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[Autumn]

1. I will miss his photographs.

[htuttle]

2. I think a lot of us would like to know where we can see future photos by him

Like a gallery, etc.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

7. He gave me a list of where his photos can be seen.

They are: 500PX, Instagram, and Flickr too. And he does post on Facebook.

He will eventually have his own website.

[Raine]

30. Thank you Peggy

for posting this info..

[mountain grammy]

31. Thank you Peggy.

I love his photos..

[Liberty Belle]

176. ARe they under DemoTex or another name?

[CaliforniaPeggy]

183. Facebook is under his own name. I'll PM it to you.

[Hekate]

3. Thanks, CP. Give him my best wishes...

...and tell him he will be missed.

[MrsCoffee]

4. What a shame.

I loved his posts and photos.

[blm]

5. Here

Hurts my heart when those who are the best of us leave.

[GP6971]

6. I'm very sorry to hear this.

Can you PM me where we can find him?

[CaliforniaPeggy]

9. See my post #7 for places.

[GP6971]

10. Many thanks!! n/t

[byronius]

8. Well, that's just crappy.

Goddamn it.

[Grasswire2]

11. I didn't understand why.

Missed it all.

[Susan Calvin]

83. Me too.

I would like to know. I tend to doubt it was for trivial reasons.

[Honeycombe8]

199. Me, too. I wonder what happened? nt

[SixString]

12. I always looked forward to his fire lookout posts.

And enjoyed his photography.

He will be missed.

[peacebuzzard]

28. Those were memorable

I will miss him.

[struggle4progress]

46. Yes

[SixString]

69. As someone who doesn't get out much,

His posts meant a lot to me.

[pintobean]

13. I think that decision was made for him.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=102963

I'm not judging, though. This place has changed a lot in the last couple of years.

[Brother Buzz]

24. Six OP's in three hours with six jury hides translates to Flagged for Review

OP HELP. I AM BEING HELD HOSTAGE BY A DU MODERATOR. DemoTex Yesterday Photography
OP HELP DemoTex Yesterday Community Help
OP PLEASE SHARE THIS! LOCKED AGAIN BY A VINDICTIVE MODERATOR ON GD! DemoTex Yesterday The DU Lounge
OP Well, I am back .. DemoTex Yesterday General Discussion
OP Looks like DemoTex is screwn DemoTex Yesterday The DU Lounge
OP Today, I started the process of leaving DU.

[pintobean]

61. Looks like a meltdown

He had people warning him all along the way.

[cwydro]

129. Helluva flameout.

Haven’t seen one like that in quite some time.

A shame.

[Pepsidog]

187. In the Trump era melt downs are not uncommon. He has disrupted all our lives.

[pintobean]

190. This wasn't about Trump.

[Honeycombe8]

204. But that means that something led to that.

His "help" posts weren't the initiating events, I take it? Maybe he was alerted on several times?

Anyway, wish he would have taken a break instead of going this long with a problem. Emotions have been high around here since the mid-terms. I've been the victim of some vicious attacks for things that, well, if I showed you, you'd be shocked that such an inoffensive post would elicit what came my way. Like I say, emotions and passions have been high lately.

Or maybe his photos were taking up too much bandwidth/space in the server?

Who knows.

[Botany]

14. Miss U already

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I hope you are happy.

One of your friends is still looking for you.

[Docreed2003]

15. Such a loss to this community

His photos will be missed. Do you know his Instagram handle?

[CaliforniaPeggy]

17. I don't but perhaps he will send it to me. If he does, I will send it on to you.

See my post #7 for places you can see him now.

[voteearlyvoteoften]

16. After 23,000 posts

Should get benefit if the doubt.

[area51]

18. DemoTex, I enjoyed your photographs.

I try to take pix but I'm afraid I'm only a point-and-shoot type of person at this stage.

[hlthe2b]

19. I wish him only the best and hope we'll hear about his website... Peggy, I just pm'd you.

to DemoTex, whose photography and photojournalism enthralled many of us for years.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

23. Got it and answered. n/t

[JohnnyLib2]

20. Rats. He brought a special perspective.

And great photographs. Jeeeez.

