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4du

(56 posts)
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 04:19 PM Nov 2018

Happy Thanksgiving DU, it may be our last

We know Donald Trump is crazy and breaks norms without a second thought. We also know he hates being criticized, which on occasion will occur here. Everything he does points to the fact he would love to be a dictator and silence his critics. We believe it can not happen here, but sadly it can. First, the Constitutional foundation.

The President's cabinet has no legal definition. It is only mentioned briefly in the Constitution, in Article 2, Section 2 with the words "he [The President] may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices" and in Section 3: "The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session." The Cabinet is also mentioned in the 25th Amendment "Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President." The action of the VP is also required for this to occur.

Our madman President has revealed his attitude towards murder and power in his response to the murder of Khashoggi. Over the Recess of the Senate, for the holidays, Trump fires the Secretary of Defense (as he has the power to do at his pleasure.) He then appoints himself acting Secretary of Defense and AG (or keeps a compliant Matthew Whitaker).

A false flag terrorist incident which results in the death of the Vice-President takes place and Trump declares a national emergency. He tells his supporters (who love the second Amendment) to take into custody all government officials who have committed treason by resisting him. Then as Commander-in-Chief and head of the DOJ, he orders the military and law enforcement to stand down and not interfere with his patriotic supporters. It is done.

Bye-bye DU

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Happy Thanksgiving DU, it may be our last (Original Post) 4du Nov 2018 OP
Also your first. Happy Thanksgiving cheerful. Keep smiling through. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2018 #1
Oh boy! I love fan fiction! Iggo Nov 2018 #2
List your gratitude WhiteTara Nov 2018 #3
"I am an old man," Mark Twain wrote, "I am an old man and have known many troubles . . . Journeyman Nov 2018 #4
I did not say this was going to happen, but it could happen 4du Nov 2018 #9
Given Don the Con got in, someone worse could come along, possibly. Everyone said he did not RKP5637 Nov 2018 #13
Thank you, this was meant to cause people to think 4du Nov 2018 #14
Yes, we must. Far too many Americans take the democracy of the US for granted. It always RKP5637 Nov 2018 #17
Alex Jones, is that you? sarcasmo Nov 2018 #5
Equal time 4du Nov 2018 #12
I'm not sure in which of your paragraphs should be inserted: SCantiGOP Nov 2018 #6
Thank God we won the House in 2018 4du Nov 2018 #10
Military officers take an oath SCantiGOP Nov 2018 #24
Did you have hard cider at Thanksgiving? dameatball Nov 2018 #7
No hard cider for me 4du Nov 2018 #16
Gunga? I will have to google that. My response was in jest. Hate to see that scenario. dameatball Nov 2018 #21
Pot as in mary-jane 4du Nov 2018 #22
Think he means Ganga SCantiGOP Nov 2018 #25
Lol, that was the first thing I thought of but there are also some definitions of gunga which dameatball Nov 2018 #26
I'll bet you $1,000,000 that doesn't happen. Takket Nov 2018 #8
I do not think it will happen 4du Nov 2018 #11
Since most of his gun owning supporters would stroke out trying to run 100 yards GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #15
Never knew Jade Helm existed 4du Nov 2018 #20
Relax. We have the House. We have checks and balances. Build for 2020 and vote him out. LBM20 Nov 2018 #18
Yes workinclasszero Nov 2018 #23
lulz obamanut2012 Nov 2018 #19
Next Thanksgiving: Turbineguy Nov 2018 #27

WhiteTara

(31,154 posts)
3. List your gratitude
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 04:32 PM
Nov 2018

if you think it might never happen again. Make a big list and then sit with gratitude for awhile. You'll feel better if you think about things that make you happy.

Journeyman

(15,417 posts)
4. "I am an old man," Mark Twain wrote, "I am an old man and have known many troubles . . .
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 04:37 PM
Nov 2018
. . . most of which never happened."


If it's all the same to you 4du, I'll content myself with the problems of the day and leave idle speculation to you and the others who seemingly need it to make sense of what's before them.
 

4du

(56 posts)
9. I did not say this was going to happen, but it could happen
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 04:49 PM
Nov 2018

Which of us thought we would ever have a President like Don the Con. Why do you think all those RW Nuts have their guns "to defend the Constitution" as DJT says it is, ie No Judicial Review. It can happen here.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
13. Given Don the Con got in, someone worse could come along, possibly. Everyone said he did not
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 05:14 PM
Nov 2018

stand a chance ... that worked well.

 

4du

(56 posts)
14. Thank you, this was meant to cause people to think
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 05:32 PM
Nov 2018

Nothing is impossible, and we must always be on guard

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
17. Yes, we must. Far too many Americans take the democracy of the US for granted. It always
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 05:44 PM
Nov 2018

stuns me how many can't be bothered to vote, and again how many are stunningly clueless as to what it going on ... and how many don't even vaguely have an idea of how government works.

SCantiGOP

(14,647 posts)
6. I'm not sure in which of your paragraphs should be inserted:
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 04:39 PM
Nov 2018

...At which point the leaders of Congress and the military step in and arrest Trump.

 

4du

(56 posts)
10. Thank God we won the House in 2018
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 04:56 PM
Nov 2018

A Republican Congress would never step in. Military officers by training and belief MUST follow orders and can not step in. Who would order them to do so?

SCantiGOP

(14,647 posts)
24. Military officers take an oath
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 07:32 PM
Nov 2018

To defend the country and the Constitution. And, it is established in US and international law that a member of the military is required to not obey an illegal order.

 

4du

(56 posts)
16. No hard cider for me
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 05:41 PM
Nov 2018

I am an expat who really did move to a tropical island paradise when Trump was elected. We have no hard cider here, but we do have a lot of really good gunga.

dameatball

(7,649 posts)
21. Gunga? I will have to google that. My response was in jest. Hate to see that scenario.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 06:42 PM
Nov 2018

dameatball

(7,649 posts)
26. Lol, that was the first thing I thought of but there are also some definitions of gunga which
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 08:19 PM
Nov 2018

involve fermented fruits.

 

4du

(56 posts)
11. I do not think it will happen
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 05:01 PM
Nov 2018

But watch the news with DJT, did you ever think he could happen. Go to "Free Republic" there are some really crazy people there. They would think my little story would be wonderful if it became real.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
15. Since most of his gun owning supporters would stroke out trying to run 100 yards
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 05:35 PM
Nov 2018

Those not on Hoverounds. And those that did rise up would be shot dead by the men and women defending them. And the fact liberals own guns as well.

I’ll chalk up this post to too much bourbon on thanksgiving.

But it was a fun read. As was all the stuff written about Operation Jade Helm.

Have a nice thanksgiving.

 

LBM20

(1,580 posts)
18. Relax. We have the House. We have checks and balances. Build for 2020 and vote him out.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 05:46 PM
Nov 2018
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
23. Yes
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 07:21 PM
Nov 2018

Trump and his damned party are scared shitless over the coming dem House and Nancy Pelosi.

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