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Tue Oct 23, 2018, 06:04 PM

How I flipped two Southern Trumpians on the Caravan "Issue"

Two Trump supporters got into my rideshare car and were talking about the caravan. "What are we gonna do when these crooks in the 7000 person caravan reach our border?"

I replied: "This may not be what you're expecting, but everyone knows crooks are lazy. Crooks ain't gonna walk no 2,500 additional miles under a hot Mexican sun. So I say anyone who makes it we can process their application under due process and the rule of law."

One southern Trumpeter laughed, and then admitted crooks are lazy. The he said, "yeah, if they make it that far, I suppose we can just let them all in."

Note: by imagining the actual journey involved here, along with its risks and consequences over 2,500 miles, these couple of people otherwise disposed to a fearful militarized response flipped to an open borders position, whereas i had only advocated for due process (where some would likely get in, others not). The flip occurred, imo, because fear of crooks was removed and the frame altered so that they had to think about human beings walking 2,500 miles in the hot sun, and what that means...

No fear, no Trumpian positions.

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Reply How I flipped two Southern Trumpians on the Caravan "Issue" (Original post)
Land Shark Oct 2018 OP
vlyons Oct 2018 #1
SWBTATTReg Oct 2018 #2
LAS14 Oct 2018 #3
ProudLib72 Oct 2018 #4
GulfCoast66 Oct 2018 #5
meow2u3 Oct 2018 #6
Land Shark Oct 2018 #7
Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2018 #8
Land Shark Oct 2018 #9
KelleyKramer Oct 2018 #10
uponit7771 Oct 2018 #11
Land Shark Oct 2018 #12
duforsure Oct 2018 #13
Vinca Oct 2018 #14
Land Shark Oct 2018 #15

Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2018, 06:11 PM

1. good point

nt

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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2018, 06:13 PM

2. Good points Land Shark. I'll remember these good points. Can one imagine walking this far?...

The amount of suffering must be outrageous and rump and folks are being are too paranoid again over nothing, this is nothing compared to the number of persons who have come over illegally during the months that rump has been president compared to when Obama has been president. rump is trying to use the immigrant issue as a wedge issue and it's kind of a non issue, when you compare that jobs are everywhere, which refutes one of their key issues against illegal immigration, in that it takes jobs away.

If anything, fruits and other crops are spoiling in the fields of our farmers. Lots of goods, produce, and other items have gotten more expensive because beside rotting in the fields, those items picked or harvested are being picked and/or harvested at more expensive rates. The stupid tariffs too, are not helping goods and services being produced in this country, and so inflation will continue to rise/increase.

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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2018, 06:14 PM

3. k & r

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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2018, 06:16 PM

4. Good job!

And good point: Death Dealin' Don deals predominantly in fear. He has from the very beginning. He's extremely dangerous.

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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2018, 06:17 PM

5. Great point. And trump cannot even walk 18 holes of golf.

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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2018, 06:34 PM

6. Good point. Trump couldn't walk 2,500 inches, let alone 2,500 miles

I never even thought of that. I just might try this on my canvassing duties.

#CrooksAreLazy

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Response to meow2u3 (Reply #6)

Tue Oct 23, 2018, 07:40 PM

7. Anyone still objecting would be a racist or incorrigible partisan

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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2018, 08:13 PM

8. good job!

Crooks steal because they're too lazy to work. (Tools get stolen to be sold, not used).

TrumPutin depends on raging, unthinking fear of "other". You took that away for those two folks.

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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2018, 10:33 PM

9. PS WILL DONATE the tip money from that ride. Lol :)

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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2018, 02:30 AM

10. Excellent point


I'm going to use that

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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2018, 04:39 AM

11. K&R,

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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2018, 01:15 PM

12. In light of today's news, i repeat: no fear, no Trumpian positions (or actions)

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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 05:54 AM

13. Didn't Moses have a caravan of

People following him around too? Wonder if others called him a murderer or rapists.

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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 07:35 AM

14. If you encounter them again you might remind them the real bad guys fly into the country.

That's what all the 9/11 hijackers did. Flew in, took a few lessons that didn't include landing and carried out the attack. You might get a few petty criminals in the caravan, but even a Trumphumper shouldn't be afraid of a shoplifter.

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Response to Vinca (Reply #14)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 11:52 AM

15. Good point. I agree. nt

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