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Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 06:36 PM Aug 2012

Fareed Zakaria Cleared By Time, CNN In Plagiarism Investigation



Fareed Zakaria is off the hook at both Time magazine and CNN after he was admitted plagiarizing a New Yorker column last Friday.

-snip-

Time announced Thursday that upon investigating Zakaria's columns, it has determined that the transgression was "an unintentional error" and "an isolated incident." A spokesperson for the magazine said:

We have completed a thorough review of each of Fareed Zakaria’s columns for TIME, and we are entirely satisfied that the language in question in his recent column was an unintentional error and an isolated incident for which he has apologized. We look forward to having Fareed's thoughtful and important voice back in the magazine with his next column in the issue that comes out on September 7.


Later, CNN also announced that it has cleared Zakaria in its investigation. He will return on August 26.

Full article here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/16/fareed-zakaria-time-columns-review_n_1792081.html



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Fareed Zakaria Cleared By Time, CNN In Plagiarism Investigation (Original Post) Tx4obama Aug 2012 OP
Never listened to a more even handed, insightful, unprejudiced, and intelligent person on the tv. nt 2on2u Aug 2012 #1
and an admitted plagiarist. some people get fired for it. i guess the 'elect' don't, same as HiPointDem Aug 2012 #3
If he'd only keep it to a four paragraph maximum.... and put a little link thingy.... seems to 2on2u Aug 2012 #4
you're comparing journalists to chatroom participants? really? HiPointDem Aug 2012 #10
I'm comparing copyrighted material to copyrighted material. You? n't 2on2u Aug 2012 #11
zakaria didn't quote with attribution. he minimally paraphased large chunks of someone else's HiPointDem Aug 2012 #12
Yes, I understand that..... like I said if only he used to four paragraph max with attributes. n't 2on2u Aug 2012 #13
what I saw was mostly just stating stats, years, facts. Whisp Aug 2012 #15
baloney. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #16
Yeah, if he hadn't rewritten it to try to hide it, and if he had put in a link, he'd have been OK muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #14
Good. Glad to hear it. eom Maeve Aug 2012 #2
he's still a plagiarist, whether he gets a pass or not. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #5
It could be isolated, but there's no way that is 'unintentional' muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #7
I agree. Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #8
Yep, I agree too twins.fan Aug 2012 #17
Good. Now let's move on. Major Hogwash Aug 2012 #6
Here's his statement. lightcameron Aug 2012 #9
1. Zakaria apologized for what, then? 2. The two passages show blatant plagiarism CabCurious Aug 2012 #18
doubly not his work, then. plagiarized & ghost-written (ghost-plagiarized). HiPointDem Aug 2012 #19
Exactly, but I feel this has lessened him and journalism CabCurious Aug 2012 #20
I'm glad to hear he was reinstated davidpdx Aug 2012 #21
Maybe now Zakaria can get on with pimping the next war (Iran), in his coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #22
 

2on2u

(1,843 posts)
1. Never listened to a more even handed, insightful, unprejudiced, and intelligent person on the tv. nt
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 07:01 PM
Aug 2012
 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
3. and an admitted plagiarist. some people get fired for it. i guess the 'elect' don't, same as
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 07:06 PM
Aug 2012

everything else.

 

2on2u

(1,843 posts)
4. If he'd only keep it to a four paragraph maximum.... and put a little link thingy.... seems to
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 07:08 PM
Aug 2012

have worked for almost 50,000,000 messages I know of.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
12. zakaria didn't quote with attribution. he minimally paraphased large chunks of someone else's
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 07:48 PM
Aug 2012

article & passed it off as his own writing.

working-class journalists get fired for it.

 

2on2u

(1,843 posts)
13. Yes, I understand that..... like I said if only he used to four paragraph max with attributes. n't
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 07:49 PM
Aug 2012
 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
15. what I saw was mostly just stating stats, years, facts.
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 07:57 PM
Aug 2012

and not really 'writing'.

I'd give him a pass on this too, and I'm glad others saw it that way.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
16. baloney.
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 08:07 PM
Aug 2012

Last edited Thu Aug 16, 2012, 08:44 PM - Edit history (1)

Zakaria’s piece:

Adam Winkler, a professor of constitutional law at UCLA, documents the actual history in Gunfight: The Battle over the Right to Bear Arms in America. Guns were regulated in the U.S. from the earliest years of the Republic. Laws that banned the carrying of concealed weapons were passed in Kentucky and Louisiana in 1813. Other states soon followed: Indiana in 1820, Tennessee and Virginia in 1838, Alabama in 1839 and Ohio in 1859. Similar laws were passed in Texas, Florida and Oklahoma. As the governor of Texas (Texas!) explained in 1893, the “mission of the concealed deadly weapon is murder. To check it is the duty of every self-respecting, law-abiding man.

