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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsReagan, JFK, Sinatra and our parents and grandparents.
I was standing out in the cold last night at our weekly protest of the nazi traitor fascist in the WH, specifically him and Whitaker and was speaking to some friends about how many of our family members went left or right, politically.
Sinatra was a JFK fan, and most of my relatives were Sinatra fans.
Sinatra built a WING onto his Palm Springs home to house JFK while president for a weekend visit. This was a BIG FUCKING DEAL to have a PRESIDENT stay at your house.
The Rat PackLawford (to the right of Dean Martin in photo) was both a member of Sinatra's Rat Pack and a Kennedy relative by marriage. When Bobby asked Lawford to inform Sinatra of the President's change in plans, Peter pleaded with Bobby to reconsider. The attorney general was adamant, however, that the President could not stay at the house of a man who also played host to hoodlums.
Lawford told Sinatra biographer Kitty Kelley: "It fell to me to break the news to Frank, and I was frankly scared. When I rang the President I said that Frank expected him to stay at the Sinatra compound, and anything less than his presence there was going to be tough to explain. It had been kind of a running joke with all of us in the family that Frank was building up his Palm Springs house for just such a trip by the President, adding cottages for Jack and the Secret Service, putting in 25 extra phone lines, installing enough cable to accommodate teletype facilities, plus a switchboard and building a heliport. He even erected a flagpole for the Presidential flag after he saw the one flying over the Kennedy compound in Hyannisport. No one asked Frank to do any of this, but he really expected his place to be the President's Western White House."
"When Jack called me, he said that as President he just couldn't stay at Frank's and sleep in the same bed that [Sam] Giancana or any other hood had slept in. 'You can handle it, Petah,' he said to me."
http://stevenlewis.info/crosby/kennedy.htm
But, he was talked out of going and Ole Blue Eyes was PISSED!
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Fast forward, after this snub, and Sinatra is endorsing one of the worst presidents of all time, Ronnie. Some of my relatives followed right along.
And now I wonder, if they were alive, sure if you told them about rump and NOT that he has an R after his name, they would hate him, but what if they knew he was an R ?? Would they hate him the way we ASSUME Ronnie would? I dont know, maybe best they arent around to find out. but that sucks too.
BigmanPigman
(51,567 posts)He had personally hooked Kennedy up with a lot of his Hollywood pals and arranged a lot of the election and inauguration star studded festivities himself. I can understand why he would be pissed off but I don't see why he would change political parties over it.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)his in-depth political analysis.
He went with his gut on most stuff I think and in this case he just never got over being pissed.
Reagan himself was a Democrat, it took a new wife and that wife's sick twisted father to turn him.
no_hypocrisy
(46,029 posts)JFK stayed at the home of Bing Crosby that week-end, instead of Sinatra.
That had to burn . . . . . . . .
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)kskiska
(27,045 posts)Prior to all this, Frank put in a lot of time and energy to campaign for Kennedy and enlisted the entire Rat Pack, and produced the Inaugural Gala the night before the Inauguration. Then the Kennedys stiffed him. He never spoke to Peter Lawford again.
vlyons
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