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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsScary. Is this the start of business microtargeting people's social media behaviour online?
If so they have flipped the concept of goodwill on its' ass.
Link to tweet
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And this:
Bloomberg: Beijing To Start 'Rating' Every Citizen By 2020
By Nicole Belle
https://crooksandliars.com/2018/11/bloomberg-beijing-start-rating-every/amp?__twitter_impression=true
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Chinas plan to judge each of its 1.3 billion people based on their social behavior is moving a step closer to reality, with Beijing set to adopt a lifelong points program by 2021 that assigns personalized ratings for each resident.
The capital city will pool data from several departments to reward and punish some 22 million citizens based on their actions and reputations by the end of 2020, according to a plan posted on the Beijing municipal governments website on Monday. Those with better so-called social credit will get green channel benefits while those who violate laws will find life more difficult.
The Beijing project will improve blacklist systems so that those deemed untrustworthy will be unable to move even a single step, according to the governments plan. Xinhua reported on the proposal Tuesday, while the report posted on the municipal governments website is dated July 18.
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What should we call it? "Badwill" instead of goodwill?
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Gun Control: New York Wants to Make You Submit Social Media History Before Purchasing Gun
https://www.newsweek.com/gun-control-new-york-wants-make-you-submit-social-media-history-purchasing-1228579
applegrove
(118,600 posts)UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)struggle4progress
(118,273 posts)wondering if you should really be able to have a gun! What's next? Persecuting people for harmless little bomb hoaxes?"
kcr
(15,315 posts)The internet is magic, so you can do whatever you want. It's super duper protected by a whole bunch of constitutional amendments that don't apply to regular stuff out in the real world in the same way. It's amazing.
ETA since it was a comparison, I thought it was searching a person's posting history. I don't think requiring handing in passwords is the same thing. I still think it was a ridiculous comparison, but guns
MarvinGardens
(779 posts)Does it? Any one of those would be a problem. This smacks of "surveillance state" to me, something we should not be defending here. And what if someone has no social media accounts on the platforms mentioned? I fit that category. Would I be denied a gun permit for that reason?
kcr
(15,315 posts)People better lock down their accounts or it's going to get awfully smelly.
obamanut2012
(26,064 posts)erronis
(15,222 posts)apparatus.
Aeroflot does nothing without direction from the Kremlin.
Of course the layers of oligarchs that own most industry within the rUSSRia are partners with putin and pay plenty to make him one of the wealthiest on the planet. That's why the US pResident gets so lustful when around that type of power.
Gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme, ...
erronis
(15,222 posts)Don't know much of the background other than reported in NYT, etc.
But amazed you're still kicking, and landing a few in the groin.
brooklynite
(94,489 posts)If a company attempted this in the United States, their market share would plummet.
applegrove
(118,600 posts)barely get covered.
Xolodno
(6,390 posts)...people have been sued for giving a negative review. So, they may be taking a page out of our own book.
Celerity
(43,288 posts)https://www.howtogeek.com/352302/can-you-get-sued-for-leaving-a-bad-review/
The reality is that anyone can sue anyone at any time for any thing. Frivolous lawsuits are a real thing. PETA has spent seven years suing a photographer on behalf of a monkey. This means that if you annoy a company enough, they can lawyer up and get a court date. You might win, but it could still end up costing you a lot of time and money.
Specifically, people have been sued in the past for leaving bad reviews. In some casesand well explore some examplesthe company has won. In others, like this case where an Edmonton man left a one star review for a tech company that didnt call him back, the company never follows through with their threat. In yet more, such as this one where a student left a negative review of a law firm that came into her bedroom while she was sleeping in her underwear, the person being sued has won and the company has had to pay their legal fees$27,000 in this instance.
The big takeaway is that, whatever the result ends up being, companies have sued people for leaving bad reviews. Even if the case ends up being thrown out by a judge, it still cant have been a fun few months for the people involved while everything was going on. And unless you win and get reimbursement for legal fees, youre still out whatever money you paid to your lawyer.
Reviews Are Protected By the First Amendment To a Point
In the US, reviews are protected by the First Amendment, which covers freedom of speech. To back this up, Congress passed a law in 2016 called the Consumer Review Fairness Act, which made it illegal for companies to add terms to their contracts that banned customers from posting negative reviewsor fined them if they do. These terms were becoming increasingly common at the time.
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lindysalsagal
(20,648 posts)afford to take them on. Hence, scorched-earth cancer-causing mining in West Virginia. No matter how many people die from cancer, there are always more corporate lawyers who can minimize the expensive payoffs and locals will continue to go along to get along.
MarvinGardens
(779 posts)I guess it really was near-future.
applegrove
(118,600 posts)MarvinGardens
(779 posts)Worth watching if you have Netflix. The episodes take place in societies that have a bit more advanced technology than ours... but not that much more advanced. E.g. no flying cars. Some are a bit more far out than others. Early episodes were British but some of the newer ones use American actors. Many focus on the consequences of taking social media, or ubiquitous recording of our interactions, too far. Not all are completely dystopian. Some have happy endings.
applegrove
(118,600 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,648 posts)At that point, only the largest multi-national corporations will know the "truth" about anything.
And we'll be living in global fascism.
Thank you, George Orwell, for trying.