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former-republican

(2,163 posts)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 01:14 AM Aug 2012

Hi new member ,I guess this is me in a nutshell

I support Medicare and Medicaid - no cuts or changes like Romney and Ryan want.
I think government should stay out of our bedrooms and personal lives.
I agree with private property rights ( smoking ban in bars is government stepping over the line)
I think the war on drugs is a failure and should be stopped. Make them legal
I think we should down size the military .
I do not support anymore wars , bring everyone home.
I support the 2nd amendment .
I support a womens right to choose .
I support marriage for anyone in this country of any sex.
I support unions and a living wage paid to employees.
I support the Obamas health care bill.

I hope that I will fit in here . I find my self more and more not agreeing with the GOP views.

Jim

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Hi new member ,I guess this is me in a nutshell (Original Post) former-republican Aug 2012 OP
Welcome to DU! Greybnk48 Aug 2012 #1
Works for me bhikkhu Aug 2012 #2
Welcome! nt s-cubed Aug 2012 #3
Welcome to the nutshell jberryhill Aug 2012 #4
Sometimes it's a nut's hell Mister Ed Aug 2012 #23
Hi, from one new member to another. JaneyVee Aug 2012 #5
Thank you everyone former-republican Aug 2012 #9
we're glad you did! renate Aug 2012 #30
Welcome to DU! Lugnut Aug 2012 #6
Welcome. silvershadow Aug 2012 #7
Welcome. What took you so long? LOL cr8tvlde Aug 2012 #8
Welcome and I know how you feel. DLine Aug 2012 #10
I'm glad I'm not alone former-republican Aug 2012 #13
I'll agree with you about 2/3 of the time. Welcome to the big tent; enjoy the diverse group Brother Buzz Aug 2012 #11
Welcome dballance Aug 2012 #12
I agree. Callmecrazy Aug 2012 #58
Stick with That, Sir, You Should Do fine.... The Magistrate Aug 2012 #14
Welcome to DU! RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 #15
I agree with you...except, I think, they/we ought to ban the sale cigarettes. demosincebirth Aug 2012 #16
no former-republican Aug 2012 #18
yeah iamthebandfanman Aug 2012 #27
I don't care what arguement you come up with. Until you see a loved one or two of yours die demosincebirth Aug 2012 #48
Yeah. They sang too loud in church Jackpine Radical Aug 2012 #62
Where did drugs come into the conversation? Cigarettes were the topic, I thought. demosincebirth Aug 2012 #65
From this. Half our prison cells are filled with drug offenders. Jackpine Radical Aug 2012 #70
I'm getting a headache. nt. demosincebirth Aug 2012 #71
I've seen plenty people die from all kinds of things. Let's ban everything. malokvale77 Aug 2012 #76
Welcome! SnohoDem Aug 2012 #17
Hi, welcome! K8-EEE Aug 2012 #19
I understand your point former-republican Aug 2012 #22
Well, it's public/private property BlueToTheBone Aug 2012 #40
The pervasive nature of smoke makes it difficult K8-EEE Aug 2012 #49
Hello, welcome to our virtual community. patrice Aug 2012 #20
Welcome aboard...if your stated Surya Gayatri Aug 2012 #21
Not enough information jberryhill Aug 2012 #24
LOL former-republican Aug 2012 #31
Welcome! KT2000 Aug 2012 #25
This clinched me: Day in the Life of Joe Republican ErikJ Aug 2012 #26
Welcome to the monkey house, Jim. longship Aug 2012 #28
Welcome Jim Historic NY Aug 2012 #29
Hi, WELCOME! Glad you're here, once in another lifetime I was Raine Aug 2012 #32
Welcome! EmeraldCityGrl Aug 2012 #33
Happy that you are considering joining us emsimon33 Aug 2012 #34
Welcome, Jim! eShirl Aug 2012 #35
Welcome! Snoozin Aug 2012 #36
Fine, fine, but how do you feel about circumcisions, pubic hair and toddlers on airplanes?? nt Bonobo Aug 2012 #37
Lol, yes, and what about Nader, Chavez and porn? redgreenandblue Aug 2012 #43
and pitbulls, veganism and Chelsea Clinton ? KurtNYC Aug 2012 #46
Yup, sounds like you could fit in here real fine..... a kennedy Aug 2012 #38
Welcome to DU :) NEOhiodemocrat Aug 2012 #39
Welcome to DU! PADemD Aug 2012 #41
Anymore like you out there?... hwmnbn Aug 2012 #42
Well, since you asked... stop this fascism Aug 2012 #73
It's OBama. You're a troll, right? n/t kurtzapril4 Aug 2012 #75
Welcome aboard madokie Aug 2012 #44
Welcome Jim. Just be prepared to have a thick skin... Javaman Aug 2012 #45
Same here. I was once a Republican but the party left me. modem77 Aug 2012 #47
Welcome to DU, former-republican! femmocrat Aug 2012 #50
So then why were you ever a Republican? lunatica Aug 2012 #51
Gonna welcome me? stop this fascism Aug 2012 #72
Huh? lunatica Aug 2012 #74
Why not start your own thread Change has come Aug 2012 #80
! graywarrior Aug 2012 #52
We always have room for more DUers. lpbk2713 Aug 2012 #53
Welcome to DU Jim.... we have been waiting for you for quite some time.... hope your 2on2u Aug 2012 #54
Welcome! treestar Aug 2012 #55
Welcome Jim Lebam in LA Aug 2012 #56
welcome samsingh Aug 2012 #57
Hi. Nice user name. Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #59
Wow... Karmasue Aug 2012 #60
Your views.. sendero Aug 2012 #61
Welcome, Jim Doctor_J Aug 2012 #63
NRA former-republican Aug 2012 #64
Hi, I live in a rural area in WA state marlakay Aug 2012 #66
Its never too late, to follow what you know in your heart HCE SuiGeneris Aug 2012 #68
With beliefs like that...how were you ever a Republican? Welcome! Auntie Bush Aug 2012 #67
We'll help you along with that "more and more" part. Avalux Aug 2012 #69
Welcome Jim. 99Forever Aug 2012 #77
I'm at a loss to figure out why you were a Republican. Festivito Aug 2012 #78
A belated Welcome to DU! ThatsMyBarack Aug 2012 #79
Welcome to DU! Change has come Aug 2012 #81
 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
5. Hi, from one new member to another.
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 01:19 AM
Aug 2012