[marlakay]

21. I missed original thread

So don’t understand what happened but sorry to see him go.

This place has changed so much since 2015 when primaries got heated. Makes me sad.

[gademocrat7]

22. Enjoyed his photos.

I am sorry he is no longer here.

[ms liberty]

25. I am not happy about this at all, but I understand.

This place has changed. I will miss him!

[LAS14]

76. If you understand, could you explain it in plain English? Maybe a DUMail...

.. if it would violate some rule to explain it here?

[Susan Calvin]

84. Yes, please. nt

[peacebuzzard]

26. He's been here since kingdom come. I will miss his posts.

Maybe he will come back one day.
He moved to Belgium didn’t he?

[MadLinguist]

27. Don't know what the kerfuffle was about, but sorry to see you go DemoTex

The perspective brought thru (mostly) images was unique. I hope there is a chance that whatever the problem is can be resolved. If all the decent and legitimate posters keep leaving, we'll have a higher and higher ratio of trolls and rats. I hate to see this circle being broken!

[Raine]

29. Wishing him all the best...

I was hoping he would decide to stay.

[Kaleva]

32. His profile still shows that he's a member but is flagged for review

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Loved his pics. Have one as a desktop background. His posts were interesting and he'll be missed.

[progree]

54. People who are Flagged For Review cannot post

There is no "Active but Flagged For Review" status.

[Kaleva]

62. It's essentially being banned from DU w/o formally being banned

But you are right. DemoTex, while still technically a member of DU, cannot be an active member because his account has been flagged for review. I'll edit the heading in my previous post.

[Honeycombe8]

205. Like a timeout? nt

[KCDebbie]

82. He'll be flagged for review forever!

That's how they kick you off DU without actually kucking you off!

[ThoughtCriminal]

33. Geez, one of my favorites for many years

No idea what lead to this.

[Sedona]

34. Demotex will be sorely missed

Brilliant photographer, storyteller and friend of DU.

I don't know what happened but I'm sure he has a good reason.

[berni_mccoy]

35. I've been here a long time

Been on and off for periods of time.

I don’t like what happened to Will and I don’t like what happened to DemoTex.

This feels like “just another victory notch in Putin’s belt”. DUer’s should stop eating their own.

[leftstreet]

37. +1

[Stinky The Clown]

38. +1 more

[byronius]

39. +1

[sellitman]

42. + 1

Whoever had a part in his leaving should explain themselves.

DU is less without DemoTex

[bluestarone]

63. THIS

[7wo7rees]

74. 2nd THIS!! n/t

[Sherman A1]

195. +1

[RandiFan1290]

203. Amen. nt

[d_r]

152. Third nt

[Heartstrings]

168. Fourth....nt

[Gore1FL]

53. I don't know the details of either DemoTex or WP.

I joined the same day as Will, in 2001. Over the last almost 18 years, I've seen DU go through a lot of ups and downs. I don't think we recovered as a community from the great purge of 2016. Then and since then, we've lost a lot of good people forever. Oddly, there are people among us who still congratulate themselves or otherwise celebrate about that. Who needs Russian bots, right?

I don't know the future of DU. I suspect it will cruise along for some time. I submit, it would be a better ride if we listened and learned from each other more. I think we did that more when it was a smaller community.

I just knew WP didn't come here any more and now neither does DemoTex. (and I notice N2Doc is gone too.)

[Grasswire2]

122. Will Pitt has a very active FB presence

And many former and current members of DU participate on his page.

[efhmc]

143. To me, he was DU and was astonished when he was gone.

nt

[Grasswire2]

163. He's very well, and as brilliant and funny as ever.

Stopped smoking and got healthy after a scare more than a year ago.

[efhmc]

164. That is good to know.

Met once in Austin years ago.

[Grasswire2]

165. you know you can follow his writing on truthout.org

He's writing more pieces during this time.

[efhmc]

201. OK.

Never did understand what happened there.

