the fear-mongering are the folks who already love Trump and who already hate brown people. If you think that if the caravan stopped and waited until after the election to get here, then those same folks you see making comments on FB would vote Democrat - I've got bridges in every country to sell you. Just send me a blank check.

Guys, don't spread this. You're playing into the hands of Trump. Correct people and educate them. Point out that this is a caravan of refugees, many who are desperate, many women and children (not that men should be vilified). This is not a crisis in the least for those idiot, inbred, privileged, pearl-clutching white folks.

God, I hate white trash and anyone who associates with them. Horrible people. I know them all too well, sadly.

[Beartracks]

47. FB friend posted caravan meme labeling them an "invasion" because...

... they are heading towards us with foreign flags.

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[maryallen]

50. That's ridiculous!

The Democrats had nothing to do with "the caravan."

[DBoon]

51. The Communists also had nothing to do with burning the Reichstag

Perception is greater than reality.

[Honeycombe8]

53. You and I know that.

But just remarking on what I'm hearing. Since Republicans view the Democrats as wanting illegal immigration, having a caravan of thousands headed here, after the U S just turned a caravan away, just brings the issue front and center again, and gets them riled up.

Some of the caravan are carrying flags. That's been mentioned as a reason to consider it more an invasion than seeking refuge. Refugees don't carry flags, they say.

The timing for another caravan is bad. Anything that gets them to the polls...is bad for Democrats. But maybe they're already riled up, so the caravan won't hurt that much.

This is a collection of posts regarding the caravan in a bipartisan group. It has over 100 pages of posts on the topic. It is a hot topic. http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/2976523-another-caravan-way-will-arrive-before.html

[treestar]

58. And it implies the voters are completely subject

to whim and just the latest news. Like what happens every other October is all that matters.

[Ligyron]

8. I'm just waiting for Trump to show up at rallies in a Nazi uniform.

His fans could return his salute with "Hiel Trump!"

Then his AG could come out dressed up in a Gestapo uniform holding a couple migrant kids by their ears.

Hey, may as well get shot for being a sheep as a lamb.

GOTV!

[Nitram]

12. He'll start with a chest full of medals.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

21. Gotta be one that incorporates super "too long" red tie. Nt

[maddiemom]

36. Trump wears the "too long" tie because he has a BIG GUT.

The end of a normal length tie would jut out above his belt, calling even more attention to his obesity.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

39. And his suits are excruciatingly too big.

[AZ8theist]

46. Yup. This....

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[zanana1]

10. That's powerful. And true. nt

[Nitram]

11. I guess conservatives are like, "Fascism is okay as long as it's our fascism."

[watoos]

14. I live amongst them in central Pa.

I gave up rational discussions with them long ago.

I can't wait until they take their post card size taxes to a tax preparer and realize the reason they have been getting a little bit more money is because their employers deducted less. That big return they used to get may not be there for them.

[Nitram]

18. It is a frustrating and useless excercise to attempt a rational discussion with any Trump supporter.

[mtnsnake]

22. Like, you, I also have given up rational discussions with them long ago

because you just cannot reason with them, period. They will put up with every right wing lie possible if they think it will save them a buck in their taxes.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

23. That's what I haven't been able to understand

I'm a contractor so I never have taxes withheld. But the vast majority of people get a pay stub that shows deductions. Haven't the tax tables been adjusted downward? It strikes me that people would already know how much they have benefited. To some degree at least.

Now the final verdict strikes me as a total crapshoot. Especially if you've itemized in the past. April should be interesting.

[BigGermanGuy]

24. central pa here too

you know what I've been noticing?

a LOT of minority kids wearing maga hats, hanging out with fellow white friends.

you can almost see the shame in their eyes when they catch me glaring at their hats. it's painfully obvious to an outsider they are wearing them out of fear and protection.

[ginnyinWI]

13. It was called, in English, the National Socialist German Worker's Party.

In German, "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei", or NSDAP.

So yes, he's getting close, isn't he. Must. Be. Stopped.

