Anybody else see this idiot FB image (pro-drug testing "for welfare")

[K8-EEE]

Ugh!!! People are so fucking ignorant. Another big waste of money from the "low taxes" crowd and I picture the drug testing companies putting this shit out there so they can bid on making a fortune on unnecessary screenings.

[WCGreen]

1. for one thing, a lot of the drug that are taken legally give off false results.

[Serve The Servants]

2. I honestly could give a shit either way.

I tend to fall into the "If I have to pass a drug test to get a job... blah, blah blah" category, but since I support a complete end to the drug war and full legalization of ALL commonly used narcotics this would become a non-issue anyways.

[Care Acutely]

3. ages ago . . .

MY RESPONSE: 10:1 most of those states quit doing it within a couple of years because testing all of those people is going to be way, way more expensive than anything saved by withholding a few benefits. It might not be unconstitutional, but it will waste more money than it saves.

HER REPLY: I would be more inclined to pay a little more in taxes on that, then half the crap we get taxed on now. For one it would maybe keep pple clean, then we could save on paying for prisoners, children would be hopefully safer
And the addicts could get the help they need.

MY 2ND REPLY: Well that's different then. That would be mandatory testing to get people help they need instead of mandatory testing for vengeance' sake. Getting people help and saving money on jail, etc., that's a good goal.

HER REPLY: ............*crickets*

[rfranklin]

4. Proven in FL to be a monumental waste of money

No Savings Are Found From Welfare Drug Tests

By LIZETTE ALVAREZ

Published: April 17, 2012

MIAMI — Ushered in amid promises that it would save taxpayers money and deter drug users, a Florida law requiring drug tests for people who seek welfare benefits resulted in no direct savings, snared few drug users and had no effect on the number of applications, according to recently released state data...

....Because the Florida law requires that applicants who pass the test be reimbursed for the cost, an average of $30, the cost to the state was $118,140. This is more than would have been paid out in benefits to the people who failed the test, Mr. Newton said.

As a result, the testing cost the government an extra $45,780, he said

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/18/us/no-savings-found-in-florida-welfare-drug-tests.html

[K8-EEE]

5. Thank you rfranklin I am going to post this on their fb page

[Tom Ripley]

6. Brought to you by the parasitic drug testing industry

[K8-EEE]

7. And "small government" vaginal probe type Republicans who

hate government except when it is doing unnecessary things to line their pockets or control other people

[surrealAmerican]

8. A big part of the problem here ...

... is that we allow drug testing by employers, even in cases where there is no potential threat to public safety.

[gollygee]

9. I can't see making kids go homeless because their parents

smoke marijuana occasionally. And that's the drug they'll find the most. I worked in a place where we had to test for drugs due to our insurance company, and we only ever found marijuana in anyone's system. You don't have to take it very often for it to show up in your system because it stays in the blood stream for ages.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

10. It saved Florida a grand total of negative $200,000!

Yes, that's right. It actually cost the state more to administer the tests than saving any money on "disqualified" recipients.