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Ive been hearing the bullshit all day the Trump isnt responsible bullshit, the both sides do it bullshit, the lets not point fingers bullshit and its time to shut it down.
To those spewing the both sides are to blame bullshit, I pose the following:
Name one Democrat who has called Mexicans rapists and drug-dealers, who has labelled people of colour as coming from shithole countries, or has tried to ban Muslims from entering the country because theyre terrorists.
Name one Democrat who has called KKK members and white supremacists very fine people.
Name one Democrat who has encouraged violence at a political event, with the promise of paying for the legal defence of anyone arrested for engaging in that violence.
Name one Democrat who has actually campaigned on the idea of divisiveness, and has instilled an us versus them mindset in their supporters.
Name one Democrat who has led cries of lock em up when referring to their political opponents.
Name one Democrat who has physically assaulted a journalist and then name one Democratic president who ever praised someone for doing so.
Name one Democratic president who has taunted, insulted, and belittled our nations allies.
Name one Democratic president who has not only praised, but embraced our nations true enemies enemies responsible for violence against their own people, and threats against our country.
Name one Democratic president who has referred to his political opponents by demeaning nick-names, has repeatedly stated they have low IQs or went so far as to question their citizenship.
So lets stop the bullshit. There is no such thing as both sides do it, when one side is being continually encouraged to hate those who disagree with them, to hate those who look different than they do, to hate anyone and everyone who their pResident tells them to hate.
Ive heard it said all day that Trump isnt directly responsible for this act of violence against his political foes. Again, I call bullshit.
Every person who was targeted with a pipe-bomb today is someone who Trump has specifically pointed out as an enemy of himself and his followers. He has railed against them repeatedly, and has incited his supporters to see them as enemies as well.
Trump owns all of this. He owns the violence he has incited, and the hatred he has encouraged in order to fuel that violence. He owns every statement, every tweet, every rally cry that has demonized not only his fellow citizens, but the institutions that underpin our democracy such as our intelligence and law enforcement agencies, and a free press.
To hear Trump continually rant against his enemies and then absolve him of any responsibility for those supposed enemies being targeted for violence or even death is to be complicit in his hateful rhetoric. It is to turn a blind eye to everything he has said and done that has led up to this day. It is to ignore the obvious the constant encouragement to perceive political opponents as people deserving of violence and/or death.
I heard NY Governor Andrew Cuomo say today that there is anger on both sides and thats true. But there is only one side that is stoking that anger with lies, encouraging that anger with hateful rhetoric, and vilifying those they hope that anger will be directed at.
Any pretence that todays events are not a direct result of the shit Donald Trump has been stirring up is an insult to the intelligence of those who have heard the vitriol, and knew that the consequences were inevitable.
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)He owns this and so does the rwnj's on the radio, on the Internet as well.
2naSalit
(86,601 posts)sheshe2
(83,757 posts)Thanks.
You said what I have been thinking today. I am furious.
Cha
(297,210 posts)MF trump water carrying Idiots.. I've read the networks weren't even broadcasting his HateFestering "rallies" anymore. Rallies to drum up HATE.
There are NO "both sides".. trump is Absolutely Responsible for this MAGABOMBING SHITE.
This is NOT a "False Flag"!
Link to tweet
Thanks, Nance
pazzyanne
(6,552 posts)We now know who some of them are. More are out there.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)RainCaster
(10,872 posts)It would also help if the MSM would stop publicizing his every fuck-up. Don't give him the power to control the message. Put him in the news if:
1. He does something presidential
2. He is removed from the White House in chains
Otherwise, I'm tired of hearing about the Mango Molester and his family.
Talitha
(6,587 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)both-er-ism crap,nothing changes. This was a Gin up from the get go. By Friday Trump will be back to his name calling and Racist Rants and the Media will Parrot all his garbage. It sells Ads who are btw being paid for by Adelson-120 million +,Ricketts spending in the same range.
pazzyanne
(6,552 posts)Jane Austin
(9,199 posts)From your keyboard to the Universe.
Cha
(297,210 posts)maddiemom
(5,106 posts)He made a big deal of doing so with the first one; but since then...? Regardless, his salary is paltry in comparison with all the perks he sucks up and his "expenses:" incurred by jetting around continuously on Air Fore One to campaign, allegedly for other candidates. Truly, he has no more need for cash while he's in office than does Queen Elizabeth, despite her handbag.
world wide wally
(21,743 posts)he told them to do.
Gothmog
(145,225 posts)blue-wave
(4,352 posts)It is meant to gaslight us all. "It's not me, it's you. If only you would let me do what I want to do." This is the perpetrator saying "you made me do it because you said no."
No you fascist fucks. Never in my America. YOU are the criminals and the anti-American traitors. Never ever never. I hope America points a big middle finger to these asshats on election day.