Btw, bars are a fairly public place and 2nd hand smoke to non-smokers can put them in a position to have to pay huge medical bills for something they didn't choose. I support a select area designated for smoking. Anyway, good list there. Welcome.
 

former-republican

(2,163 posts)
9. Thank you everyone
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 01:24 AM
Aug 2012

I reached 10 posts and I got an email to introduce my self.
I felt kinda funny doing it but I did it anyways.

Lugnut

(9,791 posts)
6. Welcome to DU!
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 01:22 AM
Aug 2012


The GOP is not what it used to be and I've been around long enough to make that assessment. When your party leaves you it's time to make adjustments.

DLine

(397 posts)
10. Welcome and I know how you feel.
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 01:28 AM
Aug 2012

Im a recovering conservative myself. Voted for Bush in 2000. Finally realized I was being bullshitted by the GOP and their propagandists like Limbaugh and Hannity. Not saying the Democrats are perfect. But I will argue they are better for the country than Republicans any day.

 

former-republican

(2,163 posts)
13. I'm glad I'm not alone
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 01:31 AM
Aug 2012

I agree no party is perfect but when I listen to the GOP now I just can't connect with them.
They lost me.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
12. Welcome
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 01:28 AM
Aug 2012

You won't always find a totally receptive audience but don't let that discourage you. Have fun challenging other people's beliefs. It's good for our soul.

RedStateLiberal

(1,374 posts)
15. Welcome to DU!
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 01:47 AM
Aug 2012


When I turned 18 at the end of the Reagan era I registered to vote as a Republican. Then I started paying attention to politics. Needless to say, I quickly realized my mistake, but at least I too can say I'm a former Republican.
 

former-republican

(2,163 posts)
18. no
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 01:55 AM
Aug 2012

If an adult wants to smoke they should be able to without threat of having a banned or illegal substance made by some government officials.

Our jails are full of people that have harmed no one.

