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(82,849 posts)
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 04:01 PM Oct 2018

Trump to Travel to Synagogue Shooting Site on Tuesday

After being told specifically that he wouldn't be welcome, Needy Amin decides to go review his latest handiwork in person:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-to-travel-to-synagogue-shooting-site-on-tuesday/ar-BBP4IhP?li=BBnb7Kz

President Donald Trump on Tuesday will travel to Pittsburgh to visit with family members of the victims of a Saturday shooting at a synagogue that left 11 dead.

. . .

Trump will travel to the southwest Pennsylvania city over the objections of Jewish leaders, who said Sunday he is not welcome due to his sharp rhetoric, which they and other critics say spawns racial and religious emotions that can lead to violence.


I hope the synagogue closes and locks its doors against him.
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Trump to Travel to Synagogue Shooting Site on Tuesday (Original Post) gratuitous Oct 2018 OP
Such a bastard ... such ... a ... bastard uponit7771 Oct 2018 #1
Agree with your last sentence!! Caliman73 Oct 2018 #2
He is just looking for a photo op SallyHemmings Oct 2018 #3
What member of the Synagogue would meet with him? AJT Oct 2018 #15
A Photo Op to reinforce his advocacy to White nationalism. aeromanKC Oct 2018 #23
They should close up, turn off all the lights, lock all the doors, and hold a press conference in RockRaven Oct 2018 #4
Nice! Or, Pull a One-Two Punch Grokenstein Oct 2018 #46
the first funerals will be tomorrow...... getagrip_already Oct 2018 #5
Wouldn't put it past him. EVERYTHING is about him and he just wants SammyWinstonJack Oct 2018 #22
didn't ivanka crash mccain's funeral? getagrip_already Oct 2018 #26
Ivanka and Jared -- I heard it was Lindsay Graham who got them in. nt Hekate Oct 2018 #29
hmm, I heard they just showed up... getagrip_already Oct 2018 #38
No, it was Lindsey Graham who reached out to Cindy McCain... SMC22307 Oct 2018 #60
He crashes weddings and meetings whenever he wants pandr32 Oct 2018 #33
Just like the family members saidsimplesimon Oct 2018 #6
Doesn't he understand that he is not wanted? smirkymonkey Oct 2018 #7
When They Told Him He Wasn't Welcome Grokenstein Oct 2018 #47
Precisely. Chellee Oct 2018 #61
They should all say they're Busy VOTING! Cigar11 Oct 2018 #8
Boo and shout him down watch his nasty side come out. Power 2 the People Oct 2018 #9
I hope someone spits in his face Johnny2X2X Oct 2018 #10
No Nazis or Nationalists Allowed Blue Owl Oct 2018 #11
He's deaf, despicable, and morally bankrupt. Totally Tunsie Oct 2018 #12
No, they won't close their doors to him because that's not what we do...no matter what. CincyDem Oct 2018 #13
I'm quite sure you are correct Docreed2003 Oct 2018 #53
This is Gump's way of sticking it to those mean Jewish leaders who John Fante Oct 2018 #14
"I'm a citizen. He's my president. He is certainly welcome," Myers said. oberliner Oct 2018 #16
Where do you stand on this? marble falls Oct 2018 #17
I have mixed feelings oberliner Oct 2018 #18
I am not torn. He is a despicable piece of shit and he should not go. hostalover Oct 2018 #20
Well said. marble falls Oct 2018 #32
I can definitely understand that position oberliner Oct 2018 #57
If I was a TOL member, I'd call for an emergency meeting designed to fire Rabbi Myers for that Pity Puddles Oct 2018 #27
Religious leaders are trained to forgive DeminPennswoods Oct 2018 #36
I think that would be trespassing. bluescribbler Oct 2018 #19
He'll jack up the traffic on election day as well as refusing to sinkingfeeling Oct 2018 #21
disgraceful cab67 Oct 2018 #24
He was told to fuck off by the Pittsburgh Jewish community. Pity Puddles Oct 2018 #25
It is the Trump version of a "Victory Mosque"... Moostache Oct 2018 #28
So, here's the thing. He revels in pissing in people's decency. libdem4life Oct 2018 #30
Anyone concerned about having Muslim community groups trying to protect the synagog? erronis Oct 2018 #31
I'm sure he will be met by a large contingent of protestors The Liberal Lion Oct 2018 #34
I'd carry a sign gratuitous Oct 2018 #41
Could we get the "baby donnie" balloon there to greet him? Fritz Walter Oct 2018 #35
That would not be appropriate right now DeminPennswoods Oct 2018 #39
Let's not forget the many murders and serious injuries. no jokes. Lucky Luciano Oct 2018 #56
You do realize that this will stir the shit to overflowing? ProudLib72 Oct 2018 #37
I think the congregation should stay away TNNurse Oct 2018 #40
I would refuse his entry demtenjeep Oct 2018 #42
Fascist bdamomma Oct 2018 #64
What a despicable, evil man NastyRiffraff Oct 2018 #43
Couldn't he just waited until after the funerals? FloridaBlues Oct 2018 #44
He needs this for the midterm bounce it will provide him with NewsCenter28 Oct 2018 #52
It's going to bounce in the opposite direction. smirkymonkey Oct 2018 #54
Another photo op for the clown liberal N proud Oct 2018 #45
for what????? bdamomma Oct 2018 #48
photo op for his fucked up base. Start more Cha Oct 2018 #58
Agree, they should lock up the synagogue. They asked trump to iluvtennis Oct 2018 #49
I hope nobody else shows up at all. n/t TygrBright Oct 2018 #50
It's not Tuesday yet. Maybe something will happen to keep him away. He'll make the already Cousin Dupree Oct 2018 #51
Don't worry - most Jews are Dems TwistOneUp Oct 2018 #55
These are the stipulations trump was given if Cha Oct 2018 #59
This could get bad jmowreader Oct 2018 #62
Pittsburgh doesn't want him bdamomma Oct 2018 #63
But wouldn't wearing the drexelkathy Oct 2018 #65
Sorry folks. The Rabbi invited him. Odoreida Oct 2018 #66

