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Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 10:38 AM Nov 2018

Trump comments indicate he believes he is a weather-god

Trump says California wildfires have not changed his mind on climate change
During a briefing on Saturday, President Trump said that the deadly California wildfires have not changed his mind about climate change. "No, no. I have a strong opinion," he said. "I want great climate. We're going to have that."

CBS/AP November 19, 2018, 5:40 AM
California wildfires: Nearly 1,000 unaccounted for in Camp Fire — live updates

The death toll from the Camp Fire in Northern California increased by one Sunday to 77, while the number of people unaccounted for has decreased to 993 people. The blaze was two-thirds contained as of Sunday night after consuming some 150,000 acres.

In Southern California, just outside Los Angeles, the Woolsey Fire was 91 percent contained after burning 96,949 acres and killing three people. Dense smoke from the fires has been smothering parts of the state with what has been described as "the dirtiest air in the world."

Rain is forecast for mid-week, which could help firefighters but also complicate the challenging search for remains. "It's a disheartening situation," Butte County Sheriff Kory Honea said. "As much as I wish we could get through this before the rains come, I don't know if that's possible." The rain could also trigger mud and rock slides in Southern California.
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/fires-in-california-camp-woolsey-paradise-wildfire-evacuations-death-toll-map-2018-11-18-latest/


There is no reason for these massive, deadly and costly forest fires in California except that forest management is so poor. Billions of dollars are given each year, with so many lives lost, all because of gross mismanagement of the forests. Remedy now, or no more Fed payments!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 10, 2018

FYI, .@realDonaldTrump!
“...guess who owns much of the forest land in CA? Your federal agencies. CA only owns 2%. Guess who cut funding to forest management in the budget? YOU DID.” — Alyssa Milano (@Alyssa_Milano)

Alyssa MIlano is an actor, producer, designer and mother, known for her work to reduce sexual harassment in the workplace.
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Trump comments indicate he believes he is a weather-god (Original Post) Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 OP
he cant even define 'climate' samnsara Nov 2018 #1
Are you familiar with numerous laws Teflon Don intorduced, which create greenhouse gasses? Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #6
well...................... Celerity Nov 2018 #2
Thanks for the tip on this clown, Celerity.. Permanut Nov 2018 #9
As an agnostic, willing to protect ANY religion, I appreciate a lack of attacks on Christianity... Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #18
Point taken.. Permanut Nov 2018 #25
Here's a funnier point and a great X-mas present for DU writers/ reporters: Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #29
God, these people are everywhere now. Pakistan??!!? secondwind Nov 2018 #30
Who the eff gives a shit about his opinion malaise Nov 2018 #3
Plenty of racist & evangelicals believe his opinions are divine... Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #10
Only because he is occupying the White House and has at140 Nov 2018 #26
As an agnostic, willing to defend ANY kind of worship; I want to DAMN DON TO HELL, but... Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #27
The wacko Iliyah Nov 2018 #4
Do you mean "God" of Abraham? It's too close to the holidays to offend Jews, Christians and Muslims Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #23
In an effort to not disgrace ancient religions, let me add: Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #28
Well, his comments (and followers) do make people question whether god exists peekaloo Nov 2018 #5
Is the new religion called "Trumpism? As for his approach to other religions, read this: Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #15
As Fox does, TV preachers, who keep Republican flocks in line, make me wish there was a Hell Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #24
K&R smirkymonkey Nov 2018 #7
For more Trump idiocy read this recent Trump comment on CA fires: Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #12
Your quote doesn't show the actual error he made; here it is 'corrected' lagomorph777 Nov 2018 #14
thanks; your link is more explicit Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #21
OMG. smirkymonkey Nov 2018 #20
Trump-trolls hacked electronic voting machines... Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #22
From dictator to weather-god. democratisphere Nov 2018 #8
That's how the MAGAts see him... JaneQPublic Nov 2018 #11
Does he want us to sacrifice virgins to him, so he'll give us great climate? lagomorph777 Nov 2018 #13
Only one step more before he begins blaming LanternWaste Nov 2018 #16
Your post made me laugh, watoos Nov 2018 #17
The only time I've ever seen the president control the weather was in Geostorm. Initech Nov 2018 #19

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
6. Are you familiar with numerous laws Teflon Don intorduced, which create greenhouse gasses?
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 11:04 AM
Nov 2018

Last edited Mon Nov 19, 2018, 12:15 PM - Edit history (1)

Polar ice-caps are melting at an alarming rate.
Forest fires in California and other states not only create more greenhouse gasses but are also expected to increase insurance rates on a national level.
Trump and his congress also allowed coal-burning power plants, which were obsolete, because they do not comply with reasonable emission standards, to reopen, without making federally mandated upgrades.