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
27. yeah
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 02:36 AM
Aug 2012

smoking is a personal choice that involves your own body.

i think most people like smoking bans in public areas because they arent choosing to smoke, but are having too whether they like it or not.
we still have smoking sections where i live, and some are put off to the side and really are away from other people... these seem fine to me..but ive also been in places where there is no divide at all.. and smoke just goes up to the roof n and travels wherever it wants from there... lol..
its a tricky area tho, dealing with private businesses...so i can understand your hesitation. slippery slope, and all that. easier tho when dealing with public land.

i wouldnt object to big warnings. probably should put them on anything thats harmful, frankly. people have a right to be informed as much as possible.

Oh, and welcome to DU

demosincebirth

(12,826 posts)
48. I don't care what arguement you come up with. Until you see a loved one or two of yours die
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 01:56 PM
Aug 2012

Last edited Fri Aug 17, 2012, 03:29 PM - Edit history (1)

slowly and painfully from the direct effects of of smoking and second hand smoke you will wish they would have banned cigarettes years ago.

"Our jails are full of people that have harmed no one?" Do you think they are in there because,

maybe, they sang too loud in church?



All that said, welcome to DU.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
62. Yeah. They sang too loud in church
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 07:35 PM
Aug 2012

while stoned.

The drug laws do much more harm than the drugs.

That's an easy call with pot, but we would be much better off viewing the hard drugs as a public health problem than a criminal issue.

You can't control much by outlawing it, but you can by cutting the profit out of it. If addicts could get cheap, prescribed drugs--or, for that matter, entirely legal drugs--the drug cartels would starve & the addicts would have lots less incentive to commit secondary crimes to support their habits.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
70. From this. Half our prison cells are filled with drug offenders.
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 11:43 AM
Aug 2012

"Our jails are full of people that have harmed no one?" Do you think they are in there because,

maybe, they sang too loud in church?

SnohoDem

(1,036 posts)
17. Welcome!
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 01:52 AM
Aug 2012

Enjoy and learn, and don't get freaked out by the occasional flame wars.

"I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat."
Will Rogers

Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/w/willrogers122697.html#xWcAtjS5YcPjV7Ih.99

K8-EEE

(15,667 posts)
19. Hi, welcome!
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 01:58 AM
Aug 2012

I do respectfully disagree with your smoking thing though because it's really brutal for people who wait tables (or sing!) to have to breathe in the smoke the whole shift. True they don't HAVE to work where there is smoking allowed but the reality is the customer is always right and there would be whole regions where you could not get such a job without sacrificing your health. I remember working in clubs before the smoking ban, coming home and washing my hair and the next day it STILL smelled like smoke!

 

former-republican

(2,163 posts)
22. I understand your point
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 02:16 AM
Aug 2012

I still don't agree with it but I respect it.
I think that owners should make the choice on this not the government or state. Again this is only on private property.
I would go to a smoking bar , many would go to a non smoking one.
There's enough room for both .

I believe that entire regions would have smoking and non smoking venues .
A person would be able to work either one.


Jim

BlueToTheBone

(3,747 posts)
40. Well, it's public/private property
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 08:14 AM
Aug 2012

They invite everyone in and in that respect, I'm delighted that there is a ban on smoking in public places such as restaurants and bars. I hate that people can smoke right outside the doorway of buildings...it's like running a cigarette smoke gauntlet.

But, I'm delighted you are here. It's good to see that we as humanity have a chance, you're proof.

K8-EEE

(15,667 posts)
49. The pervasive nature of smoke makes it difficult
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:49 PM
Aug 2012

For cocktail waitresses and other bar workers to not put their lungs at risk. When a smoker lights up everyone around him breathes in carcinigens; in truth, before the ban, no bars would ban smoking because smoking and drinking are often twin addictions, but I do feel that smokers have adjusted to the "step outside" thing pretty well. Here in L.A. they have "smoker's lounges" and patios etc.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
24. Not enough information
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 02:27 AM
Aug 2012

You sound okay so far, but we need to know a little more about you.

Do you smoke, eat at Olive Garden, or shave your bikini area?