[efhmc]

146. I really hate fb. I do not like its invasive

nature. Never have and never will participate there but thanks for the info.

[Honeycombe8]

209. There are a lot of WPs on FB.

Which one is he?

[xmas74]

67. I've almost completely stopped posting here.

There are far too many gone that I enjoyed and far too much fighting.

I no longer feel the camaraderie that I once felt here on DU. Once upon a time I spent all my time as a Lounge Lizard but now I'd be shocked if I even recognize one name. This is not the place that got me through the Bush years.

[Mike Rows His Boat]

73. Yep.

So many permanently put under review by Berniebot jurists. It scorched DU earth of some of DU's strongest and most thoughtful advocates. I come here just to read news now w/o much participation.

[Susan Calvin]

86. "Berniebot jurists"?

Explanation would be of interest.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

110. Trust me, it's not Berniebot jurists who are responsible

for the many flagged for review members.

I won't say more, simply because that could rile up the people who are the ones really responsible.

[Jim Lane]

125. You are correct on two counts.

First, the observation in your subject line is true.

Second, you are also correct that to adduce supporting evidence (of which there is plenty) would be dangerous.

[mnhtnbb]

135. Indeed.

I confine myself mostly to the Photography forum now. Been here since Bush years. We lost a lot of good photographers during the 2016 election process.

[Honeycombe8]

212. Was photography the problem? nt

[Honeycombe8]

210. I think I know.

I think.

[Crunchy Frog]

132. There's far too much suppression of dissenting views

and a witch-hunting atmosphere here now. Definitely not the same place.

[efhmc]

148. Agreed.

nt

[realmirage]

188. Yes there is very little tolerance for disagreement.

Definitely an authoritarian vibe. Ironic huh?

[efhmc]

145. Baby bush was what got me here. After 16 years, I was astounded

to have my first and only post removed because I related a negative Bernie event at the Texas convention and made personal anti-b comments about him, I was told I could not say things against a "Democrat". Was and still am angry about this.

[ProfessorPlum]

196. Good story, brah. Tell it again

[Sherman A1]

206. Same here

I have more time now being retired, but find that I post less here than when I was working. It too often seems like it's not worth the effort to do so.

[Honeycombe8]

207. I've come close to leaving.

There are some extremists who go around alerting anything that's not praise for their favorite politicians. I mean, really. Even just a reference to a prior mistake by the politician (none of us is perfect, right?) elicits them swarming on the post with alerts. It's bizarre.

I've alerted just a few times in the over-a-decade time that I've been a member. It should be a rare thing, IMO, intended for extreme posts, or on possible conservative trolls. But that's just my opinion.

[regnaD kciN]

81. +1

[efhmc]

142. I had forgotten about Will. I never did understand that one either.

nt

[Baltimike]

169. +1. There is something afoot with that. nt

[QC]

185. Amen

[lpbk2713]

36. DemoTex was a founding member of DU.

He helped to make it what it is. His photos added class to this site.
It is shameful he had to leave the way he did. It certainly looked to
me that he was stalked.

[Blue_playwright]

89. I began reading DU in 2001...

Only got good and worked up enough that I HAD to join and participate this year. I love DemoTex and I’ve always looked for his posts.

☹️

You’ll be missed!

[padah513]

140. Same here

[NotASurfer]

40. Song lyric came to mind

Last couple lines seem appropriate tonight


Cowboys like smokey old pool rooms and clear mountain mornin's
Little warm puppies and children and girls of the night
Them that don't know him won't like him
And them that do sometimes won't know how to take him
He ain't wrong he's just different
But his pride won't let him do things to make you think he's right

[kag]

157. Love that song.

And you're right that it fits the moment well. Fits DemoTex well.

[VOX]

41. DemoTex was so much a part of DU that his departure takes a bit of it with him.

A DemoTex-less DU is a sadder place.

[klook]

43. Outstanding artist.

I found his photographs inspiring and beautiful. I went and looked up the short documentary about him by Arizona public TV (on YouTube). I hope to see one of his shows in SC if he has some more.

