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Mueller investigation to be disappointing? Oh, give me a break! (Original Post) NewsCenter28 Oct 2018 OP
I think his opinions on that article are spot on. n/t pnwmom Oct 2018 #1
Yep everything Bobby Three Sticks has done NewsCenter28 Oct 2018 #2
it may well be that - i have little faith left. maxsolomon Oct 2018 #3
Mueller isn't limited to just obstruction or collusion. He may investigate anything pnwmom Oct 2018 #4
At this point in the investigation, that would be left for the people to decide... kentuck Oct 2018 #5
He will not let the voters decide, nor should he. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #6
But what can Mueller do if Rosenstein makes a political decision? kentuck Oct 2018 #8
Nothing. Rosenstein is his boss. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #9
Palmer report is not credible JI7 Oct 2018 #7
People should READ the article flotsam Oct 2018 #10

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
3. it may well be that - i have little faith left.
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 06:00 PM
Oct 2018

Trump may have kinda-sorta known that they were up to something, kinda-sorta encouraged them, didn't want to know that it was illegal to not report it to the FBI, etc., etc. Mueller may not find deliberate conspiracy, but a pattern of conveniently looking the other way that is impeachable, but not convictable.

Trump's skated on everything unethical he's ever done up to this point. Why will this work any differently?

They'll flood the zone with whatabouting and lies, make jokes and insult anyone who takes it seriously, GOP Senators will carry his water, Fox will catapult the propaganda, and America's flibberdigibbets will think "what's the point, they all do it".

IMPEACH REGARDLESS.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
4. Mueller isn't limited to just obstruction or collusion. He may investigate anything
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 06:26 PM
Oct 2018

that he runs into while conducting his investigation, or he can simply pass it on to a US attorney, like he did with the Michael Cohen allegations.

We know from the NY Times article how Trump was handling his tax matters not that long ago. Why would have started doing it any differently? We know Mueller has been talking to Trump's chief financial officer, the accountant. Trump's no more likely to escape Mueller on financial issues than Manafort was.

Trump also has lots of ties to Simeon Migolevich's Russian crime mob. Mueller's been fighting that organization for more than a decade. Why would you think Mueller would give Trump a pass?

But this is also why Mueller's investigation is taking time. It must be incredibly complicated.

Did you happen to see this post?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211304065

kentuck

(111,098 posts)
5. At this point in the investigation, that would be left for the people to decide...
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 06:35 PM
Oct 2018

The thought that the people will help make the decision at the ballot box? If they keep the Republicans in power, it might be different than if the Democrats take power in the House?

Who knows? Trump is rallying his ass off! He wants the whole world to know that he is the greatest president in history, bar none. Undoubtedly, he feels the pressure from the Mueller investigation. (He would like to fire Mueller, but that might be a worse predicament than letting him continue to investigate?)

But, would Robert Mueller ever resort to making a political decision in a case like this?

It has been reported that he has cut some of his staff? And that the last target he was investigating was Roger Stone? (The Grand Jury will decide if he should be indicted?)

But also, we do not know how much information, if any, that he got from Paul Manafort or Mike Flynn or Michael Cohen?

Two weeks can be a long time. I don't know if Mueller has slowed down his investigation? But a lot can happen in two weeks.

Maybe he will let the voters help him make a decision on the matter??

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
6. He will not let the voters decide, nor should he.
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 07:01 PM
Oct 2018

He’ll follow the law. That, nothing else, is what he is required to do.

kentuck

(111,098 posts)
8. But what can Mueller do if Rosenstein makes a political decision?
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 07:23 PM
Oct 2018

I was very encouraged by Rod Rosenstein until that last plane ride with Trump...

Something wasn't right about that.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
9. Nothing. Rosenstein is his boss.
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 07:25 PM
Oct 2018

And you shouldn't assume anything about Rosenstein; he's been a pretty straight shooter so far. In fact, there's no point in assuming anything about the investigation because Mueller doesn't leak. Whatever we think is going on is probably wrong.

flotsam

(3,268 posts)
10. People should READ the article
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 08:05 PM
Oct 2018

before they bash it-It actually explains why the "disappointment" posts are BS.

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