 

former-republican

(2,163 posts)
31. LOL
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 02:53 AM
Aug 2012


I do smoke , have ate at olive garden.
And I do not have a bikini area.

But we do shave our husky every year in the summer time.

KT2000

(22,151 posts)
25. Welcome!
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 02:33 AM
Aug 2012

I can see where you no longer fit into the republican party. Like Jim Hightower once said - The Democraic party is like loading frogs into a wheelbarrow! The big tent makes for lots of discussion.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
26. This clinched me: Day in the Life of Joe Republican
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 02:33 AM
Aug 2012

A Day in the Life of Joe Republican-John Gray

Joe gets up at 6:00 AM to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot full of good clean drinking water because some liberal fought for minimum water quality standards. He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to insure their safety and work as advertised.

All but $10.00 of his medications are paid for by his employers medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance, now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs this day. Joe’s bacon is safe to eat because some liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

Joe takes his morning shower reaching for his shampoo; His bottle is properly labeled with every ingredient and the amount of its contents because some liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some tree hugging liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to work; it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees. You see, some liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day; he has a good job with excellent pay, medicals benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

It's noon time, Joe needs to make a Bank Deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe’s deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some liberal wanted to protect Joe’s money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the depression.

Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae underwritten Mortgage and his below market federal student loan because some stupid liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his life-time.

Joe is home from work, he plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive to dad's; his car is among the safest in the world because some liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. He was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electric until some big government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification. (Those rural Republicans would still be sitting in the dark.)

He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.

After his visit with dad he gets back in his car for the ride home.

He turns on a radio talk show. The host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. (He doesn't tell Joe that his beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day)

Joe agrees. "We don't need those big government liberals ruining our lives; after all, I'm a self made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."

longship

(40,416 posts)
28. Welcome to the monkey house, Jim.
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 02:37 AM
Aug 2012

From your post, it looks like you'll be a fine upstanding netizen.

Some advice. Learn the DU tools. Be friendly and polite, even when others are not. There's always ignore, but I've been here years and years and have only used it thrice. Try to be helpful. Supplying important info to an existing thread is always welcome, and often valuable.

Good luck, our new friend.


Welcome to DU!

R&K (recommended and kicked)

Recommend is the Rec box at the bottom of your post. Lots of Recs gets you to the Greatest Page. Kicked means a new post in the thread. It kicks you to the top of the forum. Sometimes kicked is expressed thusly

Raine

(31,179 posts)
32. Hi, WELCOME! Glad you're here, once in another lifetime I was
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 02:56 AM
Aug 2012

a Republican as were others here.

EmeraldCityGrl

(4,310 posts)
33. Welcome!
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 03:00 AM
Aug 2012

That's more information than most posting here
provide in their profiles. Hope you find some
camaraderie with other posters.

emsimon33

(3,128 posts)
34. Happy that you are considering joining us
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 03:39 AM
Aug 2012

The discussions sometimes get heated! We don't all march to exactly the same tune but together we make great music!

Snoozin

(25 posts)
36. Welcome!
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:50 AM
Aug 2012

Speaking as a former narrow minded pinhead and ex member of the republican party...

WELCOME HOME!

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
37. Fine, fine, but how do you feel about circumcisions, pubic hair and toddlers on airplanes?? nt
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:52 AM
Aug 2012

NEOhiodemocrat

(912 posts)
39. Welcome to DU :)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 08:12 AM
Aug 2012

Hope you enjoy and learn even half of much as I have on this site, it has been a real education. Hope to hear more from you.

 
73. Well, since you asked...
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 04:55 PM
Aug 2012

I have become a proud independent since my vote for O'Bomba in 2008.

modem77

(191 posts)
47. Same here. I was once a Republican but the party left me.
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 09:07 AM
Aug 2012

It has moved too far to the right and I can no longer support them. It has become a party of hate, control and fear.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
50. Welcome to DU, former-republican!
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:05 PM
Aug 2012

You must have left the GOP a long time ago... they have been drifting right since the reagan administration!

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
74. Huh?
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 05:05 PM
Aug 2012

This is the first time I've seen a post of yours.

I'll be glad to welcome you if you're decent about it and don't just insinuate some insult at me.

lpbk2713

(43,273 posts)
53. We always have room for more DUers.
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:11 PM
Aug 2012



Welcome. I'm sure you will find you made the right choice.