Compare that with this section from Lepore’s article:

As Adam Winkler, a constitutional-law scholar at U.C.L.A., demonstrates in a remarkably nuanced new book, “Gunfight: The Battle Over the Right to Bear Arms in America,” firearms have been regulated in the United States from the start. Laws banning the carrying of concealed weapons were passed in Kentucky and Louisiana in 1813, and other states soon followed: Indiana (1820), Tennessee and Virginia (1838), Alabama (1839), and Ohio (1859). Similar laws were passed in Texas, Florida, and Oklahoma. As the governor of Texas explained in 1893, the “mission of the concealed deadly weapon is murder. To check it is the duty of every self-respecting, law-abiding man.


A statement from Zakaria:

“Media reporters have pointed out that paragraphs (multiple, not just the one in the example above) in my Time column this week bear close similarities to paragraphs in Jill Lepore’s essay in the April 23rd issue of The New Yorker. They are right. I made a terrible mistake. It is a serious lapse and one that is entirely my fault. I apologize unreservedly to her, to my editors at Time, and to my readers.”



He calls it a "serious lapse," but you say it's just a negligible list of statistics.

he's a fucking plagiarist and cheat, but i guess if you're council of foreign relations with a good pedigree cheating is irrelevant.


His father, Rafiq Zakaria, was a politician associated with the Indian National Congress (deputy to Indira Gandhi, the leader of the Congress Party, in the Lok Sabha. Zakaria represented India abroad, including at the United Nations in 1965, 1990 and 1996.)

His mother, Fatima Zakaria, was for a time the editor of the Sunday Times of India.

Zakaria attended the Cathedral and John Connon School (The Cathedral and John Connon School is a co-educational, private school located in Mumbai... Established in 1860, it is one of the oldest schools in India....has been ranked first in the all India ranking of the best schools in India... It is a partner school to Bancroft's School... a co-educational independent school in London... founded in 1737...)

He received a Bachelor of Arts from Yale University, where he was president of the Yale Political Union, editor-in-chief of the Yale Political Monthly, a member of the Scroll and Key society, and a member of the Party of the Right.

He later earned a Doctor of Philosophy in political science from Harvard University in 1993, where he studied under Samuel P. Huntington and Stanley Hoffmann, as well as international relations theorist Robert Keohane...

Zakaria became managing editor of Foreign Affairs magazine in 1992. In October 2000, he was named editor of Newsweek International... moving from Newsweek to Time magazine, to serve as contributing editor...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fareed_Zakaria
http://www.cfr.org/about/membership/roster.html?letter=Z


From a distance I’ve always vaguely admired the skills of Newsweek’s Fareed Zakaria, who is maybe this country’s preeminent propagandist. Any writer who doesn’t admire what this guy does is probably not being honest with himself, because being the public face of conventional wisdom is an extremely difficult job – and as a man of letters Zakaria routinely succeeds, or pseudo-succeeds, at the most seemingly impossible literary tasks, making the sensational seem dull, the outrageous commonplace, and rendering horrifying absolutes ambiguous and full of gray areas.

Whereas most writers grow up dreaming of using their talents to stir up the passions, to inflame and amuse and inspire, Zakaria shoots for the opposite effect, taking controversial and explosive topics and trying to help rattled readers somehow navigate... to yawns, lower heart rates, and states of benign unconcern.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/taibbi6.1.1.html

muriel_volestrangler

(106,211 posts)
14. Yeah, if he hadn't rewritten it to try to hide it, and if he had put in a link, he'd have been OK
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 07:53 PM
Aug 2012

DU copyright rules mean the original author is always acknowledged. DUers have got in trouble for plagiarism - papau was one, several years ago.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
5. he's still a plagiarist, whether he gets a pass or not.
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 07:11 PM
Aug 2012
Zakaria’s piece:

Adam Winkler, a professor of constitutional law at UCLA, documents the actual history in Gunfight: The Battle over the Right to Bear Arms in America. Guns were regulated in the U.S. from the earliest years of the Republic. Laws that banned the carrying of concealed weapons were passed in Kentucky and Louisiana in 1813. Other states soon followed: Indiana in 1820, Tennessee and Virginia in 1838, Alabama in 1839 and Ohio in 1859. Similar laws were passed in Texas, Florida and Oklahoma. As the governor of Texas (Texas!) explained in 1893, the “mission of the concealed deadly weapon is murder. To check it is the duty of every self-respecting, law-abiding man.

Compare that with this section from Lepore’s article:

As Adam Winkler, a constitutional-law scholar at U.C.L.A., demonstrates in a remarkably nuanced new book, “Gunfight: The Battle Over the Right to Bear Arms in America,” firearms have been regulated in the United States from the start. Laws banning the carrying of concealed weapons were passed in Kentucky and Louisiana in 1813, and other states soon followed: Indiana (1820), Tennessee and Virginia (1838), Alabama (1839), and Ohio (1859). Similar laws were passed in Texas, Florida, and Oklahoma. As the governor of Texas explained in 1893, the “mission of the concealed deadly weapon is murder. To check it is the duty of every self-respecting, law-abiding man.