Celerity

(43,365 posts)
2. well......................
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 10:47 AM
Nov 2018


Trump’s Christian Policy Adviser Believes He Single-Handedly Stopped a Tsunami and Healed Cancer

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/frank-amedia-trump-christian-policy-adviser-believes-he-stopped-tsunami/

Last week, Time reported that Frank Amedia, a televangelist, had recently organized a meeting between Donald Trump and Hispanic evangelicals. The magazine noted that Amedia was the Trump campaign’s new “liaison on Christian policy.” What the story did not mention was that Amedia is a faith-healing pastor and self-described “apostle” and “prophet” who claims to have healed cancer with the power of prayer, calls AIDS the result of “unnatural sex,” and says he once stopped a tsunami by appealing to Jesus.

Amedia is a former Jew who says he found God through an encounter with Jesus in 1980. He runs the Ohio-based Touch Heaven Ministries, an international ministry with affiliated churches in Africa and Asia, and he is a frequent presence on Christian TV networks. He appears daily on the evangelical Daystar network and occasionally on the Trinity Broadcasting Network and the North American version of Isaac TV, a Pakistan-based evangelical network that airs Christian broadcasting across several Asian countries.


Permanut

(5,608 posts)
9. Thanks for the tip on this clown, Celerity..
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 11:19 AM
Nov 2018

I like to keep track of what the wacko Bible thumping cult members are up to. And there's a bunch of 'em. Hadn't heard of this one though.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
18. As an agnostic, willing to protect ANY religion, I appreciate a lack of attacks on Christianity...
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 01:44 PM
Nov 2018

In New Mexico, where we voted almost solid Blue, lots of voters are devout Christians. At DU, we need actual Christians to realize that reply and Opening Post writers respect the Right to Worship! Most politicians, including Democrats, in the USA, claim they are Christians.

Permanut

(5,608 posts)
25. Point taken..
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 11:10 PM
Nov 2018

Freedom of religion includes all religions, or no religion. My concern is not about what people believe, but about what they do. It becomes critical when members of a particular religion are in a position to impose their beliefs on others. That situation is strongly implied in the case of Frank Amedia.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
29. Here's a funnier point and a great X-mas present for DU writers/ reporters:
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 04:13 AM
Nov 2018

We can hang on truly good Opening Posts, along with anti-Pelosi/ new Democrat in the House and especially advertisements for Fox corp, which hide great, but shy writers from being read at Democratic Underground. Be sure to bookmark this link.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211449946



Merry X-Mas,
from Beetlejuice

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
30. God, these people are everywhere now. Pakistan??!!?
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 08:55 AM
Nov 2018

I have a visceral hatred of Evangelicals. Their agenda is frightening.

malaise

(268,998 posts)
3. Who the eff gives a shit about his opinion
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 10:49 AM
Nov 2018

Some of us deal in facts.
He's an ignorant buffoon on steroids.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
10. Plenty of racist & evangelicals believe his opinions are divine...
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 11:19 AM
Nov 2018

And, most of his Tweets are an indication that he is on more potent drugs than steroids. Perhaps Teflon Don is combining LSD with methadrine, which creates delusions, paranoia, and extremely aggressive behavior.

at140

(6,110 posts)
26. Only because he is occupying the White House and has
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 11:13 PM
Nov 2018

the power of veto pen. Otherwise no one would give a damn about him.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
27. As an agnostic, willing to defend ANY kind of worship; I want to DAMN DON TO HELL, but...
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 11:18 PM
Nov 2018

Does "hell" exist? Anyone, who is religious - IN ANY WAY - please realize the U.S. Constitution is the Bible of Jeffersons Ghost. I created the name "Jeffersons Ghost, when George W. Bush JUNIOR, abolished the 4th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. I am not Jeffersons Ghost 1, or some other copy-cat. I've been around much longer than my profile indicates. When D.U. was hacked, my "older archives were destroyed and the date that I joined D.U. was changed. At Democratic Underground, I endorsed Senator Russ Feingold for president, because he was the ONLY member of the Senate or House, willing to defend the 4th Amendment. Then, "Georgie "W" Girl" outed the entire N.S.A. as Dickless Cheney outed Valerie Plame and her entire CIA cell, in Washington DC. Later, I supported John Kerry, because - like me - he was a Navy veteran, from the Vietnam War.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
4. The wacko
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 10:55 AM
Nov 2018

evangelist did say their GAWD selected him because of the "end days" besides other things such as pro-life and hating POC.

Think about it, "pro-life" and "end days".


Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
23. Do you mean "God" of Abraham? It's too close to the holidays to offend Jews, Christians and Muslims
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 07:18 PM
Nov 2018

Because the Jewish calendar is not synchronized with the Roman calendar, Hanukkah is celebrated on different days each year, which usually include December 25, or Christmas, when Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus. However, 22 years ago, in a rare coincidence, the Muslim month of Ramadan was also celebrated at the same time, an occasion that inspired one small Israeli cultural center to establish a special feast: the Holiday of Holidays.

