Heard rumors that some suspect Trump of

[gopiscrap]

financing the refugees walking north through Central America

[lame54]

1. Some people say

[Mr.Bill]

62. No, you're doing it wrong.

It's "everybody is saying".

[grantcart]

66. "Could be who knows?"

[Mr.Bill]

68. We'll see what happens.

[grantcart]

71. "Could go either way"

[Baitball Blogger]

2. Looks false flaggish.

[global1]

3. Some People Say The Stock Market Is Dropping Because Of....

Trump's tariffs and higher prices for consumers that can't afford higher prices because Trump and the Repugs tax cuts only benefited the rich.

[gopiscrap]

5. I agree

[CrispyQ]

53. Let's call it "Trump's war on Christmas."

[C_U_L8R]

4. Everyone is talking about it

[brooklynite]

6. For the millionth time, these "caravans have been happening for years...

...long before Trump became President.

[treestar]

20. Interesting the media did not think to make a big deal of one before

[brooklynite]

31. Maybe because the only thing that's newsworthy is Trump yelling about it...

[TheRealNorth]

34. Faux News effect

Faux latches on to a story and the rest of the media follows, allowing Fox (and by extension, Republicans) to drive the narrative.

[NewJeffCT]

38. Yes - before Fox News and Trump mentioned MS-13

most people had not heard of them, either.

[Ms. Toad]

51. That's because no one was using their humanitarian actions

as blood in the water for GOP sharks before.

[sweetloukillbot]

57. They did last year

And I remember hearing about a caravan of children during Obama's presidency.

[duforsure]

7. Would not surprise me.

It wouldn't be surprising to hear he wants to bomb this caravan group either. He does this to intimidate others with , so in his position he can can ignore everything and do whatever he wants to use to hurt them now with. He's a violent person , so he'll turn violent eventually , and even against people here in this country. He's insane and senile.

[TreasonousBastard]

8. Aw c'mon-- don't sound like Trump with his "some people say"...

There's already enough bullshit going around about Soros sponsoring the caravan, and we don't need to start our own.

I have no doubt somebody in the mal-administration thought of such a false flag operation, but I doubt they have anyone who could pull it off.

[global1]

11. Fight Fire With Fire.....

'some people say' works for Trump and the Repugs - why can't the Dems use the same tactic in return.

Some people say that the Repugs and Trump will move to overturn Roe vs Wade as they have stacked SCOTUS to do that.

[gopiscrap]

15. agreed

[TreasonousBastard]

18. It works for the dumbest of them. Are we talking to the ignorant?

[global1]

24. And If We Can Use It On Those Dumbest That Support Trump And The Repugs And....

get them to change their votes - so be it.

[global1]

9. Some People Say That Trump And The Repugs Are Coming After....

Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. They are going to kill ACA and bring back pre-existing conditions in their health insurance plan.

[gratuitous]

10. You know, I read something about that on the internet

I wonder if Congress will investigate that?

[uponit7771]

12. Very few would be shocked or surprised

[global1]

13. Some People Say That The Trump Administration Will Re-define Transgender....nt

[global1]

14. Some People Say That Trump & Jarad Are Complicit With The Saudi's....nt

[global1]

16. Some People Say That Trump Will Rescind The Reagan/Gorbachov Nuclear Treaty.....nt

[global1]

17. Some People Say That The Repugs & Trump Pushed Kavanaugh Through Confirmation.....

even though they knew that he was a 'sexual assaulter' just like Trump.

[Grasswire2]

19. I have believed that from the get go.

I don't know to what extent.

It might just take a few notices posted in Honduras. "Come to America for jobs, for safety"

But I have also noticed that the people don't look like traditional refugees of the world. They all seem to have pretty good shoes, and adequate clothing that is not worn, faded, etc. They seem to be high-spirited, singing and dancing and with plenty of energy.

Compare them to the refugees we see seeking admission in Europe. Clothing shredded, gaunt, dirty, etc.

Something's different here.

I wish a camera crew and reporters would talk to some of these people and get a deeper understanding of what's going on.

[Grasswire2]

26. look at these photos from CNN

[link:https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/18/americas/gallery/central-america-migrant-caravan/index.html|

[global1]

32. I Totally Agree With You On This......nt

[treestar]

36. That is what amazes me about the quality of journalism

in this country today. There could easily be reports right from there. Journalists could be there getting facts and views from them, from Mexicans, going to Honduras to find out what is going on there. None of the TV pundits have any facts.

[malaise]

48. Precisely

[lunamagica]

59. They have reporters walking and talking to them everyday. Some say they have had the father

murdered by gangs so the mothers free with their children. Some are running away from general violence and poverty. I've seen a couple of college graduates who have been unable to find jobs

[global1]

21. OK People - Complete The Following - Some People Say Trump & The Repugs....

Let's start a string of these 'some people say' claims - just like Trump and the Repugs do to the Dems.

[gopiscrap]

23. yes exactly,my point...we need to fight fire with fire

[Grasswire2]

28. why hijack this thread? nt

[GoCubsGo]

22. Not the original ones, just the ones who are joining them in Mexico.

I wouldn't put it past Mushroom Dick and the GOP to pull such a stunt, but there are also many other possible reasons we're seeing what we're seeing. One of them being that many are joining them out of solidarity, and have no intention of trying to enter the US once they hit the border. There have been "caravans" of refugees making this trip for years now, so I doubt Trump is financing them. But, he could be financing the add-ons to stoke invasion fears in his cult followers. If he's actually doing that, we'll find out eventually.

[global1]

29. The Ones Trump Is Financing Are Carrying Signs Like.....

I'm in MS 13. I'm a terrorist. I'm from the mid-east. etc, etc, etc.