A statement from Zakaria:

“Media reporters have pointed out that paragraphs in my Time column this week bear close similarities to paragraphs in Jill Lepore’s essay in the April 23rd issue of The New Yorker. They are right. I made a terrible mistake. It is a serious lapse and one that is entirely my fault. I apologize unreservedly to her, to my editors at Time, and to my readers.”

A statement from Time:

“Time accepts Fareed’s apology, but what he did violates our own standards for our columnists, which is that their work must not only be factual but original; their views must not only be their own but their words as well. As a result, we are suspending Fareed’s column for a month, pending further review.”

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/fareed-zakaria-might-have-plagiarized-the-new-yorker_b65972


he got a pass because he's a made man. lesser mortals get fired.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,211 posts)
7. It could be isolated, but there's no way that is 'unintentional'
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 07:33 PM
Aug 2012

It's all there, just with strategic word changes. It reads as if someone has revised their own work for style purposes. I agree with you - he's got a pass.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
8. I agree.
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 07:36 PM
Aug 2012

It was a few days after this was announced before I saw the two copies. When I did I said, "yeah, that's plagiarism."

lightcameron

(224 posts)
9. Here's his statement.
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 07:39 PM
Aug 2012
Earlier, TIME announced:

We have completed a thorough review of each of Fareed Zakaria’s columns for TIME, and we are entirely satisfied that the language in question in his recent column was an unintentional error and an isolated incident for which he has apologized. We look forward to having Fareed's thoughtful and important voice back in the magazine with his next column in the issue that comes out on September 7.


In response, I would like to say that TIME has completed a thorough review of each of my columns for TIME, and they are entirely satisfied that the language in question in my recent column was an unintentional error and an isolated incident for which I have apologized. They look forward to having my thoughtful and important voice back in the magazine with my next column in the issue that comes out on September 7.

CabCurious

(954 posts)
18. 1. Zakaria apologized for what, then? 2. The two passages show blatant plagiarism
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 09:32 PM
Aug 2012

As Adam Winkler, a constitutional-law scholar at U.C.L.A., demonstrates in a remarkably nuanced new book, "Gunfight: The Battle Over the Right to Bear Arms in America," firearms have been regulated in the United States from the start. Laws banning the carrying of concealed weapons were passed in Kentucky and Louisiana in 1813, and other states soon followed: Indiana (1820), Tennessee and Virginia (1838), Alabama (1839), and Ohio (1859). Similar laws were passed in Texas, Florida, and Oklahoma. As the governor of Texas explained in 1893, the "mission of the concealed deadly weapon is murder. To check it is the duty of every self-respecting, law-abiding man."


The blatant plagiarism:

Adam Winkler, a professor of constitutional law at UCLA, documents the actual history in Gunfight: The Battle over the Right to Bear Arms in America. Guns were regulated in the U.S. from the earliest years of the Republic. Laws that banned the carrying of concealed weapons were passed in Kentucky and Louisiana in 1813. Other states soon followed: Indiana in 1820, Tennessee and Virginia in 1838, Alabama in 1839 and Ohio in 1859. Similar laws were passed in Texas, Florida and Oklahoma. As the governor of Texas (Texas!) explained in 1893, the "mission of the concealed deadly weapon is murder. To check it is the duty of every self-respecting, law-abiding man."


I respect that this wasn't an academic piece, but somebody spent time and effort rewriting that to be slightly different.

My guess is that Zakaria has a lot of others working for him with the increasing number of publications and projects. This could have been a ghost writer or an intern, which may explain the quick "clearance of wrongdoing" by those with a commercial interest in his brand name.

I personally respect the man, but I respect his apology... not this cover-up.
 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
19. doubly not his work, then. plagiarized & ghost-written (ghost-plagiarized).
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 01:24 AM
Aug 2012

This is another thing -- like zakaria has time to write all the stuff he's credited for. Like many other big names, he has ghostwriters that do 90% of the work & never get credit.

The average joe just figures these people are remarkably productive and that's why they're where they are, cause they work so frigging hard.

The guy is a winger/neoliberal. I don't respect him.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
21. I'm glad to hear he was reinstated
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 03:27 AM
Aug 2012

I have watched his program for quite awhile and find the stories though provoking. If you don't like him, fine. It doesn't mean you have to scream and bully people like your opinion means more than others.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
22. Maybe now Zakaria can get on with pimping the next war (Iran), in his
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 03:34 AM
Aug 2012

own words of course. After the way he whored for the war in Iraq, plagiarism is the least of his journalistic sins, imo.

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