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
2. Agree with your last sentence!!
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 04:07 PM
Oct 2018

When I saw the title of the post that was my first thought. They should close it up and let him stand outside, but you had written it as part of the post.

Completely agree. I would. I don't care if he is the president, pope, or king of the world. That asshole is at very least partly responsible for these idiots terrorizing fellow Americans. He shouldn't be allowed to foul the site any more than his followers already have.

RockRaven

(19,308 posts)
4. They should close up, turn off all the lights, lock all the doors, and hold a press conference in
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 04:09 PM
Oct 2018

an entirely different part of town while Trump is scheduled to be there. Make it as explicit as possible that they are avoiding meeting with him.

Grokenstein

(6,354 posts)
46. Nice! Or, Pull a One-Two Punch
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 06:34 PM
Oct 2018

Press conference elsewhere, PLUS a small delegation stays behind to "receive" theDotard and his entourage with large placards of his most embarrassing photos--the assorted bad hair days, the toilet paper stuck to the shoe, the "umbrellas, how do they work" moment, the various confused grimaces.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
5. the first funerals will be tomorrow......
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 04:09 PM
Oct 2018

That means services will be ongoing.

Who is he going to meet with?

Is he going to crash a funeral or service?

SammyWinstonJack

(44,316 posts)
22. Wouldn't put it past him. EVERYTHING is about him and he just wants
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 05:58 PM
Oct 2018

a photo op to brag about meeting with family etc proof they don't blame him. He's disgusting.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
60. No, it was Lindsey Graham who reached out to Cindy McCain...
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 09:00 PM
Oct 2018

allowing Sweatshop Barbie and her mute handbag of a husband to attend.

pandr32

(14,244 posts)
33. He crashes weddings and meetings whenever he wants
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 06:15 PM
Oct 2018

...so crashing a funeral seems likely.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
6. Just like the family members
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 04:10 PM
Oct 2018

who showed up at McCain's funeral. I'm sure Sarah Huckster will spin this as many people invited him to come. The man baby has not a single moral value guiding his behaviour.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
7. Doesn't he understand that he is not wanted?
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 04:13 PM
Oct 2018

He is such a self-centered narcissist that he can't even think of the victims and the families of the victims and what THEY desire. It's all about him and what he needs to feed his pathetic little ego. God, I hate him with a raging passion. What a disgusting POS!

Grokenstein

(6,354 posts)
47. When They Told Him He Wasn't Welcome
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 06:36 PM
Oct 2018

...that's when he HAD to go. Nobody tells HIM what to do! He's gonna show THEM! He's president and they're not! Two scoops me! One scoop everyone else!

Cigar11

(549 posts)
8. They should all say they're Busy VOTING!
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 04:14 PM
Oct 2018

WTF ... is he expecting a crowd of supporters?

No one wan't to see him.

Johnny2X2X

(24,178 posts)
10. I hope someone spits in his face
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 04:18 PM
Oct 2018

He is directly responsible for the propaganda that caused these deaths.

