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Lithos

(26,403 posts)
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 02:26 AM Nov 2018

Pelosi

This is a rant, emotional....

Pelosi: Definition - A very strong and intelligent woman who has taken a lot of unwarranted criticism because she is a very strong and intelligent woman.

I support her this term. Tactically - no one has shown better skills. However, I do have a reservations...

Who is her successor? Rep. Fudge certainly is not (off-topic to this thread). Pelosi supports Progressives, but she mentoring one or more successors seems to have eluded her.

And, why couldn't she be from anywhere *but* California? I am extremely grateful each and every day for the blue anchor which is California, but sometimes that anchor seems to be counter-productive in other states...

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Pelosi (Original Post) Lithos Nov 2018 OP
This San Franciscan is helping to keep the light lit for you. NBachers Nov 2018 #1
I am grateful for the work you all have done to lead this effort Lithos Nov 2018 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author greyl Nov 2018 #4
No... Have not heard of him Lithos Nov 2018 #13
Gotcha. Check out mp3 link I added to above edit. ;) nt greyl Nov 2018 #16
Cool Lithos Nov 2018 #20
or dweller Nov 2018 #12
Oat Willies Lithos Nov 2018 #15
I need to pay a visit dweller Nov 2018 #17
Here... Lithos Nov 2018 #21
Supreme dweller Nov 2018 #24
blue california, 5th biggest economy on earth. most red states, lowest on every measure. msongs Nov 2018 #2
You are being intellectual Lithos Nov 2018 #7
lol, the new leader for the House Republicans is from California... W_HAMILTON Nov 2018 #5
I know... Lithos Nov 2018 #9
Have you not been paying attention? Cummings, Schiff, Velaquez, Lowey... brush Nov 2018 #6
Not to nitpick but you should at least get the spelling of your heroes right - Schiff question everything Nov 2018 #8
Thanks for the typo correction but that' your input to the oft repeated false narrative of the OP... brush Nov 2018 #11
Agree to this. Might have been hard in the last 8 years being banished question everything Nov 2018 #18
I do not think Schiff is ready Lithos Nov 2018 #10
He supports her and as far as Schiff IMO you are off base on that. brush Nov 2018 #14
Not going to argue Lithos Nov 2018 #19
As far as the blue wave, Pelosi raised some 49m for the party and undoubtedly... brush Nov 2018 #22
Hmmm Lithos Nov 2018 #23

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
3. I am grateful for the work you all have done to lead this effort
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 02:34 AM
Nov 2018

I would have gleefully moved there in my youth had the Cost of Living not been so high. But I remain a Cosmic cowboy here in Austin.

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Response to Lithos (Reply #3)

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
13. No... Have not heard of him
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 03:00 AM
Nov 2018

Just googled though and he's not bad.

FYI: Cosmic Cowboy is more a 70's hippie outlook. Doug Sahm, Armadillo World Headquarters type of vibe.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
15. Oat Willies
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 03:03 AM
Nov 2018

Split Rail, Broken Spoke, Soap Creek Saloon, Cactus Cafe, Hole in the Wall (Still here!), Continental Club (Still here!)...

msongs

(67,395 posts)
2. blue california, 5th biggest economy on earth. most red states, lowest on every measure.
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 02:33 AM
Nov 2018

that's what one says to all the california bashers

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
7. You are being intellectual
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 02:47 AM
Nov 2018

What I hear are complaints about what I think is California's biggest positivity - the diversity of people...



Diversity, to me, is probably the biggest strength the US has. But it scares small people.

I fight the good fight - I am from the Republic of Austin. We love California here (except those refugees who screw up our Real Estate valuation - another topic). Maybe it's still ties to our own homegrown State hero - Beto, maybe it's a desire to see other states than the two coasts who lead the fight (Progressive envy?). Maybe it's a desire to hear something other than the 'yeah - but' comments I hear from those brainwashed by Faux News...



W_HAMILTON

(7,862 posts)
5. lol, the new leader for the House Republicans is from California...
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 02:40 AM
Nov 2018

…but heaven forbid our Democratic leader be from that state...?

brush

(53,764 posts)
6. Have you not been paying attention? Cummings, Schiff, Velaquez, Lowey...
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 02:42 AM
Nov 2018

are all very capable ranking members of their committees appointed by Pelosi so everyone who continues spreading the false narrative that she hasn't groomed a successor needs to stop showing how uninformed they are.

Cummings showed how knowledgeable he is of the protocol ins and outs of House procedure during the Benghazi hearings when he repeatedly pushed back against the repug falsehoods against Hillary Clinton.

And Rep. Shiff has also demonstated his high competence in dealing with and blunting Nunez's trump falsehoods.

And they are just two of the many ranking members she has appointed and nurtured.

question everything

(47,470 posts)
8. Not to nitpick but you should at least get the spelling of your heroes right - Schiff
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 02:47 AM
Nov 2018

Also, he - Schiff, that is - said that if Feinstien will retire, he will run for her seat.

brush

(53,764 posts)
11. Thanks for the typo correction but that' your input to the oft repeated false narrative of the OP...
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 02:57 AM
Nov 2018

that Pelosi hasn't groomed successors when she has appointed many very capable ranking members of House committees?

question everything

(47,470 posts)
18. Agree to this. Might have been hard in the last 8 years being banished
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 03:14 AM
Nov 2018

But I trust her that she will find capable members, who have been around, who know how Washington "works" and how to manipulate it to groom new blood. Perhaps has been doing it but we are not aware of it.

Also, I think that she groomed Joe Crowley but he was defeated by ACO..

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
10. I do not think Schiff is ready
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 02:56 AM
Nov 2018

He's awesome, but not the tactical leader.

Cummings is a maybe. Though I always thought of him as independent of Pelosi for the most part. The only major influence being her support of him in the Benghazi oversight committee.

brush

(53,764 posts)
14. He supports her and as far as Schiff IMO you are off base on that.
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 03:01 AM
Nov 2018

Many have even suggested him for a 2020 candidate. And then there are all the other ranking members Pelosi has appointed.

None of them meet your approval either?

And please acknowledge that your contention that Pelosi hasn't groom any successors is not accurate.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
19. Not going to argue
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 03:14 AM
Nov 2018

Understand, I have never associated any with Pelosi - if they have benefitted from her mentorship, then I missed that - mea culpa.

I love Schiff - he's awesome - just never got the get down in the trenches in the back, smokey room feel from him. He's from California.

This is pure emotion - I want someone from somewhere other than the NE or from the West Coast. I love California and what they have done for the US - especially with the awesome Blue Wave. How has Pelosi helped here?

And to emphasize - I do not support Fudge, nor Bustos. I'm not one to take my cards home just because I did not get what I wanted. Pelosi is extremely smart and talented in her role. She will do well. I'm thinking now is more of what happens after her?

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brush

(53,764 posts)
22. As far as the blue wave, Pelosi raised some 49m for the party and undoubtedly...
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 03:18 AM
Nov 2018

it was distributed to many of the candidates who won and made up the blue wave.

She's the biggest fund raiser in the party and has been for years.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
23. Hmmm
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 03:24 AM
Nov 2018

That is an under-reported figure...

It made *big* news here when Beto took some of his largesse ($800k+) and gave it back to the Texas Dem party to help with local races. It felt like the only time anyone had made any general investment into our State Party here.

To paraphrase Clapton - Beto is God here.

I know bringing Beto in is a tangent, but Pelosi is unknown here other than as her elected roles... All Politics is local, etc.

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