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Wed Oct 24, 2018, 11:07 PM

Bullshit!!!

I’ve been hearing the bullshit all day – the “Trump isn’t responsible” bullshit, the “both sides do it” bullshit, the “let’s not point fingers” bullshit – and it’s time to shut it down.

To those spewing the “both sides are to blame” bullshit, I pose the following:

Name one Democrat who has called Mexicans rapists and drug-dealers, who has labelled people of colour as coming from “shithole countries”, or has tried to ban Muslims from entering the country because they’re terrorists.

Name one Democrat who has called KKK members and white supremacists “very fine people”.

Name one Democrat who has encouraged violence at a political event, with the promise of paying for the legal defence of anyone arrested for engaging in that violence.

Name one Democrat who has actually campaigned on the idea of divisiveness, and has instilled an us versus them mindset in their supporters.

Name one Democrat who has led cries of “lock ‘em up” when referring to their political opponents.

Name one Democrat who has physically assaulted a journalist – and then name one Democratic president who ever praised someone for doing so.

Name one Democratic president who has taunted, insulted, and belittled our nation’s allies.

Name one Democratic president who has not only praised, but embraced our nation’s true enemies – enemies responsible for violence against their own people, and threats against our country.

Name one Democratic president who has referred to his political opponents by demeaning nick-names, has repeatedly stated they have “low IQs” – or went so far as to question their citizenship.

So let’s stop the bullshit. There is no such thing as “both sides do it”, when one side is being continually encouraged to hate those who disagree with them, to hate those who look different than they do, to hate anyone and everyone who their “pResident” tells them to hate.

I’ve heard it said all day that Trump isn’t directly responsible for this act of violence against his political foes. Again, I call bullshit.

Every person who was targeted with a pipe-bomb today is someone who Trump has specifically pointed out as an “enemy” of himself and his followers. He has railed against them repeatedly, and has incited his supporters to see them as enemies as well.

Trump owns all of this. He owns the violence he has incited, and the hatred he has encouraged in order to fuel that violence. He owns every statement, every tweet, every rally cry that has demonized not only his fellow citizens, but the institutions that underpin our democracy – such as our intelligence and law enforcement agencies, and a free press.

To hear Trump continually rant against his “enemies” and then absolve him of any responsibility for those supposed enemies being targeted for violence – or even death – is to be complicit in his hateful rhetoric. It is to turn a blind eye to everything he has said and done that has led up to this day. It is to ignore the obvious – the constant encouragement to perceive political opponents as people deserving of violence and/or death.

I heard NY Governor Andrew Cuomo say today that there is “anger on both sides” – and that’s true. But there is only one side that is stoking that anger with lies, encouraging that anger with hateful rhetoric, and vilifying those they hope that anger will be directed at.

Any pretence that today’s events are not a direct result of the shit Donald Trump has been stirring up is an insult to the intelligence of those who have heard the vitriol, and knew that the consequences were inevitable.

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NanceGreggs Oct 2018 OP
vercetti2021 Oct 2018 #1
2naSalit Oct 2018 #2
sheshe2 Oct 2018 #3
Cha Oct 2018 #4
pazzyanne Oct 2018 #25
Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2018 #43
RainCaster Oct 2018 #5
Talitha Oct 2018 #56
Wellstone ruled Oct 2018 #6
pazzyanne Oct 2018 #27
Jane Austin Oct 2018 #7
Cha Oct 2018 #8
maddiemom Oct 2018 #45
world wide wally Oct 2018 #9
Gothmog Oct 2018 #10
blue-wave Oct 2018 #11
Cha Oct 2018 #15
blue-wave Oct 2018 #16
Cha Oct 2018 #19
Progressive Jones Oct 2018 #12
blue-wave Oct 2018 #13
NanceGreggs Oct 2018 #29
stopbush Oct 2018 #32
NanceGreggs Oct 2018 #36
stopbush Oct 2018 #37
Cha Oct 2018 #14
Hekate Oct 2018 #30
Cha Oct 2018 #34
Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2018 #17
Cha Oct 2018 #20
Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2018 #21
Cha Oct 2018 #22
Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #18
dweller Oct 2018 #23
pazzyanne Oct 2018 #24
Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2018 #26
ffr Oct 2018 #28
Puzzler Oct 2018 #31
smirkymonkey Oct 2018 #33
Rhiannon12866 Oct 2018 #35
oasis Oct 2018 #38
WinstonSmith4740 Oct 2018 #39
pandr32 Oct 2018 #41
niyad Oct 2018 #40
spanone Oct 2018 #42
Ohio Barbarian Oct 2018 #44
yonder Oct 2018 #46
BSdetect Oct 2018 #47
George II Oct 2018 #48
JCMach1 Oct 2018 #49
thekestrelseye Oct 2018 #50
gademocrat7 Oct 2018 #51
NastyRiffraff Oct 2018 #52
Poiuyt Oct 2018 #53
betsuni Oct 2018 #54
Scurrilous Oct 2018 #55
xxqqqzme Oct 2018 #57
Cha Oct 2018 #58
SayItLoud Oct 2018 #59
BSdetect Oct 2018 #60

Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2018, 11:11 PM

1. Fuckin A right

He owns this and so does the rwnj's on the radio, on the Internet as well.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2018, 11:15 PM

2. K&R

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2018, 11:24 PM

3. I was waiting for you to weigh in.

Thanks.