DemoTex’s exit was abrupt and unwarranted, imho. I will keep up with his work outside of DU. I’m sorry we won’t be seeing his contributions here any more. He was a member whose threads were always must-reads for me.

[democrank]

44. His photographs were exceptional.

I’ll miss him.

[Jarqui]

45. Loved his journal

https://www.democraticunderground.com/~DemoTex

[BootinUp]

47. Silly drama?

[DRoseDARs]

66. Wish it were that simple. Sounds like it was darker. nt

[uppityperson]

90. Juries hid post after post of complaints about moderation,he thought it was all one duer doing it

It wasn't dark, he misunderstood Hosts and Juries, how they work, and flamed out.

It is really too bad.

[JudyM]

109. This is correct.

[TexasTowelie]

130. Is it?

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Anyone who is eligible to be a forum host can join the group to determine who made the alert and who voted to lock the thread posted in GD. Information that is in the Forum Host and MIRT groups is not considered private.

While demotex overreacted with his subsequent threads and I understand that the juries had no other choice to hide those threads, the facts corroborate that his accusation was accurate.

I've served as a forum host and on MIRT so I know that I'll most likely get a hide for interfering with forum moderation, but I don't believe that it should be hidden that one of the forum hosts is responsible for sending the alert that resulted in the locked thread in GD and that the truth be told.

Regards,

Texas Towelie

[Tipperary]

144. If any host is using their position to settle personal scores,

That is just wrong. I hope the other hosts address this.

[JudyM]

186. That is not what happened. There was unanimous consensus.

[Autumn]

173. People can see the host list here.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=about&forum=1002

[demmiblue]

180. I was under the assumption that hosts don't alert on posts (not as a rule, but as a fairness issue).

No further comment on that.

I only saw one of the threads, and I alerted on it. It was inappropriate... but, more importantly, he gave out his own personal phone number/internet email info (DU has a a small group of crazy types following every move). It didn't get hidden. I am assuming the admins made an executive decision regarding that particular post.

Anywho, I will miss his pics.

[TexasTowelie]

184. I understand why hosts sometimes alert threads that need to be locked.

There are obvious locks such as duplicates and news over 12 hours old in LBN, or discussions specifically prohibited in some forums such as no guns, religion, I/P in GD. The number of hosts has increased over the past couple of days which is great since it stimulates more discussion on the alerts that are of a more subjective nature.

I also agree with the decisions made by the juries. The juries had no other alternative than to hide the threads after the thread in GD was locked.

While I didn't know Demotex as well as some DUers, I shared a few conversations with him and certainly enjoyed his photography and stories. I'm saddened that an alert for a humorous post escalated to an FFR.

[Hoyt]

112. Somebody has to alert. Often, alerts here are for petty stuff or in

retribution. Both are easy to spot (although, not as easy when poster’s names were provided) and are seldom worthy of a hide, IMO.

[LiberalArkie]

154. Why was Goats of Christmas past hidden.

Violationing rules of General Discussion?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211468395

[uppityperson]

155. that was the reason given, I'd would ask the Hosts involved in doing that. I wasn't

I'm just trying explain the moderating system as it seems confusing to too many. Not interfering, but explaining the system.

[TexasTowelie]

208. Thank you. nt

[salin]

171. Is that the post that started this?

If so, dayum. Funny, harmless, and certainly not worth losing a valuable member of the community over. Yes I get the "don't post about moderation/juries/etc." but if there is no flexibility, no context, things have gotten to a rigid, harsh place.

[Sherman A1]

202. If that was the start of the whole thing

I have some thoughts, which I will not post.....

Suffice to say that I liked the photo and all of the photos that he posted.

