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I want to DO something about the Anti-Semitic attacks. (Original Post) TomSlick Nov 2018 OP
The best thing you can do, is learn about anti-Semitism. Behind the Aegis Nov 2018 #1
Thanks. TomSlick Nov 2018 #7
I'm having difficulty with something. qwlauren35 Nov 2018 #25
Well, I went to Shabbat at a friend's synagogue tonight. nolabear Nov 2018 #2
That occurred to me. TomSlick Nov 2018 #8
Same here MurrayDelph Nov 2018 #13
Almost exactly my situation. TomSlick Nov 2018 #16
Try and catch the first leftynyc Nov 2018 #3
I never miss Maher. TomSlick Nov 2018 #9
I can't think of a time leftynyc Nov 2018 #12
It's recorded. I look forward to it. TomSlick Nov 2018 #15
I watched it. qwlauren35 Nov 2018 #19
I can only tell you leftynyc Nov 2018 #22
Listen, read, visit - look for community programs in your area. Solly Mack Nov 2018 #4
Bring light MissB Nov 2018 #5
What's your goal? WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2018 #6
That's the problem. TomSlick Nov 2018 #11
How is anti-Semitism expressed in your area? WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2018 #14
I RARELY hear anti-Semitic remarks. TomSlick Nov 2018 #17
Vote, vote, vote. Get others to vote. Raise money. Make calls. Write postcards. nt LAS14 Nov 2018 #10
All done. TomSlick Nov 2018 #18
I don't know anything about the ADL, but according to this, diva77 Nov 2018 #20
Good idea. TomSlick Nov 2018 #21
HIAS is the world's oldest leftynyc Nov 2018 #23
I sincerely appreciate the suggestion. TomSlick Nov 2018 #24

Behind the Aegis

(53,987 posts)
1. The best thing you can do, is learn about anti-Semitism.
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 02:49 AM
Nov 2018

There are several good books out there about anti-Semitism. There are various types of anti-Semitism and learning what they are and how they manifest will allow you to confront it when you see it. Also, listen to Jews when they tell you something is anti-Semitic. You needn't always agree, but at least take the time to listen why they feel something is anti-Semitic. Be willing to confront anti-Semitism no matter where it manifests, even if it is uncomfortable to do so.

TomSlick

(11,109 posts)
7. Thanks.
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 01:08 PM
Nov 2018

I have done a lot of reading on anti-Semitism since my college days. (I wrote a senior thesis on anti-Semitism and remain very interested in the issue)

Anti-Semitism in my area is subtle, probably because there are so few Jews in this area. However, when I hear it - I bark.

qwlauren35

(6,150 posts)
25. I'm having difficulty with something.
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 11:25 AM
Nov 2018

i went on line looking for something about anti-Semitism from the Left. I found an article. It seemed to say some truths, but when I posted it on Facebook, the response I got was so militant, I am really taken aback.

Is it possible that the Right is right about the Left and anti-Semitism?

Here is the article.

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/rise-black-anti-semitism/

I'd like your opinion.

Also, if you could, please lead me to some links from Jewish sources, preferably non-partisan, about anti-Semitism coming from both sides.

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
2. Well, I went to Shabbat at a friend's synagogue tonight.
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 02:55 AM
Nov 2018

There were a bunch of Christians, Muslims, atheists like me, etc. who just went and sang and read and even danced a little, because we were told that now is the most important time to dance. Some people guarded the doors, just to show they were willing to protect our friends. We talked about healing and social justice and the need for activism in this insanity. That wasn’t adjacent to the service, it WAS the service. I felt more peace there than in most places I go, because we mattered more than them, or him.

It’s a good start.

MurrayDelph

(5,301 posts)
13. Same here
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 02:19 PM
Nov 2018

The nearest shul is 80 miles away. I'd planned to go today, but found out the Saturday services started at 9:15, which would mean leaving by 7. Couldn't do it.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
3. Try and catch the first
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 04:03 AM
Nov 2018

20 minutes of Bill Maher's show last night. Bari Weiss writes for the NYTimes and she had her Bat Mitzvah at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh. She and Bill had an important discussion about anti-semitism - on the right and on the left.

