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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJohn Dean thinks it's highly likely that Mueller already has
sealed indictments ready to release.
This ain't Mueller's first rodeo.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,560 posts)LW1977
(1,233 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,839 posts)And I hope he releases them soon.
still_one
(92,108 posts)msongs
(67,381 posts)Onward AND Upward
(122 posts)renate
(13,776 posts)Of course they aren't. I'm plotzing at the moment (we don't even get a day to catch our breath?!?!), but you're absolutely right!
Onward AND Upward
(122 posts)1. Immediately release a report.
2. Immediately release a report to the Grand Jury (which he's most likely been sharing the info with), and file for an indictment.
3. Hand off the info to another agency to pursue.
renate
(13,776 posts)I wonder whether Mueller got permission from Rosenstein already to proceed with any of these--would the authorization have to be done in real time, or could it be preemptive?
I guess we'll find out soon enough.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)...even if Mueller is gone.
calimary
(81,179 posts)I hope he's had this all ready to go, triggered with a single phone call.
marybourg
(12,606 posts)He must act now, before hes fired.
MadDAsHell
(2,067 posts)TomSlick
(11,096 posts)Charlotte Little
(658 posts)Mueller being a republican is irrelevant. He's a conservative too.
Big deal. Republicans are not evil, nor are conservatives. They have different views than Dems/liberals - which used to be acceptable.
Trumpublicans and Trumpservatives are evil. They have a whole different ideology than Dems/liberals and traditional republicans/conservatives.
Mueller is in the first camp, not the latter.
Also, he is more a genius than you or I, so...
MadDAsHell
(2,067 posts)Charlotte Little
(658 posts)And saying it won't make it true.
Do better.
Jim__
(14,072 posts)Does the US have any kind of legitimate government if the president can prevent any investigation into his own corruption? I don't think so.
agingdem
(7,827 posts)this is like Trump firing Comey and bragging he fired him to shut down Russia investigation... like Mueller didn't see this coming...of course he did...
avebury
(10,952 posts)the first thing that the Democrats in the house should do in the next session is submit a request for the Treasury to fork over Trump's tax returns.
riverwalker
(8,694 posts)he has had a Plan B, C, and D, ever since this started.
GoCubsGo
(32,078 posts)This is the guy who hired the country's 16 top financial crimes lawyers on his very first afternoon on the job. He probably has Plans E-ZZZ, too.
ooky
(8,920 posts)No way I can blieve a professional like Mueller wouldn't have anticipated and prepared for this.
displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)Thanks for posting this! The doom & gloom people assume that TrumpCo is actually smart.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Buckle up, kids! It's going to be a wild ride.
getagrip_already
(14,674 posts)He will need rosensteins approval to unseal them. Per tbe memo authorizing him, he isnt independent.
If rosenstein is gone, then tbe solicitor general slides in.
You know, the guy they gave a secret ethics waiver to so be would be able to oversee muehler.
mikeysnot
(4,756 posts)up charges with local AG in NJ and NY to handle state crimes if this happens.
apkhgp
(1,068 posts)Indictment
Trial
Verdict
Sentencing
Prison Term
Probation
Just patiently waiting.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Or release indictment Wednesday
ZeroSomeBrains
(638 posts)FDR waited to declare war against Hitler after Pearl Harbor until Hitler did so. Being shrewd means playing coy until you absolutely have to show your hand. He knows the House Democrats have his back when they are in the majority so he can be patient. And he knows Drumpf will act like an imbecile and go off firing him so waiting might be the best option.
flamingdem
(39,312 posts)Good times ahead
Cha
(297,026 posts)pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)The longer they wait the more Trump maneuvers.
"ready to release". . . what is he waiting for?
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)For the russian in the WH to do something so we just react again. The election is over. America spoke. They cheated the senate races in FLA and GA and we knowit...now lets just paddycake it. So so tired of this daily churning.
fierywoman
(7,678 posts)Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)one...nothing to see here. Move along...
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,656 posts)in anticipation of exactly this circumstance.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Bobby M needs to drop some charges...LIKE TOMORROW BOB.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,656 posts)Just wondering.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Enlighten us. What will be left to save Velveteen? Lets all just sit around another year eh?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,656 posts)dealt with the FBI when they were investigating a client in a bank fraud case, and taught constitutional law, although a long time ago. I've never investigated a president, but I've got some experience and knowledge about the federal criminal investigation process. And, more importantly, based on comments from people who have worked directly with Bob Mueller - all of whom have expressed confidence that he's ahead of Trump and his stooges - I believe Mueller knows what he's doing and will manage to keep the investigation going.
DinahMoeHum
(21,783 posts)Heres our theory. If word flashed out on the newswires that Donald Trump has removed Jeff Sessions, Robert Mueller will immediately before Trump can get to his next step -- deliver his findings on obstruction to Rod Rosenstein. Once that report is officially in the hands of Rosenstein and the DOJ, it will be impossible to suppress it.
In short, if Donald Trump fires Robert Mueller, Mueller will instantly activate a report that details truly impeachable offenses. Trump will have pulled the trigger on his own demise.
And how about Muellers unusual decision to let word get out into the press that he had already reached his conclusion on obstruction?
Wed love to think that Mueller was just sending a coded message over to the legal team at the White House. Tell your boy that if he fires me, the shit hits the fan, all right... but it will be far more toxic radioactive waste than Trump was banking on.
Robert Mueller has been one step ahead of everyone since he and his investigative team first set up shop. . .My money is on Mueller.
Let the endgame begin.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)from Mueller the Country required of 2/3rds of America in getting out and voting. YOUR MOVE BOB.