[NancyDrew]

48. Always loved his photos - he's an artist

I'm a looooong time lurker on this site and never have time to post but gosh - I HAVE to take the time tonight to say that I will sorely miss DemoTex's photos. They were fabulous and I thoroughly enjoyed every one. Always original - I kept my eye open for his posts so I wouldn't miss any - I believe he is a true artist with a camera. I especially loved the photos from the mountains when he was a spotter in the fire watch towers. He gave us spectacular photos and insight into his service on the mountain. I don't understand the "inside" politics going on here...I just wish he would stay, but I guess I'll have to look elsewhere for his photos. Best of luck DemoTex!

[LudwigPastorius]

49. I'll miss you, brother.

Thanks for sharing, in words and pictures, what it is like being one of the "freaks on the peaks" who keep the forest safe.

[salin]

50. While I don't post much these days - some of my favorite posts have always been DemoTex.

I would love to know how to still be in touch, or still be able to read/see his photography.

Please send my best - and if you are reading this - Peace to you DemoTex!

In appreciation,

salin

[dalton99a]

51. You are an amazing talent.

Be well.

[Kingofalldems]

52. Shameful what happened to him.

[DFW]

55. Did I just awaken from a long nap?

What happened? I was aware of NONE of this, and suddenly DemoTex is gone?

Peggy, can you PM me and fill me in?

[CaliforniaPeggy]

77. A bit later, if that's OK. I have some stuff to take care of. n/t

[DFW]

79. No rush! n/t

[Scurrilous]

56. K&R

[mahina]

57. Aloha no DemoTex. I will really miss you.

Always hoped to meet one day. I hope things work out.

Your fire watcher posts are highlights of D U for me.

I don’t know what happened but wish you fond aloha.

[PatrickforO]

58. I missed this whole thing.

I don't get why.

But here's the thing. Yes, DU is a community, and yes, I like many of the people here. But could I do without DU if I pissed off someone here and got kicked off?

Yep.

I guess I'm the original bleeding heart, though, because I'm sad this guy is gone and I didn't even really know him. His photos are first-class though.

[spanone]

59. K&R...

[Ilsa]

60. DU won't be the same.

I respect his decision, but wish he could stay. I'll miss him.

[mokawanis]

64. He will be remembered by many here

and he will definitely be missed. I always hate to see long-term DUer's leave.

[littlemissmartypants]

65. .

[tblue37]

68. That is truly unfortunate. I wonder why he has left when so many of us

appreciate his work. Maybe he felt he was spending too much time here.

On Edit:I see from posts above that this is not the reason. Still, I will miss his work and I wish he were still here.

[xmas74]

70. Can someone pm me with what happened?

This place has changed so much over the years.

[uppityperson]

94. Good summary. He then blamed that Host for each jury hidden post, which got locked, repeatedly

A host locked OP is such a simple thing, not a big deal.

The wish more duers understood the moderating system here.

Thank you for the summary.

[BootinUp]

95. This whole drama is so unnecessary then. Nt

[HipChick]

99. Seems like over reaction?

[seaglass]

153. Yes, I almost alerted on his post where he posted his phone number and email just

because there are nefarious people out there who have targeted DUers in the past. I haven't looked but hopefully it has since been deleted.

I do think sometimes that what is allowed to stay in GD and what is not can be arbitrary and I can understand why he initially was upset (though the reaction was a bit dramatic).

[Tommy_Carcetti]

182. I remember him getting very weird about posting his pictures in GD.

A few years back, he freaked out because one of his picture threads was locked and he was told he should post it in the Lounge.

Meh. On the one hand, it might be a silly rule, but on the other hand, is it really all that worth getting worked up about?

[JonLP24]

193. I agree

I got a post removed reply glad I didn't see it. Maybe I will stay away from the site a little more.

[femmedem]

71. Aw dammit. DemoTex, if you're reading, I've always loved your posts and photos.

You've brought something unique and beloved to this community, and I'll miss you.
I think the rule you may have been flagged for is overly strict, especially for the lounge.

[CaptainTruth]

72. Damn. I enjoyed his pics & posts.

Sad to see him go. He made DU a better place to visit.

[Owl]

75. Very sorry to see him go.

[redstateblues]

78. Could someone fill me in on what happened?

[dflprincess]

80. I would like to know too.

It is always upsetting when a longtime DUer feels they have to leave.