CincyDem

(7,391 posts)
13. No, they won't close their doors to him because that's not what we do...no matter what.
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 04:31 PM
Oct 2018


He will be welcomed. He will not get to pack the sanctuary with deplorables and a stand up group of sycophants behind him. I suspect they won't allow cameras. I suspect he will not be given a pulpit to spew from.

He will probably hear things from the members that he doesn't like. They won't hold back. He'll nod his head, say something utterly incomprehensible. Then he'll leave as clueless about the world as he entered.

And the congregants who meet with him will learn that the vain, void, vengeful person they see on TV is exactly who he is.

They may again ask respectfully that he keep his distance but if he shows up at the front door, I suspect he'll be welcomed even in through this pain.

Docreed2003

(18,714 posts)
53. I'm quite sure you are correct
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 07:09 PM
Oct 2018

While I might personally be outraged that Trump would do this, i am sure that he will welcomed. He will be welcomed because that is the core of their beliefs, not because of the person. He will be welcomed in spite of his complicity. At least that is what I anticipate, having encountered the love and hospitality of many Jewish families in my life. Most are much better people than I could ever hope to be...I have no doubt they will represent the best of their faith traditions. In some ways, it makes me ashamed to think that I don't know that I would have the strength to do likewise.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
14. This is Gump's way of sticking it to those mean Jewish leaders who
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 04:36 PM
Oct 2018

told him he wasn't welcome.

More red meat for the Despicables.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
16. "I'm a citizen. He's my president. He is certainly welcome," Myers said.
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 04:55 PM
Oct 2018
A current and former leader of Tree of Life Synagogue split on Monday on welcoming President Donald Trump Pittsburgh in the wake of this weekend's deadly shooting.

Rabbi Jeffrey Myers, who was leading services at the Tree of Life Synagogue during Saturday's shooting, told CNN's "New Day" Monday morning that, "the President of the United States is always welcome."

"I'm a citizen. He's my president. He is certainly welcome," Myers said.

A former president of the synagogue, however, says Trump is not "welcome" in Pittsburgh following the shooting which was the deadliest anti-Semitic incident in US history that left 11 dead.

https://www.wral.com/synagogue-officials-split-on-potential-trump-visit-to-pittsburgh/17953811/
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
18. I have mixed feelings
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 05:25 PM
Oct 2018

On the one hand, I think he should go and listen to what the community there has to say. On the other hand, his rhetoric is vile (along with everything else about him) and I completely understand why people would not want him there. But there is still some gravitas about the office itself (extremely tarnished though it may be), and I think if the rabbi from the synagogue is saying he would welcome the visit, then that counts for something. Though I recognize that others in the community are opposed. So I guess I would say I am torn.

 

Pity Puddles

(98 posts)
27. If I was a TOL member, I'd call for an emergency meeting designed to fire Rabbi Myers for that
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 06:10 PM
Oct 2018

comment and find someone a lot more progressive than this idiotic rabbi.

It's of my own opinion, and I stand by it. Let the Judas rabbi forget about the Holocaust, and invite the MAGAHitler in.

DeminPennswoods

(17,481 posts)
36. Religious leaders are trained to forgive
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 06:17 PM
Oct 2018

I suppose that and Jewish tradition is where Rabbi Myers is coming from.

sinkingfeeling

(57,798 posts)
21. He'll jack up the traffic on election day as well as refusing to
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 05:54 PM
Oct 2018

abide by the wishes of Pittsburgh.

cab67

(3,738 posts)
24. disgraceful
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 06:05 PM
Oct 2018

I'm a goy raising a Jewish daughter. It sticks in my craw when I say that the president of the USA should not besmirch a house of worship - any kind of honest worship - with his presence.

 

Pity Puddles

(98 posts)
25. He was told to fuck off by the Pittsburgh Jewish community.
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 06:07 PM
Oct 2018

Therefore, he should be denied any landing clearance in the state of Pennsylvania.

Moostache

(11,171 posts)
28. It is the Trump version of a "Victory Mosque"...
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 06:11 PM
Oct 2018

He shows up where he is not welcome and is in fact hurtful as a long, loud dog whistle to his Nazi supporters and fans...

He is totally disinterested in healing the grief of the community...in his mind, and from his own mouth, he feels they got what was coming to them for not living under constant armed vigilance and trigger-finger alert levels...maybe Air Force One will crash on the way.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
30. So, here's the thing. He revels in pissing in people's decency.
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 06:14 PM
Oct 2018

His own administration can't "Make" him use a secure phone as he broadcasts to our enemies. Who in the current "Registered" Democratic Party will he NOT be able to chew up and spit out?

He is a petulant toddler with the nuclear codes.

erronis

(23,819 posts)
31. Anyone concerned about having Muslim community groups trying to protect the synagog?
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 06:14 PM
Oct 2018

Dump's white-wing goons (some paid, some volunteer) will be too happy to cause a ruckus and the blame will be on anyone who isn't a WASP.

