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Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:38 AM

WV Dem Richard Ojeda launches presidential bid

Last edited Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:30 AM - Edit history (1)

He's a vet and has a nice southern accent. he's on Morning Joe


Hmm he voted for Trump....oh oh

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Reply WV Dem Richard Ojeda launches presidential bid (Original post)
SummerSnow Nov 2018 OP
Sunsky Nov 2018 #1
Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #5
Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2018 #37
dalton99a Nov 2018 #38
RandiFan1290 Nov 2018 #2
JHan Nov 2018 #14
hlthe2b Nov 2018 #3
obamanut2012 Nov 2018 #13
hlthe2b Nov 2018 #16
Demonaut Nov 2018 #31
Cha Nov 2018 #4
bobGandolf Nov 2018 #6
CottonBear Nov 2018 #7
brooklynite Nov 2018 #8
LisaL Nov 2018 #9
obamanut2012 Nov 2018 #17
brooklynite Nov 2018 #22
FSogol Nov 2018 #26
dansolo Nov 2018 #42
jcgoldie Nov 2018 #44
hlthe2b Nov 2018 #18
edhopper Nov 2018 #24
lilactime Nov 2018 #10
obamanut2012 Nov 2018 #11
JHan Nov 2018 #12
octoberlib Nov 2018 #15
dansolo Nov 2018 #19
SummerSnow Nov 2018 #29
bullimiami Nov 2018 #20
GoCubsGo Nov 2018 #21
disillusioned73 Nov 2018 #23
Small-Axe Nov 2018 #30
grantcart Nov 2018 #32
disillusioned73 Nov 2018 #34
MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #45
Snotcicles Nov 2018 #25
harumph Nov 2018 #27
lunasun Nov 2018 #28
dameatball Nov 2018 #33
JHan Nov 2018 #35
dameatball Nov 2018 #36
JHan Nov 2018 #39
NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #40
rogue emissary Nov 2018 #41
jcgoldie Nov 2018 #43
helpisontheway Nov 2018 #46

Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:42 AM

1. And he voted for Trump in 2016

That disqualifies him for me. I don't trust his judgment.

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Response to Sunsky (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:48 AM

5. +100

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Response to Sunsky (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 02:13 PM

37. I can handle a reformed Trump voter changing their voting patterns

I CAN'T stomach one for POTUS.

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Response to Sunsky (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 02:23 PM

38. Because there wasn't a better candidate



Yeah, NO. Hell NO.

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:44 AM

2. lol

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Response to RandiFan1290 (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:32 AM

14. LMAO perfect

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:47 AM

3. He says a lot of things I appreciate hearing, including attacking the notion that the US

is the "greatest" only because they can beat militarily most of the world. Pointing out the problems that that attitude hides and fails to address is really good--coming from a 10 year military vet.

He came off pretty good, which somewhat surprised me, given a lot of what I've read about him. I'll enjoy him taking on Trump, at least, even if I have qualms about him becoming the nominee.

And yes, foremost among those concerns is the fact he admits voting for Trump in 2016... Heavens

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:32 AM

13. He voted for Trump and is anti choice

NEXT!

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:33 AM

16. Yes.. I pointed that out as well.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #16)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 11:20 AM

31. he's toast

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:48 AM

4. Ojeda Voted for trump. Not Smart.

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:50 AM

6. If he voted for Trump in 2016.....

he can't really believe he has a chance at securing the Democratic nomination for president in 2020. No way in the world would I vote for him.

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:54 AM

7. He voted for Trump. He should not be a candidate. N/T

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:17 AM

8. The Democratic Base Philosophy vs the General Election Voter Philosophy...

The Democratic Base Philosophy: Someone who voted for Trump is forever tainted and should be shunned.

The General Election Voter Philosophy: Someone who voted for Trump and recognizes their mistake can be won back as a Democratic voter.

Which approach helps win elections?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:19 AM

9. We are not talking about this guy being won back as a democratic voter.

He is planning to run for president.
Are you really going to argue this guy is presidential material?

