Sun Nov 11, 2018, 09:25 AM
PCIntern (21,198 posts)
A footnote to the very significant PA election...
Over four years ago I wrote a post detailing how I had been invited to a small gathering to discuss issues with someone who was thinking of running for Governor. Tom Wolf is a close friend of a patient of mine and there were about eight of us at my patient's gracious home in the Fairmount section of Philadelphia. Mr. Wolf came around to each of us, we had a nice chat as to who we were, etc., and then he gave what could best be described as a stump speech. Afterwards he asked each of us individually what we thought. My reply was as follows: I think PA could do with a thoughtful, progressive, business-oriented governor in these times and there is a kindness/fatherliness which you possess which is a great asset. There are two things which caused me to raise my eyebrows: first is that you told a sort of funny joke that Governor Rendell had chosen you for his cabinet because you were the only Democrat in York County who owned a tie. Although amusing, it denigrates rural Democrats. Secondly, you kept referring to your Peace Corps years: many in our backwards state think that if you were in the Peace Corps, you were a draft dodger during Vietnam - that's a fact of life here even though one thing had nothing to do with the other. It is OK for Republicans to avoid the draft, quite another thing for Democrats to do so.
So when he announced, I noticed that those two facets of his speech were missing. The day after the successful election, I received a huge plant from a Florist with the Governor-elect's and his wife's name with the nicest note. But I thought that he would never be re-elected: that Harrisburg Rethugs would chew him up and spit him out. I was wrong: he won somewhat overwhelmingly over a candidate who might be best described as a Donald Trump without the "class" and "brains" if that's even possible. I'm extremely pleased about this. He is a decent man and a moral man without the sanctimony. Senator Casey of course won: him I know as well: his campaign for his first term was run out of the building in which I practice and have had many elevator/lobby conversations with him. Although a member of the Lucky Sperm Club, his last name is magical here in PA. Just a word or two after a successful election day here...
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PCIntern | Nov 2018 | OP |
dem4decades | Nov 2018 | #1 | |
PCIntern | Nov 2018 | #3 | |
Blue_true | Nov 2018 | #6 | |
delisen | Nov 2018 | #14 | |
Hekate | Nov 2018 | #19 | |
Blue_true | Nov 2018 | #23 | |
Pacifist Patriot | Nov 2018 | #2 | |
mainstreetonce | Nov 2018 | #4 | |
BumRushDaShow | Nov 2018 | #5 | |
PCIntern | Nov 2018 | #7 | |
BumRushDaShow | Nov 2018 | #9 | |
PCIntern | Nov 2018 | #21 | |
BumRushDaShow | Nov 2018 | #22 | |
MyOwnPeace | Nov 2018 | #16 | |
BumRushDaShow | Nov 2018 | #18 | |
hexola | Nov 2018 | #8 | |
PoindexterOglethorpe | Nov 2018 | #10 | |
PCIntern | Nov 2018 | #11 | |
Cosmocat | Nov 2018 | #12 | |
blue neen | Nov 2018 | #13 | |
Delarage | Nov 2018 | #15 | |
Butterflylady | Nov 2018 | #17 | |
Hekate | Nov 2018 | #20 |
Response to PCIntern (Original post)
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 09:30 AM
dem4decades (7,510 posts)
1. Maybe you should have raised your eyebrows and omitted the Lucky Sperm joke.
It denigrates wealthy Democrats.
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Response to dem4decades (Reply #1)
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 09:34 AM
PCIntern (21,198 posts)
3. Oh come on...
do you think for one millisecond that Senator Casey would be where he is if it weren't for his dad? You live here in PA? Gimme a break...
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Response to PCIntern (Reply #3)
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 10:01 AM
Blue_true (29,968 posts)
6. I like your posts. But the poster is right.
Using "lucky sperm club" to describe good people that just happen to be born in powerful or rich families does denigrate those people. If it was me, I would focus on their goodness and not their birth status. Julia Dreyfus is a perfect example, born into a very wealthy family, went to top private school, became an actress on a hit show maybe because of her background, but has continued to have success on her own account. She is very wealthy by her own efforts, but she will or has billions of trust fund dollars too. None of that affects her goodness or her charitable actions toward those less fortunate. Why insult a person like that with a poorly chosen phrase?
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Response to Blue_true (Reply #6)
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 11:32 AM
delisen (5,226 posts)
14. Because equal opportunity is a bedrock concept in democracy
When that door opened to Dreyfus because of her unearned "lucky background" it meant she got the opportunity to demonstrate her talent and skill and another equally or more talented and skilled but unprivileged person did not. If Dreyfus has used that advantage to seriously further equal opportunity I salute her. I hope she has. |
Response to Blue_true (Reply #6)
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 01:52 PM
Hekate (67,195 posts)
19. And we are not allowed to notice that people born on 3rd base have an advantage?How long has it been
...since we've had a president born in a log cabin? What is the probable fate of a child born in a modern slum?
So we can't even see it and say it? I'm the first to defend wealthy Democrats working in the political world -- they believe in democracy, and they give the rest of us a hand up. But to not even be able to point out that the descendents of Joe and Rose Kennedy and (on the other side) descendants of Prescott Bush are winners of the genetic lottery/ Lucky Sperm Club is just kind of dumb because it denies reality. |
Response to Hekate (Reply #19)
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 04:23 PM
Blue_true (29,968 posts)
23. We can call good people names because we didn't get treated by fate.
Or, we can realize that our fate does not confine us. Many born rich people can turn their backs on society, but they don't, they fight for justice, human rights, economic justice. Maybe saying insulting things about born rich people make you feel good, but kicking allies never work out.
