Avanatti says No. His Ex-Wife says no. Is this a GOP ratfucking campaign, as promised by some?

[TheBlackAdder]

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Reposted due to poor phraseology.


While in most DV cases it is not uncommon for both sides to deny allegations... something sounds fishy.


I'll hold my judgment until more facts are given, but based on Trump's crazed followers, who have threatened to attack any Democratic candidate for president, this could be a case of ratfucking. They said they would frame candidates the way they perceive that Kavanaugh was. And, of course, several tabloids are the new source that first reports it.


That is all I am saying. I'll withhold judgement until more facts are released.


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[demtenjeep]

1. would not surprise me

in the least

[Roland99]

2. Third woman. He's divorcing his SECOND wife who claimed he was emotionally abusive

[libdem4life]

4. Emotionally abusive...which is a catch-all in divorce cases and well known as such...

is a long, long way from punching a woman in the face.

[Roland99]

5. True. Which is why any speculation is worthless

Esp those pushing conspiracy theories already

[Ms. Toad]

13. You're several decades behind the times.

Divorce has been no fault in virtually every jurisdiction for at least 2 decades - just declare you have irreconcilable differences and move on. Support is determined on need, not by behavior. No need to allege an affair, emotional abuse, etc. (And, aside from when it impacts child custody, it is completely irrelevant.)

[libdem4life]

16. I was referring to Mr. Avenatti's situation/term usage...not acting as divorce attorney.

And I don't think it's been two decades since divorce attorneys used "cause" for alimony, etc. Many couples need to "mix it up" on each other, regardless of children or custody. In this case, it's a likely set up anyway.

[Ms. Toad]

18. I was referring to your suggestion that it was a standard "catch-all" phrase

It's not - and hasn't been for decades.

(Yes, many divorcing couples are behind the times and feel the need to mix it up - and believe that need to make their spouse look bad to obtain a divorce, or that if they make their spouse look bad they will get more out of the divorce. Neither is true - and competent counsel will keep the vitriol out of official court records - not insert it as a catch-all phrase in their filings)

[libdem4life]

20. Have you been in an LA divorce case where one spouse has a lot of money?

And...the attorney...competent or not... is not at all ashamed to relieve said spouse of a good deal of that money, at the other spouses' emotional expense. You might rightly guess there is a bit of experience here...and I'm not an attorney, nor am I wealthy. Just a person with an opinion. But someone used it currently in the Avenatti case.

[USALiberal]

6. You would have convicted him already. You have hated him since day one. nt

[Roland99]

8. I have? News to me.

Nice to know I have a DU stalker tho

[USALiberal]

10. No stalking needed. You post constantly about him. nt

[Roland99]

17. Interesting

Considering I haven’t for a few weeks...

[ChubbyStar]

25. Wow so you gave it a few weeks rest?

Very tempered.

[Roland99]

27. Thank you so much for your concern

[ChubbyStar]

28. You are very welcome

[Kaleva]

9. The woman later disputed that account.

"Avenatti denied the abuse allegations Thursday, saying “there was never any abuse, alleged or otherwise,” noting that the court never gave credence to the allegations and pointing to the signed stipulation filed in court.

Following the email exchange with Avenatti, Storie-Avenatti also issued a statement backtracking on the allegations she made in court under oath, saying “there was never any abuse, alleged or otherwise, in our relationship.”"

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/porn-star-lawyer-michael-avenatti-hot-tempered-loud-wife-says-in-docs-detailing-messy-divorce

[Roland99]

11. Her multiple affidavits were quite detailed.

Never wonder why she walked back some claims?

[Charlotte Little]

45. I'll be concerned but you needn't thank me.

You got a little ol' Avenatti naughty, Roland.

How about you dial down the obsession a notch.

Oh, and in case you were wondering, I'm not a fan of his.

[blm]

3. James O'Keefe

Script

[LovingA2andMI]

7. It's Smelling Like A Ratfuck...

And it would be wise to let this one wait for the facts.

[brush]

32. Exactly. It smells Frankenesque, or Ellisonesque to me. Wonder if Roger Stone...

wanted to pull one last dirty trick before Mueller indicts him?

[SharonAnn]

35. It's a Roger Stone kind of ratfuck.

[Hoyt]

12. There's also a chance pressure of separation, legal debt, living large, etc., got to Avenatti.

It will be clear shortly. Hope it doesn't turn out like Grayson.

[mobeau69]

42. He does have major financial problems.

He has judgements against him exceeding a million dollars.

[peggysue2]

14. I am not a big Avenatti fan

In fact, he lost me with the sweet nothings about a possible Presidential run.

That being said, this accusation smells to High-Heaven.

The Trumpsters hate the man, hold him responsible for their idol's losing game and sliding popularity. Doesn't take much imagination to envision them cooking up a scandal to take Avenatti out.

Reminds me of the bomb dropped on Al Franken.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

15. Why bother to ratfuck Avenatti?

His fifteen minutes of fame have expired. He wants to run for president but he hasn't got a snowball's chance in Hell of winning the nomination ahead of the increasingly deep bench of highly-qualified candidates the Dems will be fielding. His lawsuits aren't going anywhere; all he's managed to do so far is stick Stormy Daniels with having to pay attorneys' fees to Trump on account of that ill-considered and poorly researched libel claim (Avenatti should have known what a SLAPP suit is). He isn't anyone the GOP needs to take down. He stirred up a bunch of publicity this spring, but with Cohen having pled guilty and cooperating with the feds, and Avenatti unable to proceed further against Trump (the case is about to be dismissed as moot because Daniels was released from the NDA), he's not important any more. If they seriously want to ratfuck someone who could still make a difference, it wouldn't be him.