Cha
(297,210 posts)blue-wave
(4,352 posts)Cha
(297,210 posts)Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)Sadly, many on the right are not very bright, or sophisticated, or worldly by any measure.
They don't understand how the World actually works.
They are the equivalent of cavemen, with rocks and spears, trying to exist in the 21st century.
This is very difficult for them to handle, so they act out like incorrigible children.
Trump is actually much smarter and well behaved than his fans on the "Lower Right".
blue-wave
(4,352 posts)I've personally witnessed some of this behavior and wished I never had. Then again, it has made me aware of the lunacy out there in our world. Of course, it's not saying much when you compare tRump's IQ to that of others and rate his higher. That's gotta be a new low for IQ.
NanceGreggs
(27,814 posts)
but you picked the wrong person on the wrong night to respond to with the theyre not very bright excuse.
The fact that Trump-humpers arent very bright is pretty fuckin obvious, dont you think?
Does their lack of being sophisticated or worldly excuse them from glomming onto a hate-spewing racist, and propagating that hatred with the fervour of crazed cultists?
Decent people dont cheer when their pResident praises someone who assaulted a journalist. Moral people dont laugh when their pResident tells them to go ahead and get violent, because hell cover their legal fees.
These people are not acting like incorrigible children theyre acting like the thugs Trump has encouraged them to be.
If by well-behaved you mean that Trump didnt send those pipe-bombs himself, Ill concede that. But he doesnt have to he just incites others to do his dirty work for him.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)I have long wondered how you pronounce your name. Is it Nance, as in Malcom Nance - or is it Nancy?
NanceGreggs
(27,814 posts)My given name is Nancy - but it got shortened to Nance by friends/family a long time ago.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)Cha
(297,210 posts)Hekate
(90,681 posts)I am glad every time I hear him speaking out.
Cha
(297,210 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,343 posts)Let's see if they have the guts and honesty to finally confess that bothsiderism is bullshit.
Bullshit belongs in the garden, not the news.
Cha
(297,210 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,343 posts)All those tv "discussion" shows that contort reality in order to contrive ragey debate (for ratings) should have to read the OP on the air.
Cha
(297,210 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I heard that by some guy on one of the MSNBC shows. There was a Democratic gal, thank goodness, also on the show who called bullshit on that pretty well. She didn't let him or Tweety compare the two sides as equal on the violence scale.
It's time we start digging in, speaking up and out, and firm on this crap. Because it's NOT TRUE.
dweller
(23,632 posts)with Vehemence !with Vitriol !
with Vigor !
yes, take Vigor with you to the polls...
✌🏼️
pazzyanne
(6,552 posts)Truth to power. It's the same old BS. Sit and take what is dished out or suffer the verbal consequences when you fight back with Republican lies and actions against others. Really getting old. RESIST!
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)He can refuse to accept any blame for what his words have led people to do.
But I have one thing to say to that. Don't worry, Spanky, because WE will be more than happy to assign blame and lay it at your feet.
He said he wanted unity in the country, but not a half an hour into his rally tonight, he was back to espousing violent rhetoric. He has lost any moral high ground in this discussion: his comments just come off as hypocrisy of the first order.
ffr
(22,669 posts)Oh look, it's Chuck Todd normalizing the rhetoric. And Sarah Palin went on her merry way without so much as a sorry.
Gabrielle Giffords clings to life with the support of her husband and loved ones.
Puzzler
(2,505 posts)-Puzzler
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I am so sick of their shit!
Rhiannon12866
(205,320 posts)Anyone who doesn't tie this right back to Trump's inciting rhetoric just hasn't been paying attention!
oasis
(49,383 posts)WinstonSmith4740
(3,056 posts)Do you mind if I post it up over on Facebook? I have some friends and relatives who need to get their heads out of their asses.
pandr32
(11,582 posts)Nance does such a great job of making the points we need to spread far and wide.
niyad
(113,302 posts)the others who spewed the "both sides" bs.
spanone
(135,831 posts)Ohio Barbarian
(43 posts)That's fine by me. I love great rants.
yonder
(9,665 posts)K&R, bookmarked as well
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....about "anger on the right", they say "well, there was that shooting of Steve Scalise!", like that's even close to trying to assassinate two Presidents, a Vice President, an Attorney General, etc. I wish I were there, I'd bring up Gabby Giffords.
JCMach1
(27,558 posts)say it loud!
thekestrelseye
(8 posts)gademocrat7
(10,657 posts)He is a dangerous, egotistical, liar who denigrates the office he holds.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Thank you for saying so eloquently what many of us have thought.
Poiuyt
(18,123 posts)betsuni
(25,519 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)using the correct name
It is the DemocratIC Party.
Cha
(297,210 posts)SayItLoud
(1,702 posts)#basta