Fritz Walter

(4,370 posts)
35. Could we get the "baby donnie" balloon there to greet him?
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 06:15 PM
Oct 2018

I’d gladly pay big bucks to a Go Fund Me project that would place that blimp in front of the other blimp (cadet bone spurs).
Just to get the message across.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
37. You do realize that this will stir the shit to overflowing?
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 06:17 PM
Oct 2018

If he is welcomed, there will be outrage that he went against an entire community's wishes. If he is shunned, there will be outrage with more violence against Jews from the right.

He just couldn't leave it alone. Nope, not this asshole!

TNNurse

(7,537 posts)
40. I think the congregation should stay away
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 06:21 PM
Oct 2018

and he could be met by those nice folks in the Muslim community who offered to help.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
43. What a despicable, evil man
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 06:24 PM
Oct 2018

He has to know that he's not welcome; they've SAID it. He's going anyway, because he's prezdint and he can, dammit. No Jew is going to tell HIM what to do.

I hate him so much.

FloridaBlues

(4,664 posts)
44. Couldn't he just waited until after the funerals?
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 06:29 PM
Oct 2018

I would think the Synagogue is closed because it's a crime scene right now but I could be wrong.
Trump just has to be in limelight. What a complete idiot.

NewsCenter28

(1,837 posts)
52. He needs this for the midterm bounce it will provide him with
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 07:05 PM
Oct 2018

Tomorrow will be a day of him being healer-in-chief, unifier, and Presidential, sadly, despite all of us knowing here that it’s an act.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
54. It's going to bounce in the opposite direction.
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 07:15 PM
Oct 2018

His base will hate him for pandering to the Jews, everyone else will hate him for showing up at a solemn occasion where he was explicitly told not to attend. His lack of respect is obscene. He is so stupid, he doesn't even see what a bad move this is politically, let alone how morally despicable it is.

bdamomma

(69,527 posts)
48. for what?????
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 06:42 PM
Oct 2018

Donald only cares for Donald,

Divide and conquer and throw in fear. I hate this fucking man.

Cha

(318,900 posts)
58. photo op for his fucked up base. Start more
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 08:55 PM
Oct 2018

trouble for his fucked up base. Ask if anybody thinks this is his fault for his fucked up base.

iluvtennis

(21,496 posts)
49. Agree, they should lock up the synagogue. They asked trump to
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 06:49 PM
Oct 2018

Explicitly denounce nationalism. He hasn’t done that, so he’s not welcome.
What a leech he is

Cousin Dupree

(1,866 posts)
51. It's not Tuesday yet. Maybe something will happen to keep him away. He'll make the already
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 07:04 PM
Oct 2018

incomprehensible worse.

TwistOneUp

(1,020 posts)
55. Don't worry - most Jews are Dems
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 07:18 PM
Oct 2018

And there's a reason why *many* of us are Dems. We've suffered at the hands of theocrats, and we all know that's what republicans are.

Cha

(318,900 posts)
59. These are the stipulations trump was given if
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 08:59 PM
Oct 2018

he wanted to be welcomed..

The following sentences in the letter were boldfaced:

President Trump, you are not welcome in Pittsburgh until you fully denounce white nationalism.

President Trump, you are not welcome in Pittsburgh until you stop targeting and endangering all minorities.

President Trump, you are not welcome in Pittsburgh until you cease your assault on immigrants and refugees.

President Trump, you are not welcome in Pittsburgh until you commit yourself to compassionate, democratic policies that recognize the dignity of all of us.

https://www.bendthearc.us/open_letter_to_president_trump

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11336151

jmowreader

(53,168 posts)
62. This could get bad
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 09:06 PM
Oct 2018

There's no way in hell Trump's handlers should allow him anywhere near the services. This is his fault, and his presence at the service would disrupt everything - and only slightly because the bastard would somehow manage to make the services all about him.

Besides...isn't there a Jewish law that forbids non-Jewish people from attending a funeral service? It's probably one everyone ignores because most people have friends of a different religion, but they should follow it now.

bdamomma

(69,527 posts)
63. Pittsburgh doesn't want him
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 09:20 PM
Oct 2018

there due to funerals of the victims and lack of security for a visit, I hope he cowards out and he shouldn't go out of respect for the families. But he is a vengeful jerk, what an asshole he is.

 

Odoreida

(1,549 posts)
66. Sorry folks. The Rabbi invited him.
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 09:06 AM
Oct 2018

And "Jewish leaders" are just rich guys with media access.

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