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(39,441 posts)
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 12:49 PM Nov 2018

Marcia Fudge, Toying With Speaker Run, Slams Nancy Pelosi

Rep. Marcia Fudge (D-Ohio) is all but announcing her intention to run for House speaker against Nancy Pelosi, testing the waters Thursday by slamming Pelosi and putting race at the forefront of her campaign.

While she stopped short of officially throwing her hat in the ring during a sit-down interview with HuffPost, Fudge said she’s been “overwhelmed” by the number of people reaching out to support her potential speaker bid. She thinks the the opposition to Pelosi in the caucus is much greater than the 17 Democrats who have signed a letter saying they won’t support Pelosi to be speaker, and Fudge said if the vote were held today, Pelosi would be well short of the numbers.

“I don’t hate Nancy. I think Nancy has been a very good leader,” Fudge told HuffPost. “I just think it’s time for a new one.”

...Fudge pointed to Pelosi’s refusal to endorse in the race for Majority Whip, a race between current No. 3 Democrat ― and CBC stalwart ― Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.), and Dianna DeGette (D-Colo.).

“But she wants our endorsements?” Fudge said of Pelosi. “Who has she endorsed?”

“We’re not feeling the love,” Fudge added.

...Fudge offered that one of the reasons people don’t like Pelosi is because “they see her as an elitist.”

“And I think to some degree she is,” Fudge continued. “She’s a very wealthy person, she raises a lot of money from a lot of other wealthy people.”

“Everybody wants to give her such big credit for winning back the House, and she should be here because she won. She didn’t win it by herself,” Fudge said.

“If we’re going to give her credit for the wins, why is she not responsible for all the losses,” Fudge asked, specifically pointing to the 63 seats Democrats lost in 2010 and the large majorities Republicans held in 2012, 2014, and 2016.

...Fudge also said she would be more bottom-up in her procedural approach than Pelosi. “Just think about what happened,” Fudge said. “One day after we win back the House, leadership comes out and starts talking about what’s going to be our first bill, what we’re going to do first. Did they talk to anybody?”

“Team means doing ‘What I want you to do,’” she said.

She offered that the top priority of Democrats might be protections for people with pre-existing conditions, it might be student debt, or infrastructure, or job creation. “But nobody, none of the doors I knocked on, none of the people’s hands I shook, said, ’You should make campaign finance reform your No. 1 issue,” she said.

More at https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/marcia-fudge-speaker_us_5bed9033e4b03af89267a979
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(103,072 posts)
1. This is GD ugly....
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 12:51 PM
Nov 2018

Both on the part of Fudge (who I'd reserved judgement on) and frankly that some DUers echo it.


Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. Do not think you want a Green Horn at this
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 12:55 PM
Nov 2018

juncture in our History. Remember this,Steny Hoyer just was reelected majority Leader for the next Congress. And he had just a hand full of no votes.

Stop ant really think, Hoyer=same old guard,think about that.


(52,212 posts)
5. No campaign finance reform means no anything else
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 12:56 PM
Nov 2018

yes we have to make that point. voting reform is also vital. We lost at least three major races this cycle (in all probablity) due to voting suppression. Assuming Evans, Gillam and Nelson all lost as is very probable they lost thanks to voter suppression.


(39,441 posts)
7. I think her issue is with top-down leadership rather than elevating it as an issue
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 01:00 PM
Nov 2018

As in members are routinely not consulted on legislative priorities.


(5,240 posts)
6. I'm sorry but this wrote itself....
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 12:57 PM
Nov 2018

Ok, is anyone else thinking of the somewhat inappropriate and mildly obscene line this conjures up?

Eliot Rosewater

(31,268 posts)
10. I have this fantasy, ALL non cons showing support for Nancy, thus making her
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 01:02 PM
Nov 2018

even stronger than she is.

THAT would scare the HOLY FUCK out of KGB, putin and rump, mcconnell etal

We have that within our power to do, but we wont.

Instantly she would become so powerful, liberal ideology would become so powerful, ALL minorities would have so much protection...and the environment, etc.



(2,897 posts)
11. Eh, 1/3rd of the Caucus voted for a backbencher last time around instead of Pelosi.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 01:06 PM
Nov 2018

There's clearly a larger contingent beyond the #fivewhiteguys that have issues with Pelosi's and leadership in general that had it's members refreshed and expanded.

I still think Pelosi should be speaker, but I'm not against a challenger arising. Pelosi needs a show of strength if she wants her caucus to stand behind her for the next 2 years.


(14,971 posts)
13. We do need campaign finance reform
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 01:11 PM
Nov 2018

but it’ll never get through the Senate. Probably won’t even make it out of the House. And Pelosi’s fundraising helped finance a lot of races in the mid- terms.


(39,441 posts)
15. She doesn't think so
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 01:18 PM
Nov 2018
Fudge pushed back on suggestions that she may just be a stalking-horse candidate for Clyburn or another CBC member to mount a speaker bid ― someone like current CBC Chairman Cedric Richmond (D-La.), for example, or Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.). She said anyone who thinks that doesn’t know her very well. She also shot down a suggestion that her toying with a speaker run could be about combating a narrative that it’s a bunch of misogynist white men who are trying to dethrone Pelosi ― or that the Pelosi opposition is coming exclusively from moderates.

Instead, Fudge said this was about a fresh start in Congress, making sure that Democratic leadership reflects the voters who gave Democrats the majority ― specifically, African-American women. (Fudge pointed out that while women have gotten a lot of credit for ushering in the Democratic majority, white women are still broadly supporting Republicans. She mentioned that Stacey Abrams lost white women by 76 percent in her bid to be governor of Georgia, and that were it not for black women in Alabama, Roy Moore would now be a senator.)

“And so I’m saying, what is wrong with acknowledging the fact that the Democratic Party is becoming more young, more black, and more brown?” Fudge said. “And letting that be reflected in our leadership.”


(103,072 posts)
16. "The most perverse thing about #FiveWhiteGuys insurrection against Pelosi is watching progressives
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 01:20 PM
Nov 2018

joyfully rush to get played by a centrist." Moulton and his ilck are far to the right of the Pelosi caucus, so what gives, progressives?

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