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Response to LisaL (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:33 AM

17. +1

But yet so many on DU say Kamala Harris is tainted somehow. wtaf

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Response to LisaL (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:42 AM

22. I'm going to argue that, aside from a phone call I've had with him, I have no opinion...

...but that "voting for Trump two years ago" doesn't automatically disqualify him.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #22)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 10:27 AM

26. It does in my book. Once a moron, almost always a moron. n/t

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #22)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 02:55 PM

42. What about never voting for a Democrat for President?

It sounds like he voted for Bush, McCain and Romney as well. Is that enough to disqualify him?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #22)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:12 PM

44. It absolutely does

If you looked at 2016 and decided Trump was the best choice then you are either a racist or an idiot... especially if you claim to be a democrat. If people that made that terrible decision have thought better of it or awoken to reality then we welcome them back with open arms to the party, but not as candidates for president.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:34 AM

18. There will be some who believe as you say in the dichotomy.

But, it is the hard core Dems that vote in primaries.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 10:21 AM

24. If he voted for Trump over Hillary

his core values are not what I want for a candidate.

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:28 AM

10. He voted for Trump and he's anti-abortion. NEXT!

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:29 AM

11. And voted for Trump

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:32 AM

12. good luck with that dude.

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:32 AM

15. Voted for Trump. No way.

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:41 AM

19. Did he vote for Obama in 2012?

If he voted for Romney, then he is completely full of shit.

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Response to dansolo (Reply #19)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 10:52 AM

29. He said he never voted for a dem for president..

stated in his wikipedia


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Ojeda


So, he didn't vote for Obama. Buh bye

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:41 AM

20. Sorry but Rs don't give a shit about vets or southern or anything.

Remember Max Cleland vs Saxby Chambliss.

A real southern war hero vs a nothing.

They shit all over Max and the same party loves Trump.


Is this guy trying to attract dems?

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:41 AM

21. Who?

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 10:16 AM

23. Don't discount this guy off hand..

 

he ran an interesting congressional campaign in WV - yes WV... he will resonate with some folks

I saw this a couple days ago, he breaks it down quite nicely...





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Response to disillusioned73 (Reply #23)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 10:56 AM

30. He might appeal to populists.

 

Populism, of course, is the most toxic and blood-stained ideology on earth.

Beware of demagogues.

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Response to Small-Axe (Reply #30)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 11:46 AM

32. +1

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Response to Small-Axe (Reply #30)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 12:48 PM

34. Are you calling this guy a demagogue??

 

That is not the impression I've gotten from what I've seen.. now, I am not in his state or district, but it seemed to me he would have been a lot better choice then the Republican..

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Response to disillusioned73 (Reply #23)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:13 PM

45. Too late.

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 10:23 AM

25. I recall Micheal Moore speaking with him in Fahrenheit 11/9. nt

 

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 10:30 AM

27. He voted for Trump which shows at the least, extremely bad judgment.

So bad, in fact, IMO he disqualifies himself. There are so many potential good candidates
that I have to strongly suspect the motives of posters soft peddling this guy.
If that gets me banned so be it.

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 10:43 AM

28. Please don't even


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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 11:48 AM

33. There is something "off" with this guy. He sounds sincere, but I think he may have some

hidden issues. He may be able to pull things off in WV, but no way should even be able to sniff a Democratic presidential nomination.

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Response to dameatball (Reply #33)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 02:08 PM

35. He lost his race though.

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Response to JHan (Reply #35)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 02:13 PM

36. I missed that. Thought he won. Good point.

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Response to dameatball (Reply #36)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 02:25 PM

39. He still over performed for a red area, but... ultimately lost.

To be charitable, he could have lost by a lot more.

Now Michael Moore wants to tell me that this guy is the voice of the progressive working class when he wishes to limit abortion to rape and incest only, and is pro-gun-rights

This bothers me because it reveals the dishonesty behind a lot of the hype - no moderate dem would get away with those positions but because Ojeda is a vet, has some tattoos, is "anti-establishment", it's all good. It's obviously bullshit because I guess 3rd way, compromise politics is fine for some people, so much so they get called a voice of the progressive working class, but not for others who get dragged.

Still, I don't have a problem with him throwing his hat in, but uhm,.. he's gonna have a tough time.

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 02:29 PM

40. was hoping he would challenge Capito

in 2020.

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 02:44 PM

41. I don't see who will support this guy.

Now I didn't see the interview. Only read a profile and a quick blurb about his run.

Most Trump voter are cultist and would see him as a traitor. The people that may vote for him as a remorseful trump supporter are maybe 5-10% Max.

His anti-choice and pro-gun stance will alienate him with at least 50% of the most loyal Democratic voters.

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:02 PM

43. No thanks - voting for Trump is about as disqualifying as it gets

We all already knew exactly who Trump was in 2016 and if anyone could overlook that then they can fuck right off.

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:25 PM

46. Awww Hell no..anyone that voted for Trump is a NO for me!!nt

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