You said what I have been thinking today. I am furious.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2018, 11:28 PM

4. The US Media****** are Shameless Gutless

GREEDY TRAITOROUS ASSHOLES.

MF trump water carrying Idiots.. I've read the networks weren't even broadcasting his HateFestering "rallies" anymore. Rallies to drum up HATE.

There are NO "both sides".. trump is Absolutely Responsible for this MAGABOMBING SHITE.

This is NOT a "False Flag"!


Thanks, Nance

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Response to Cha (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 12:41 AM

25. Thanks for the tRump Hall of infamy list!

We now know who some of them are. More are out there.

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Response to Cha (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 02:08 PM

43. The left doesn't need to hoax: 71 % RW Extremists, 26 % Islamic Extremists, 3 % LW Extremists




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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2018, 11:28 PM

5. The Cure is to Vote!

It would also help if the MSM would stop publicizing his every fuck-up. Don't give him the power to control the message. Put him in the news if:
1. He does something presidential
2. He is removed from the White House in chains

Otherwise, I'm tired of hearing about the Mango Molester and his family.

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Response to RainCaster (Reply #5)

Fri Oct 26, 2018, 02:20 AM

56. YES, THIS...

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2018, 11:30 PM

6. Until the Friggin Media stops with the

both-er-ism crap,nothing changes. This was a Gin up from the get go. By Friday Trump will be back to his name calling and Racist Rants and the Media will Parrot all his garbage. It sells Ads who are btw being paid for by Adelson-120 million +,Ricketts spending in the same range.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 12:43 AM

27. K & R and a thank you.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2018, 11:30 PM

7. Bravo, Nance!

From your keyboard to the Universe.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2018, 11:30 PM

8. P.S. Hours after the attempted assasination of Hillary Clinton, we're back to this.

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Response to Cha (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 04:43 PM

45. Is Trump still verfiably giving his paychecks up?

He made a big deal of doing so with the first one; but since then...? Regardless, his salary is paltry in comparison with all the perks he sucks up and his "expenses:" incurred by jetting around continuously on Air Fore One to campaign, allegedly for other candidates. Truly, he has no more need for cash while he's in office than does Queen Elizabeth, despite her handbag.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2018, 11:35 PM

9. Trump would be the very first person to brag about how his supporters would do anything

he told them to do.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2018, 11:36 PM

10. K&R

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2018, 11:37 PM

11. It's not just an insult

It is meant to gaslight us all. "It's not me, it's you. If only you would let me do what I want to do." This is the perpetrator saying "you made me do it because you said no."

No you fascist fucks. Never in my America. YOU are the criminals and the anti-American traitors. Never ever never. I hope America points a big middle finger to these asshats on election day.

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Response to blue-wave (Reply #11)

Wed Oct 24, 2018, 11:51 PM

15. Yes, it's meant to "Gaslight us".. Excellent point, blue-wave!

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Response to Cha (Reply #15)

Wed Oct 24, 2018, 11:56 PM

16. Thanks Cha! Mahalo nui loa!!

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Response to blue-wave (Reply #16)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 12:14 AM

19. A'ole pilikia, blue wave!

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2018, 11:38 PM

12. This kind of right wing scumbag behavior started long before Trump.

Sadly, many on the right are not very bright, or sophisticated, or worldly by any measure.
They don't understand how the World actually works.
They are the equivalent of cavemen, with rocks and spears, trying to exist in the 21st century.
This is very difficult for them to handle, so they act out like incorrigible children.
Trump is actually much smarter and well behaved than his fans on the "Lower Right".

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Response to Progressive Jones (Reply #12)

Wed Oct 24, 2018, 11:47 PM

13. That's a really sad but true statement

"Trump is actually much smarter and well behaved than his fans on the "Lower Right"."

I've personally witnessed some of this behavior and wished I never had. Then again, it has made me aware of the lunacy out there in our world. Of course, it's not saying much when you compare tRump's IQ to that of others and rate his higher. That's gotta be a new low for IQ.

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Response to Progressive Jones (Reply #12)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 01:15 AM

29. Nothing personal, PJ ...

… but you picked the wrong person on the wrong night to respond to with the “they’re not very bright” excuse.

The fact that Trump-humpers aren’t very bright is pretty fuckin’ obvious, don’t you think?

Does their lack of being “sophisticated or worldly” excuse them from glomming onto a hate-spewing racist, and propagating that hatred with the fervour of crazed cultists?

Decent people don’t cheer when their “pResident” praises someone who assaulted a journalist. Moral people don’t laugh when their “pResident” tells them to go ahead and get violent, because he’ll cover their legal fees.

These people are not acting like “incorrigible children” – they’re acting like the thugs Trump has encouraged them to be.