I will miss your posts DemoTex.

[StarryNite]

97. I also would like to know.

He's going to be missed by so many of us.

[cwydro]

139. Post 88 and 94 give some insight.

Looks like a good old DU flameout. He was ffr’d

[proud patriot]

85. Well I wish you the best DemoTex

[MuseRider]

87. What a shame to lose him here.

After all these years. Yes this place has changed, for some of us it is barely usable anymore, all argument and one up man-ship. There are a few really fine posters here that I would hate to miss reading but the rest of it is just uncomfortable most of the time.

I would like to know where to keep in some kind of touch with him. I know he has a Facebook page but I do not know his name. If he is reading this he can tell you or not and you can let me know, it is entirely up to him. If not, goodbye DemoTex. Take more pictures, live out the rest of your life with your dog, camera and peace.

[FailureToCommunicate]

91. Always looked forward to your posts DemoTex. Your reasons for leaving must be

fairly severe to leave so many admirers here wondering what happened.

Well, take care.

Wish you the best.

Wish us all the best during these insane days.

-FTC

[ChazInAz]

92. Oh, damme!

Going to miss you, DemoTex, and your amazing photography. I always thought of you as a neighbor, with your firewatch photos from just north of me on Mount Lemmon.
We never got together for that BBQ, did we?

[KT2000]

93. Sorry to see DemoTex go

I don't know all the details but surely something could have been worked out. Not a good sign.
I will look for your photos DemoTex. They are always stunning and the inside look at a lookout was fun - dog too.

[Marie Marie]

96. Always sad to see a long time Du-er go.

Be well DemoTex, you will be missed.

[blogslut]

98. I wish you peace, DemoTex

I will miss you and the beauty you brought to us.

[Mira]

100. Made note of how to keep up with his spectacular photography

which intimidates me into wanting to break my camera (often). I will so very much miss this poster and photographer. I am also extremely sorry that whatever in the heck happened no way was found to get him to stay.
There is no imagined transgression he could be guilty of to warrant pissing him off to that degree.
A tremendously valued member is lost, and I'm so sorry about it.
Be Well. DemoTex.

[SHRED]

101. May they move on to greater things

Forward.
Progress.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

102. Oh, crap. I don't understand how it happened but I'll miss him and his wonderful photos.

I will definitely try to find him elsewhere.

[argyl]

103. This site is lessened. Considerably. My two cents worth.

[lostnfound]

105. Ditto. It's depressing news. Nt

[Aristus]

104. I'll miss you, old friend...

[lunatica]

106. This breaks my heart

I loved everything that DemoTex brought to DU. As each Summer approached I looked forward to his fire watching, the tales of his dog and his photographs. It’s terrible that something that brought all of us so much pleasure and a sense of connection would be taken away.

I feel deflated.

[grantcart]

107. Well that sucks.

[Atticus]

108. DT struck me as someone who never lost sight of the fact that there is a whole

lot of life going on beyond this keyboard. Truthfully, I will miss his posts, but I agree with him: there is much to read and hear and see and think about notwithstanding his absence from DU.

If you read this, pax vobiscum, friend.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

111. It is beyond unfortunate that DemoTex will no longer be here.

Permanently flagging a member for review sucks. I believe there was a time when members had posting privileges suspended for a specific period of time, and then were let back on. Seems as though that's a better system.

I am also quite puzzled by his removal, as I missed almost all the drama.

[tenderfoot]

113. Will miss you DemoTex

[sinkingfeeling]

114. I went to bed last night believing everything had been worked out. So sorry

that I was mistaken. Loved the photos and talking about Tucson.

[burrowowl]

115. Thanks for the news will miss DemoTex here

[StarryNite]

116. Friends Without Faces

Friends Without Faces

We sit and we type,
and we stare at our screens,
We all have to wonder,
what this possibly means.
With our mouse we roam,
through the rooms in a maze,
Looking for something or someone,
as we sit in a daze.