[Buckeyeblue]

15. We've seen this playbook in various forms

I think the biggest difference is that Hitler had a plan. He had very specific goals that he wanted to achieve. 45 can't think that far ahead. He is reactionary. He is a counter puncher.

His incredible incompetence is our one saving grace.

[RHMerriman]

29. There are a few others:

The US has had:

a) two centuries of functioning democratic government,
b) a federal system,
c) a civil society,
d) the strongest economy in the world,
e) non-political law enforcement,
f) an apolitical military tradition,
g) etc., to the millionth degree

Weimar Germany had none of the above.

[thucythucy]

32. The tweets weren't intended to draw a comparison

between the USA in 2018 and Weimar Germany. It, and the post to which you're responding, deal with the similarities between Trump and Hitler.

To which I'd add: a feeling of absolute superiority over others; profound ignorance of history; unwillingness to listen to experts or to people questioning his judgment.

[RHMerriman]

55. In that case. the BIGGEST difference?

Hitler was not a physical coward.

[treestar]

59. And they had the defeat of WWI and

the Treaty of Versailles, making them more defensive of their country than ever. We don't have anything like that.

[robbedvoter]

16. you do know that Goodwin himself said his rule doesn't apply to actual Nais, right?

Said it repeatedly the past 2 years

[Laura PourMeADrink]

19. Wow fits -45 to a tee actually thought he was describing him. Nt

[inwiththenew]

28. All stuff he did in the primary/presidential campaign as well

In which Joe & Mika were some of his biggest cheerleaders.

[violetpastille]

42. +1

[JHan]

45. yep

[zentrum]

30. These are Goebel's rules.

Just add in that inducing fear is the main way to gain absolute control of the people.

[Skidmore]

33. Scarborough used his critique

of Trump to actually boost Republican candidates by providing a smokescreen for trashing Democrats. Joe is cagey and just as egocentric and dishonest as Trump. He just has better social skills.

[StevieM]

49. Well said. Scarborough has not conducted himself honorably. (eom)

[Scurrilous]

38. K&R

[Ferrets are Cool]

40. So, Mr. Turtle? You are now in servitude of a Nationalist, right?

That means you are no longer a republican?

[lark]

41. I've been saying it from the beginning and it's still true.

drumpf purposefully" is emulating Hitler. his idol. He kept his speeches by hs bed and read them every night for 10 years per Ivanna. Everything he's doing tracks directly to what Hitler did. If we don't take the House back, we will start flying down the road to a fascist dictatorship and drumpfs version of a Reichstagg fire will come shortly thereafter..

[Power 2 the People]

44. +1000

The only book te dufus ever read.

[CatMor]

52. The problem i have with this is trump supposedly reading a book every night.

[lark]

57. Yeah, I know.

I doubt he read more than a few sentences. However, if he was really that enamored of Hitler, guess he could have read more, maybe a speech per night just to absorb the mannerism and methods of hate and crowd control?

[Stuart G]

48. For those who don't know......Godwin's Law...as defined by google. (link in a moment)

....A term that originated on Usenet, Godwin's Law states that as an online argument grows longer and more heated, it becomes increasingly likely that somebody will bring up Adolf Hitler or the Nazis. When such an event occurs, the person guilty of invoking Godwin's Law has effectively forfieted the argument.

For example, there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that, when a Hitler comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever made the comparison loses whatever debate is in progress.[7] This principle is itself frequently referred to as Godwin's law.[8]

Link...Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

So..to make the argument totally clear...What is being said is since Joe Scar..has brought up the comparison to Hitler...it means that Joe Scar...is also a Nazi sympathizer, since he brought up the topic...He looses the argument since he brought it up..according to Godwin's Law.. That is what everyone is saying, isn't it?..

I don't know if Joe is or isn't a Nazi,...But as pointed out earlier..Trump admired Hitler and loves the adulation..To put a check on Trump...We and everyone who agrees that Trump is dangerous....MUST VOTE..IN 2 WEEKS

[KelleyKramer]

54. Godwin said he is suspending the rule...

He said he was suspending the rule for the entire Trump administration

[Martin Eden]

56. Bookmarked n/t