He wants those to stand out in the crowd. (sarcasm)

[GoCubsGo]

35. I hadn't heard about the signs.

That's just plain, fucking stupid. I guess there are enough flying monkeys who are fearful and ignorant as to think that these types of people would actually advertise who they are?

[global1]

39. I Was Being Sarcastic - It's A Joke....

It just popped in my head. I wish I was more computer savvy to be able to be able to photoshop signs like that into a picture of this caravan.

Sometimes one needs to go totally 'off the wall' to make a point.

[GoCubsGo]

42. The sad thing is, it is so hard to tell what's real, and what's not, at this point.

It might have been a joke, but it still sounds like something the Red Hat crowd might come up with.

[lunamagica]

60. There are not such signs

[Initech]

25. No way, I call bullshit.

Crap like this makes us no better than the conspiracy theorists.

[gopiscrap]

27. but if it works to win elections who cares

[global1]

30. The Difference Is That The "Some People Says...." Coming From The Dems Could Be.....

backed up by actual quotes of Trump and the Repugs. The "Some People Says...." that come to us from Trump and the Repugs are made up lies to influence the lemmings and cultists that support them.

[Initech]

46. I'd rather use facts and not bullshit.

But that is personally how I think we should roll. When they go low, we counter with facts.

[Grasswire2]

33. you believe that Trump and his crew are above creating theater to advance his desperate situation?

Look at the history books, fer cryin out loud.

He is, above all, a carnival barker attracting fools and rubes to his cause. A little sleight of hand, a lot of out and out trickery, a facade of buffoonery.

Underneath, a monster.

You don't think that a few months back, his "imagineers" couldn't see a caravan of immigrants as the signature event of this election?

[Initech]

45. Oh hell no.

This whole thing about the migrant caravan is to stir up his racist asshole base and that's about it.

[awesomerwb1]

37. Personally, I don't give a F

I don't want to be "better than them" if it means losing elections, losing health care, losing clean air, losing moral standing in the world, polluting the planet and losing my rights.

So have at it "conspiracy theorists" of the left. IDGAF.

I wouldn't be surprised one bit if there was money involved to organize yet another caravan just before the midterms. I don't think it's a stretch at all. 1000 times more credible than the shit the wingers and the lovely people at Faux spews put out on a daily basis.

[KCDebbie]

40. This is a variation of the "Perform vandalism

On your home or campaign office, then blame supporters of your Democratic opponent." from page 47 of The Republican Dirty Tricks Playbook!

It's called the "Coerce innocent victims to take non-violent actions that are desvribed in a way that will scare the pants off the believers of "White Victimhood" gambit...

[BlueJac]

41. "Coincidences take lots of planning"!

Food for thought!

[Ms. Toad]

50. Fifteen years is a long time to be planning this particular coincidence.

http://www.pueblosinfronteras.org/

[Thomas Hurt]

43. don't think either side is, but it is more plausible the Pig would do it.

[malaise]

44. Duh

I want the names of the Fundie church folks and the RW goons who are accomplices.
Fit's way too obvious that this is a Con set up.

[Ms. Toad]

49. It's called Pueblo sin Fronteras

http://www.pueblosinfronteras.org/

Hardly a right wing organization.

[Ms. Toad]

47. That's the kind of thing Trump says when he hopes something is true

or just wants to state a bald-faced lie but not have it attributed to him.

Please do a little research before swallowing and spreading lies.

There is NOTHING new about these caravans. Trump is just latching them as blood he can throw in the water to stir up his base.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/who-s-behind-migrant-caravan-drew-trump-s-ire-n862566

[Blue Owl]

52. DT Whispers

n/t

[Chakaconcarne]

54. It does seem a bit coincidental given the timing

and every GOP campaigns' attention on it.

Maybe not financed, but propagandized promising hope at the end.

They did wave the carrot of a first come first serve to 100 visas.

[Kurt V.]

55. i doubt it

[lunamagica]

56. Do the math abd see how absurd that claim is. These are real, desperate people

[Roy Rolling]

58. 100% True That You Heard Rumors

Of course, those rumors could be true or bullsh*t.

Reporting rumors and possibilities doesn't narrow down an event enough to make it an informational news story. But viewed as a tantalizing wish of every DU member, it's infinitely interesting.

Tell me more . .

[sandensea]

61. Wouldn't put it past him

Both Honduras and Guatemala are not only U.S. client states, they're currently ruled by very easily-bribed right-wing despots (Guatemala's Jimmy Morales particularly).

[jalan48]

63. An event that is ongoing leading up to the election? An event that can be hyped by the media to sway

public opinion and effect voting? Yeah, I'd guess there's some manipulation going on here.

[IronLionZion]

64. GOP's blatant lies that Dems are offering amnesty and free stuff

probably has motivated a lot of these people over the years. Especially if these dishonest statements are used by smugglers to convince people to try migrating.

[Javaman]

65. wouldn't be the least surprised of he sent his henchmen down there to

entice these poor people with promises of riches if they march north.

[hedda_foil]

67. I heard it discussed on MSNBC. Pretty stunning to hear on MSM.

[rickford66]

69. Another Trumpism applies - "You know it and I know it"

[They_Live]

70. He's doing the "projection" for sure on this.

He hasn't explicitly denied.

[yurbud]

72. Republicans are the kings of dirty tricks. the whole "caravan" thing

seems oddly showy.

Who the hell calls a press conference or attention to yourself in anyway when you're planning to apply for refugee status or illegally immigrate?

[enid602]

73. Theater

Juan Orlando Hernandez, right wing president of Honduras, was condemned by the UN and many countries for the corrupt and fake election that re elected him in 2017. Trump was quick to recognize the election results. Similarly, Honduras moved its Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem to show solidarity with Trump. This caravan is pure political theater.