We chat with each other,
we type all our woes,
Small groups we do form,
and gang up on our foes.
We wait for somebody,
to type out our name,
We want recognition,
but it is always the same.

We give kisses and hugs,
and sometimes flirt,
In IMs we chat deeply,
and reveal why we hurt.
We do form friendships
- but - why we don't know,
But some of these friendships,
will flourish and grow.

Why is it on screen,
we can be so bold,
Telling our secrets,
that have never been told.
Why is it we share,
the thoughts in our mind,
With those we can't see,
as though we were blind.

The answer is simple,
it is as clear as a bell.
We all have our problems,
and need someone to tell.
We can't tell "real" people,
but tell someone we must,
So we turn to the 'puter,
and to those we can trust.

Even though it is crazy,
the truth still remains,
They are Friends Without Faces,
and odd little names.

Author unknown

[Demovictory9]

117. ???

he will be missed

[LeftInTX]

118. That sucks...

It seems alot of good people have been FFR...

[AwakeAtLast]

119. Well this bites

And bites hard! We will miss you DemoTex!

[NBachers]

121. I get the impression that this didn't need to happen. I'm sorry he'll no longer be among us.

I am resentful

[Grasswire2]

123. If anyone has contact info for Octafish......

He gave me his RL info in PM, and that's locked behind a forgotten password with an email I no longer have access to.

[susanna]

124. DemoTex and I joined around the same time...he was slightly earlier I think.

I do not post a lot; I find other people say things so much better than I do.

I am going to miss DemoTex's firewatch stories, his photos, and all of his well-reasoned thoughts. He always made me feel welcome and a part of something larger.

I will look for him elsewhere. Thank you, Peggy.

[AJT]

126. I am so sorry this has happened, he will be missed.

[Liberty Belle]

127. What a loss. There should be a way to reconsider those under "review" after some period of time,

like a probation. Give everyone time to cool off.

Sometimes someone just has a bad week or bad meds or whatever and may go off on a rant. I don't know what happened here other than what I'm reading below, but I do know that DemoTex has been a valued member of this site for many years and I always loved his fire lookout photos as well as his commentary.

I hope the owners of this place will consider some new rules to offer "amnesty" to banned posters if enough people vouch that they are worth giving another chance - people like Will and DemoTex would be top of my list too.

I also know a couple of people who left voluntarily because they were ganged up on here by very combative and offensive people and that's just wrong.

[Crunchy Frog]

131. There was a time when people could be suspended for a time, and then allowed back.

There was a time when people would be outright tombstoned, but even then, one might appeal and get reinstated.

I agree with many on here. This is not the place I joined, or that I've belonged to for most of the past 15 years.

[JonLP24]

200. I'd add Kama Aina

Nice and funny poster. Was FFR for being too critical of Hillary Clinton but at JPR was on the verge of getting banned for not hating her enough and for "vote shaming".

There are some of us stuck in the middle.

[Jim Lane]

128. Peggy, thanks for letting us know, although the news you bring is distressing.

From the snippets of information in this thread, one would not form a particularly favorable opinion about how the process operated in this instance. The net result is a clear loss to DU.

[backtoblue]

133. Take care DemoTex and know youll be missed

Your photos made some really bad days a whole lot better. Be well friend.


https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211081172

[TexasTowelie]

134. I'll miss your posts.

The whole fiasco was not one of the finer moments of DU.

[malaise]

136. Sad

I loved his photos

[kentuck]

137. We will always remember his great photos from his lookout in the fire tower.

I have saved a few of them over the years.

Things have changed.

[IADEMO2004]

138. BOOOOOOOO!!!! HISSSSSSSSS!!! DemoTex FOREVER!!

shit

[Tipperary]

141. Well, this is something new - a GBCW thread by proxy.

Never seen that before.

[Liberty Belle]

175. What does GBCW stand for?

[Just a Weirdo]

179. Goodbye Cruel World

More or less.

[BumRushDaShow]

147. Yikes.

I just read the previous posts in this thread to get an idea of what happened and what a damn shame.