[TreasonousBastard]

19. You are assuming his attacker (if it is indeed a ratfuck) is rational.

[jberryhill]

22. Put me in the pool for "If it's a ratfuck, it's Tucker Carlson"

[jberryhill]

21. I think people are assuming the wrong ratfucker

I could see Tucker Carlson getting into some bizarre scheme, if it was a ratfuck.

O'Reilly used to threaten people with the Fox News "Security Department" as if they were some sort of black ops squad.

Trump? No. Trump's won the defamation case and has a judgment against Daniels. He's fine, and has other fish to fry on the legal front anyway.

But Fucker Carlson? I wouldn't put anything past him.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

24. Carlson is both stupid and spiteful, so I suppose it's something he might want to do,

but I still think Avenatti has become too unimportant to bother with. Also, even though he isn't likely to win any World's Greatest Lawyer prizes he at least has the wherewithal to expose and counteract any attempt at ratfuckery. If Carlson is behind it, it will soon prove to have been stupid and poorly planned.

[jberryhill]

26. Well, that's where Treasonous Bastard has a point

"If Carlson is behind it, it will soon prove to have been stupid and poorly planned."

With Roger Stone under close scrutiny and likely out of commission, the skills bank of the dirty tricks squad, such as it was, hasn't improved.

It's not as if we are not treated to a regular cavalcade of "stupid and poorly planned".

[riverwalker]

33. Trump holds grudges forever

We’ve seen it time and again. With his circle of ratfuckers to do his bidding, anything is possible.

[flibbitygiblets]

41. Why ratfuck Stormy? To delegitimize a critic.

It did happen once already...

[pnwmom]

23. The problem is that the LAPD tweeted about the arrest for a felony domestic violence,

and a $50K bail.

OTOH, Jacob Wohl's Surefire Intelligence seemed to take some kind of credit.

So who knows what's going on . . .

[flibbitygiblets]

43. Agree PNWmom, is this something police

Should be doing? What's their motivation?

[pnwmom]

48. Maybe they'd been deluged with calls. No, I don't think this is normal. nt

[PoliticAverse]

29. Michael Avenatti statement upon release on bond (video)...

[ecstatic]

40. I believe him.

trump is trying to turn the U.S. into Russia by banning journalists, questioning elections that don't go his way, and locking up his opponents.

[Blue Owl]

30. This is Surefire Intelligence

The right-wing's finest...

[flibbitygiblets]

44. Yep! Just ask his mom...

Ps, check yo fly this time, big- time investigative reporter...

[riverwalker]

31. Frankened

But we’ll know more when they ID the accuser.

[MontanaMama]

34. That's what I'm thinking.

I’m not an Avenatti groupie either...something about this doesn’t smell right.

[BigmanPigman]

36. Me three.

That was the first thing to come into my mind.

[UCmeNdc]

46. Me four!

The GOP has started paying people to make false claims.

[BigmanPigman]

56. Most corrupt party EVER!

[George II]

39. I think her initials might be "Ivanka trump"!

[OilemFirchen]

47. I heard that Carolyne Cass finally felt safe enough to return to L.A.

She's enjoying a SoCal stroll and suddenly Michael Avenatti, for reasons unknown, sucker-punches her.

Poor thing has the worst luck.

[ecstatic]

37. Me too. I really didn't think he was capable of something like that

Waiting for more details because he has a lot of enemies in very high places.

[George II]

38. That was my first thought. I wonder what Al Franken thinks?

[Greywing]

49. If Wohl is involved with this ...

I wonder if the domestic violence victim will even show up in court ... or if she even gave a legit name, address, etc. Surely that would be part of an investigation if fraudulent information were given?

Somehow this seems a little off - something is just not right. That surefire intelligence (or whatever it is called) is claiming credit for it - why would they do that? How would they have set it up? Who called the police? Why did TMZ report it was the estranged wife, then change it to the ex-wife? How would they even know Avenatti was saying "you hit me first" as he was arrested?

This is just doesn't make any sense to me ... I want facts.

[Quixote1818]

51. Filing a fake police report is a very serious crime and Jacob may have just

totally fucked up. Not to mention Avenatti is going to sue the crap out of him.

[marlakay]

50. When I told my husband he said

Someone must have paid her to take him down, he had too many goods on Trump.

With his bad temper they know it would be easy to believe he might be abusiive.

[Greywing]

53. Dirty tricksters are not going to be above twisting the Me Too movement

and using it for their own slimy purposes

[iluvtennis]

52. I was thinking the same thing after I heard his way say he never ever touched her.

[Hoyt]

54. I'd like to hear what the lady allegedly abused says.

[LanternWaste]

57. Anyone who responds on this thread appears to hold some care.

"so FFS who cares???"

Anyone who responds on this thread appears to hold, by its very definition, some care... regardless of the righteous, yet empty chastisement they may also bring.