Ever since, Haifa's Beit Hagefen has celebrated coexistence between Jews, Muslims and Christians.

Occasionally, the Winter Solstice occurs on Christmas; but this year various religions, including Pagan worshipers, will celebrate the shortest period of daylight and the longest night of the year on December 21, 2018.

All of these religious festivals fall relatively close together

As an unbiased agnostic I can't understand why three very large religious groups that worship the same God of Abraham, continue to fight to the death.










Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
28. In an effort to not disgrace ancient religions, let me add:
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 01:26 AM
Nov 2018

In the Mesopotamian pantheon of deities, the great Sumerian, god Anu, was the ruler of the sky (aka Heaven) and later Assyrians worshiped a weather god named Adad. These deities were the first recorded (on cuniform clay-tablets, found at ancient archeological sites, in Tigris/ Euphrates region, of the Mid-East) which present a Father/ Sun God relationship.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
15. Is the new religion called "Trumpism? As for his approach to other religions, read this:
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 12:30 PM
Nov 2018
Treating protest as terrorism': US plans crackdown on Keystone XL activists
The Guardian

Angeline Cheek is preparing for disaster. The indigenous organizer from the Fort Peck reservation in Montana fears that the proposed Keystone XL pipeline could break and spill, destroy her tribe’s water, and desecrate sacred Native American sites. But environmental catastrophe is not the most immediate threat.

The government has characterized pipeline opponents like her as “extremists” and violent criminals and warned of potential “terrorism”, according to recently released records.

The documents suggested that police were organizing to launch an aggressive response to possible Keystone protests, echoing the actions against the Standing Rock movement in North Dakota. There, officers engaged in intense surveillance and faced widespread accusations of excessive force and brutality.

“We have to stay one step ahead at all times,” said Cheek, a Hunkpapa and Oglala Lakota activist and teacher. “History is repeating itself.”

Local Native Americans call the oil pipeline the ‘black snake’

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
24. As Fox does, TV preachers, who keep Republican flocks in line, make me wish there was a Hell
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 09:24 PM
Nov 2018

Followers of Teflon Don are racists, hypocrites, religious zealots, income tax-dodgers, Nazis and Klu Klux Klan members, who have the audacity to carry and burn crosses. As for me, to show respect for professional football players, who protested Trump, earlier this year, during the National Anthem, I'd rather burn a flag!

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
12. For more Trump idiocy read this recent Trump comment on CA fires:
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 11:56 AM
Nov 2018

Donald Trump mistakenly called the wildfire-ravaged town of Paradise, “Pleasure”, as he visited the site of California’s deadliest ever blaze.

Touring the area over the weekend alongside the state’s outgoing and incoming governors, Jerry Brown and Gavin Newsom, the US president twice used the wrong name for the town where most of the 77 people known to have died so far have come from.

“You’re watching from New York or you’re watching from Washington, DC, and you don’t really see the gravity of it,” he said.

“Or Paradise,” Mr Trump added. “And what we just saw at Paradise is just, is just not acceptable.”

He was then interrupted by the crowd, who corrected him.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-paradise-pleasure-california-wildfires-malibu-woolsey-fire-a8640656.html

After again blaming the fires on "mismanagement of Federal funding" Trump insisted he had not changed his mind on climate change after visiting the town in northern California.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
14. Your quote doesn't show the actual error he made; here it is 'corrected'
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 12:02 PM
Nov 2018
“I mean, as big as they look on the tube, you don’t see what’s going on until you come here. And what we saw at Pleasure [sic]—what a name, right now—but what we just saw, we just left Pleasure [corrected off-camera]...or Paradise. And what we saw at Paradise is just—it's just not acceptable.” Trump appeared alongside California governor Jerry Brown, who visibly winced at the error.


https://www.newsweek.com/video-donald-trump-tours-burnt-out-town-paradise-calls-it-pleasure-what-name-1221373
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
20. OMG.
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 02:40 PM
Nov 2018

He can't even get that simple fact correct. The entire visit was just one big disaster. How did this loser ever get to be president?

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
22. Trump-trolls hacked electronic voting machines...
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 03:31 PM
Nov 2018

And bribed members of the Electoral College made sure we had a Republican President and Senate.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
16. Only one step more before he begins blaming
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 01:31 PM
Nov 2018

Only one step more before he begins blaming the weather on Chinese satellites...

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
17. Your post made me laugh,
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 01:39 PM
Nov 2018

I swear to Gaia, that back in the 50's I remember my grandma saying that the spell of bad weather we were having was because of the Russians shooting rockets up into the air.

Initech

(100,075 posts)
19. The only time I've ever seen the president control the weather was in Geostorm.
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 01:55 PM
Nov 2018

And that was a really shitty movie!

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