Demo's pics were not just beautiful photos of various locations but were also the literal - "A pictures is worth a thousand words" and invoked all sorts of narratives of what you were viewing.

I hope that some sort of resolution can happen here but I can understand the frustration where you can get to a point of saying fuck it.

[panader0]

149. I will miss you DemoTex.

I wish you could have made it down to the Huachucas when you were in
Tucson. You are an artist with the camera. I will look for your work elsewhere.

[MineralMan]

150. Very unfortunate. I understand what happened, and am sorry

it led to this.

[UpInArms]

151. Am heartbroken to not have DemoTex with us

😰😰😰

[denbot]

156. Goodby, I am so sorry to see you go DemoTex.

Thank you for helping me say goodby Miss CP.

[cry baby]

158. Will miss you, DemoTex!

[Duppers]

159. Whoever treated this EMMY WINNER

Like crap, shame. One of our best was driven away.

Besides, rules are not strictly adhered to here, so

See EMMY 🏆 thread: https://www.democraticunderground.com/10027916486
And check out the video in post #43.

Oh, and DemoTex, whenever you publish a coffee table book of your award-winning photos , let Peggy know so she can post. (Yep, I'm the one who hounded you about doing one. And like others here, I'm not doing much on FB any more.)

DemoTex, you will be greatly missed.

[billh58]

160. K & R!

A little power seems to make some "hosts" overbearing.

[malthaussen]

161. That is unfortunate.

So many of my favorite DUers have left over the years. There must be something wrong with me.

-- Mal

[joshcryer]

162. Best wishes DemoTex.

May we meet again.

[Nay]

166. Oh, man! I always looked forward to your stunning photos and nice posts. It hurts that I won't be

seeing you here anymore.

[scipan]

167. Been here since 2001

DemoTex was a fixture and one of my favorite posters. We used to have freepers come over and try to stir up shite and pit people against each other. Now the people pitters seem to have won cause they are regulars. I don't know where they come from. I rarely see a rightwinger anymore. Curious that.

[Kaleva]

170. Suicide by jury. 6 hides in 3 hours. A classic flame out.

DemoTex actually can't resign from DU or delete his accoun as his account has been flagged for review. The only thing he can do i think is update the "about me" section of his profile.

Loved his pics and enjoyed his posts.

[MoonRiver]

172. Sorry to read this. What happened?

[Pacifist Patriot]

174. I missed it too.

[Kaleva]

178. See post #90 for a partial explanation.

[marble falls]

177. I understand his pain.

[H2O Man]

189. That's not good.

He's one of the people I have long liked, respected, and appreciated here.

[realmirage]

191. Anytime someone says "my kind" has no support here, I'll link to this thread

Unity or obliteration

[ewagner]

192. I remember Demotex from my earliest days on DU (2003)

This place won't be the same without him.

[Blue_Tires]

194. Did I miss something?

[Honeycombe8]

197. I don't know what happened, but I left years ago, for a few yrs.

I won't go into why. But I know how he feels. Maybe he can sit out for a while, and return later, when things have cooled down (from whatever happened).

I hope he returns. It's not good to lose people who have been participating and contributing positively for a long time. That's exactly who we need here.

[MineralMan]

198. Wonderful photographs.

I posted one of them as a tribute to people who keep guard over our forests just a short time ago.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211480215

[OnDoutside]

211. It's a tribute to Demotex that so many people posted their support and good wishes.

The software behind the jury system is laudable and understandable with so many posts, but it could perhaps do with an appeal of last resort to catch issues such as this.

Best of luck to you, Demotex.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

213. I have been asked to lock the thread and so I am. I have left my OP below:

I got a message from DemoTex today. He asked me to let all of you know this:

DemoTex has resigned from DU.

Nothing more, nothing less.

If anyone is interested, I am authorized to tell you where you can find him.

On edit: he can still read DU, and he is reading this thread. He appreciates all your responses.

[herding cats]

214. I'll miss your contributions, DemoTex.

I'm not sure what happened, but I'm very sorry you're gone.