 

2on2u

(1,843 posts)
54. Welcome to DU Jim.... we have been waiting for you for quite some time.... hope your
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:12 PM
Aug 2012

experience here is a pleasant one.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
55. Welcome!
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:14 PM
Aug 2012

You basically fit in.

you may be surprised to find yourself in passionate debate about pit bulls, Olive Garden, breastfeeding, kids on airplanes, H-1bs and Julian Assange.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
59. Hi. Nice user name.
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:41 PM
Aug 2012

We don't get too very many of you type around here. Recent converts I mean.

I'm sorry your party no longer fits you. I mean that. I don't know exactly what's went awry with them to lead them to where they currently are, but we'll be glad to have you.

Did anyone mention yet you have to buy the first round on election night? No? Well, now you know!

Karmasue

(95 posts)
60. Wow...
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:57 PM
Aug 2012

I'm encouraged by all the replies to your introduction. I never got that memo, and have only been here a few times. I don't input a lot because I find that I end up reading for hours sometimes just to take it all in! It is a great forum.

I agree with every issue you list, including the smoking ban. I was a smoker for 45 years and quit only a few years ago, so I am empathetic to the non-smoker issues as well. If we stop approaching it through the veil of right/wrong we could make great strides in coming to an equitable solution. But then - isn't that applicable to so many issues we come at with swords drawn instead of a yearning to find compatible solutions?

My interpretation of the second amendment, however, doesn't usually agree with other interpretations, so when I agree with you on supporting the 2nd amendment, I do that with that codicil attached. (On a similar note, I have been told by some that my 14th amendment thoughts are different from some as well! But that's another issue and not for this topic.)

What are your favorite topics? There are so many here, and most of the threads are so interesting, that it is hard to check them all out. In addition to all of the other great topics, I love the fact that politics and religion are not taboo as they are on many sites. I love a spirited debate about both - without stooping to name-calling and hate-mongering. Spouting hate turns me off to anything that might follow.

Welcome....hope to read your thoughts one day. Literally.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
61. Your views..
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:59 PM
Aug 2012

... are similar to those of most sensible people. However, the people running the country are willfully not sensible because it is in their self interest to be that way.

 

former-republican

(2,163 posts)
64. NRA
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 09:58 PM
Aug 2012

I grew up hunting, my father was a hunter and gun owner.
I'm a hunter and gun owner. I joined the NRA as a lifetime member when I was young.
I became a 1 issue voter on this topic. It trumped other issues for me.

As my father grew older I saw how much medicare , social security was needed to protect our elderly.
I saw hard working close Friends lose their jobs in the last few years through no fault of their own.. I witnessed first hand
how important it is to have compassion and a safety net for our fellow country men.

I was of the mind before welfare , food stamps was only for lazy people.
But that is not the case for many people in our country. There's other things also but I don't want to be long winded.

Jim

marlakay

(13,283 posts)
66. Hi, I live in a rural area in WA state
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 10:35 PM
Aug 2012

Most of the democrats here all have guns, it's part of the hunting thing.

Me we retired here and I have never shot a gun in my life but I am from Napa, Ca wine country.

Welcome to DU. I joined in 2004 when I first woke up and saw what Bush was doing and thought the war was wrong.

One thing you will find about our side is we listen to opinions and try to be open minded. Education and learning is a big part of who we are.

HCE SuiGeneris

(14,997 posts)
68. Its never too late, to follow what you know in your heart
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:08 AM
Aug 2012

is a better option.

Be well, and keep endeavoring to fight for the greater good.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
69. We'll help you along with that "more and more" part.
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:16 AM
Aug 2012

At this point in our nation's history; it's not about one political party vs another anymore....its about those of us who work hard to survive vs those who would take that from us.

Welcome to DU!

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
77. Welcome Jim.
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 09:20 PM
Aug 2012

I agree with almost everything on your list, except a couple.

We'll work on those.

Festivito

(13,891 posts)
78. I'm at a loss to figure out why you were a Republican.
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 09:57 AM
Aug 2012

Except that you might have done some of your own research.

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