TomSlick

(11,109 posts)
9. I never miss Maher.
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 01:15 PM
Nov 2018

I have to wade through his religious animus but it's usually worth the trip. I will curious to see whether he can discuss anti-Semitism without attacking Judaism.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
12. I can't think of a time
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 01:51 PM
Nov 2018

when Bill trashed Judaism. I know his mother was Jewish and while I've seen him burn other religions, he singes Judaism and only referencing the Chassidic especially those that don think Israel should exist yet.

But in all honesty, it was one of the best of his shows I'd ever seen. Relevant talk from start to finish.

TomSlick

(11,109 posts)
15. It's recorded. I look forward to it.
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 02:33 PM
Nov 2018

I also cannot recall hearing him attack Judaism - at least not directly. His general anti-religious attacks are off-putting.

The broad brush religious attacks are unhelpful. The right is anti-Semitic and anti-Muslim. Some on the left simply are simply anti-religion. We need to learn to simply respect each other. Mocking religion - any religion - is illiberal.

qwlauren35

(6,150 posts)
19. I watched it.
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 07:50 PM
Nov 2018

some things I took away.

Left-wing anti-Semitism is often aimed at Israel.

Right-wing anti-Semitism is usually in the form of a conspiracy theory that Jews control everything.

Jews are 2% of America's population, but the recipients of 50% of all hate crimes.

That last one, I didn't know, and I am sickened. And I want to do something.

Let me know if you have any ideas.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
22. I can only tell you
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 02:47 AM
Nov 2018

what I try and do. Never let hatred or bigotry stand, when you see it, when you hear it, say something. We'll never stamp it out but driving it underground, making it seen as the ugliness it is, educating when you can - those are the things we can all do. But please don't kid yourself when it comes to anti-semitism. It's the oldest hatred and Israel is merely the latest excuse and plenty on the left, some right here make comments like Israel controls our policies. No different from the ugliness from the right.

Solly Mack

(90,785 posts)
4. Listen, read, visit - look for community programs in your area.
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 04:19 AM
Nov 2018

Lots of good books explaining anti-Semitism. Jewish people will tell you what is and isn't offensive - just ask.

Reach out, mainly.

Reach out and let people know you want to help.




MissB

(15,812 posts)
5. Bring light
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 08:42 AM
Nov 2018

That was the message I read in an article after the attack. I’d rather not link to it, but the gist of it was to fight the darkness, bring light through good actions in your community. Those actions can be with the Jewish community or not- just bring light into the world through good actions.

TomSlick

(11,109 posts)
11. That's the problem.
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 01:22 PM
Nov 2018

My goal is vague - I just want to DO something.

I guess I want to say very clearly that the anti-Semitism is not acceptable. There is a very small Jewish population in this area - no synagogues for miles. The anti-Semitism in this area is subtle because there is no one on whom to focus the hatred.

Maybe the problem is that my soul is hurt and needs to DO something.

TomSlick

(11,109 posts)
17. I RARELY hear anti-Semitic remarks.
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 02:48 PM
Nov 2018

Mainly from older folks. (I've broken my parents from such - at least in my earshot.)

You're making me think - thanks. I think my problem is that anti-Semitism, anti-Muslim, racism, misogyn, etc. are becoming socially acceptable - at least among the Trumpsters. A sign in the yard for Dem candidates, a futile vote in my very red district, contributing to Dem candidates that have a shot at winning, all help. I still want to somehow say "This isn't me - Hate is not acceptable."

diva77

(7,656 posts)
20. I don't know anything about the ADL, but according to this,
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 09:06 PM
Nov 2018

"The mission of ADL (Anti-Defamation League) is to stop the defamation of the Jewish people and to secure justice and fair treatment to all."

it might be a good place to get ideas.

https://www.adl.org/

TomSlick

(11,109 posts)
21. Good idea.
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 10:50 PM
Nov 2018

Or maybe, the HIAS. The murder seems to have particularly hated the HIAS. Maybe a check to the group this putz hates is the answer. I think the HIAS has branched out to aiding all immigrants so maybe I can get a twofer.

Thanks.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
23. HIAS is the world's oldest
Sun Nov 4, 2018, 02:56 AM
Nov 2018

refugee organization. Founded in 1888 to resettle Jews fleeing programs and other persecution. Now they're one of 9 other organizations that work with our state department helping refugees all over the world. They say they started helping and taking in refugees because they were Jewish and now help others because we - HIAS - is Jewish. They pay it forward. And that's what had that Jew hating piece of shit attack that synagogue.

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