If by “well-behaved” you mean that Trump didn’t send those pipe-bombs himself, I’ll concede that. But he doesn’t have to – he just incites others to do his dirty work for him.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #29)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 01:36 AM

32. Unrelated question.

I have long wondered how you pronounce your name. Is it Nance, as in Malcom Nance - or is it Nancy?

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Response to stopbush (Reply #32)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 03:06 AM

36. As in Malcolm Nance.

My given name is Nancy - but it got shortened to Nance by friends/family a long time ago.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #36)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 04:04 AM

37. Thanks. That's been bugging me for years. Never thought to just come out and ask you.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2018, 11:50 PM

14. At Least Steve Schmidt is Saying IT..

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Response to Cha (Reply #14)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 01:17 AM

30. I know Steve Schmidt for a lover of the Constitution and a fellow patriot...

I am glad every time I hear him speaking out.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #30)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 02:09 AM

34. So Grateful he has a megaphone, Hekate!

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 12:11 AM

17. email this to every news outlet in the world

Let's see if they have the guts and honesty to finally confess that bothsiderism is bullshit.

Bullshit belongs in the garden, not the news.

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #17)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 12:16 AM

20. I know! I was thinking when I first read it

that it should be required reading for the US media***** outlets!

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Response to Cha (Reply #20)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 12:25 AM

21. all those contrived rage-fests, too

All those tv "discussion" shows that contort reality in order to contrive ragey debate (for ratings) should have to read the OP on the air.

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #21)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 12:26 AM

22. +1!

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 12:12 AM

18. I agree! I call bullshit, too!

I heard that by some guy on one of the MSNBC shows. There was a Democratic gal, thank goodness, also on the show who called bullshit on that pretty well. She didn't let him or Tweety compare the two sides as equal on the violence scale.

It's time we start digging in, speaking up and out, and firm on this crap. Because it's NOT TRUE.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 12:38 AM

23. so Vote !

with Vehemence !with Vitriol !

with Vigor !

yes, take Vigor with you to the polls...

✌🏼️

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 12:39 AM

24. Truth to power, NancyGreggs!

Truth to power. It's the same old BS. Sit and take what is dished out or suffer the verbal consequences when you fight back with Republican lies and actions against others. Really getting old. RESIST!

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 12:42 AM

26. Trmp can disavow the actions of his followers

He can refuse to accept any blame for what his words have led people to do.
But I have one thing to say to that. Don't worry, Spanky, because WE will be more than happy to assign blame and lay it at your feet.

He said he wanted unity in the country, but not a half an hour into his rally tonight, he was back to espousing violent rhetoric. He has lost any moral high ground in this discussion: his comments just come off as hypocrisy of the first order.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 01:15 AM

28. This bullshit got Gabby Giffords shot in the head and six others killed.



Oh look, it's Chuck Todd normalizing the rhetoric. And Sarah Palin went on her merry way without so much as a sorry.



Gabrielle Giffords clings to life with the support of her husband and loved ones.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 01:24 AM

31. K&R

-Puzzler

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 01:38 AM

33. Hear, Hear!

I am so sick of their shit!

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 02:09 AM

35. K&R! Very well said!

Anyone who doesn't tie this right back to Trump's inciting rhetoric just hasn't been paying attention!

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 05:38 AM

38. K and R

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 11:13 AM

39. Awesome as usual, Nance!

Do you mind if I post it up over on Facebook? I have some friends and relatives who need to get their heads out of their asses.

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Response to WinstonSmith4740 (Reply #39)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 12:00 PM

41. I was wondering as well

Nance does such a great job of making the points we need to spread far and wide.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 11:57 AM

40. FURIOUS k and r--I spent part of yesterday trying NOT to throw things at andrea and

the others who spewed the "both sides" bs.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 12:00 PM

42. K&R...

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 04:34 PM

44. Great rant. You seem to be pretty good at them.

 

That's fine by me. I love great rants.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 05:00 PM

46. Thank you, Nance! One of your best and at the very right time

K&R, bookmarked as well

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 06:24 PM

47. kick

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 06:38 PM

48. What really bothers me is that for the last two days, EVERY time a republican was asked....

....about "anger on the right", they say "well, there was that shooting of Steve Scalise!", like that's even close to trying to assassinate two Presidents, a Vice President, an Attorney General, etc. I wish I were there, I'd bring up Gabby Giffords.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 06:58 PM

49. There are NO TWO SIDES in attempted murder

say it loud!

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 09:12 PM

50. Excellent. You nailed it.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 09:18 PM

51. Spot on, NanceGreggs!

He is a dangerous, egotistical, liar who denigrates the office he holds.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 10:30 PM

52. Bravo!

Thank you for saying so eloquently what many of us have thought.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 10:46 PM

53. Great post, as always!

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 10:51 PM

54. K&R

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2018, 10:57 PM

55. K&R

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2018, 04:21 AM

57. They can begin by

using the correct name

It is the DemocratIC Party.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2018, 05:05 AM

58. Kick for "Bullshit!!!" Thanks, Nance!

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2018, 06:43 AM

59. It's the being polite to the guy who punches you in the face.

#basta

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2018, 07:54 AM

60. k&r

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