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Response to PCIntern (Original post)
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 09:30 AM
Pacifist Patriot (23,717 posts)
2. Great story, thank you for sharing
And excellent advice you gave.
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Response to Pacifist Patriot (Reply #2)
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 09:45 AM
mainstreetonce (4,178 posts)
4. Thank you for posting this
I am new to PA, I am proud to know that good decisions were made here.
You made me feel better about the election results. First of all I want to know that the elected leaders are good people of moral conscience. I'm glad I read this post. |
Response to PCIntern (Original post)
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 10:00 AM
BumRushDaShow (76,571 posts)
5. "But I thought that he would never be re-elected"
I certainly EXPECTED him to be re-elected because Philly was going to make it so. Plus his family is an old one in York County and his selection of John Fetterman, sortof a younger "kindred spirit" (in terms of public service) was a good one.
But what I think sealed the fate for the GOP was this disgrace - It was a more violent equivalent to this nonsense that we recall from 6 years ago - One of the underlying things with this election is the Clergy abuse cases I think, and when you have your Democrats at the top of the state government really making that a focus this year (not unlike what happened with the Sandusky case in 2014, which helped to boot Corbett and bring Wolf into office), he was bound to get back in. And as a sidenote - PA Democrats picked up 11 new state House seats and 5 new state Senate seats, so that is amazing given how gerrymandered the state legislative map is! ![]() |
Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #5)
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 10:07 AM
PCIntern (21,198 posts)
7. I meant when he was FIRST elected....
I never thought he'd make it...
I was wrong... |
Response to PCIntern (Reply #7)
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 10:21 AM
BumRushDaShow (76,571 posts)
9. Okay...
![]() I still thought he would mainly because Corbett was pretty much toast with the Sandusky thing. And believe it or not - and maybe it was just me - but there was something just "folksy liberal" about Wolf that given all the rancor that was building up in the state after the Voter ID fiasco, that sortof cut through his somewhat "dry", quiet, studious persona. He literally had the street cred for "business" (appealing to suburban/COC types) and kept a public relationship with the then-mayor of York, Kim Bracey, who was the first black mayor of that city, his hometown - ![]() In 2014 when he first ran - this ad really hooked me and probably quite a few people! |
Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #9)
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 04:04 PM
PCIntern (21,198 posts)
21. Yes. I though he'd be elected
But not re-elected
I didn’t make myself clear enough. My mistake. |
Response to PCIntern (Reply #21)
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 04:06 PM
BumRushDaShow (76,571 posts)
22. I am still glad we will have a Democrat there for the 2020 census (and just beyond)
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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #5)
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 11:49 AM
MyOwnPeace (12,088 posts)
16. I still get steamed
with that Turd's Eye comment. After his plan failed in the next election I sent him a note, basically saying "Suck it!"
Funny, never did hear back from him............ ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Response to MyOwnPeace (Reply #16)
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 12:38 PM
BumRushDaShow (76,571 posts)
18. LOL
True story but over here in the east, I just never really heard of the guy or about any of those Republicans from the west. It could be because we had both Casey (the father) and Rendell sortof "buffering" the city from that stuff, and both Thornburgh and Ridge weren't teabagger crazies like you see the GOP norm being nowadays.
But the 2010 election basically killed our slim majority (we lost 13 seats in the state House back then) and of course their winning the entire legislative branch and Governorship meant they could redraw the lines, and it all went downhill after that. ![]() |
Response to PCIntern (Original post)
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 10:14 AM
hexola (4,835 posts)
8. The last installment of Corbett's gas tax stung a bit more than people might think.
This was rolled out about a year ago.
When people complained about this - they would discover it was a "Republican" tax - and not something from Gov Wolf. https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2013/11/25/corbett-signs-transportation-bill-ushering-in-higher-gas-taxes-and-70-mph-speed/ This is the DU member formerly known as hexola.
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Response to PCIntern (Original post)
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 10:55 AM
PoindexterOglethorpe (18,285 posts)
10. I don't live in PA, but several of my closest friends
are former Peace Corps Volunteers. To a person they are liberal and compassionate.
More people should join the Peace Corps. It utterly changes a person. Almost none of them wind up conservative. And know, I never was in the Corps myself. |
Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #10)
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 11:12 AM
PCIntern (21,198 posts)
11. Absolutely.
I just wanted to win. No disrespect intended.
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Response to PCIntern (Original post)
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 11:13 AM
Cosmocat (13,461 posts)
12. I know some fairly high level republican politicians in the legislature
and they don't hate him.
That says a LOT about him ... |
Response to PCIntern (Original post)
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 11:22 AM
blue neen (11,587 posts)
13. Both Gov. Wolf and Sen. Casey are kind and decent men.
PA is lucky to have both of them, and now John Fetterman, too!
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Response to PCIntern (Original post)
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 11:43 AM
Delarage (1,714 posts)
15. I loved his ads....
I live in Delaware, but in the Philly TV market. He seems like a real, down-to-earth person driving around in his Jeep. I didn't realize that his family owned Wolf Cabinets---I'm in the process of ordering cabinets for my kitchen and will give them strong consideration; I love when companies profit-share with the employees instead of gutting them for the benefit of wealthy shareholders who don't give a shit about anything but their returns.
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Response to PCIntern (Original post)
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 11:59 AM
Butterflylady (2,245 posts)
17. I know this doesn't mean much
but the thing that I liked about Governor Wolf was the fact that he drives his own car instead of being chauffeured to and from work and also he does not live in the Governors mansion.
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Response to PCIntern (Original post)
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 01:54 PM
Hekate (67,195 posts)