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Wed Nov 28, 2018, 06:31 PM

Chuck Todd And His Panel Are Giving Trump And His Evil Cabal A Get Out Of Jail Free Card

They are suggesting the way that Trump will use his pardon powers to keep Manafort and probably all other of his accused accomplices out of jail. They keep on normalizing his actions and basically say Trump will push the envelope into that area that never has been attempted before and will get away with it cause every time he does push the envelope he's been fairly successful.

Trump doesn't need to be a political genius. All he needs to do is listen to the talking heads on these news channels point out ways that he can use to weasel his way out of fixes and then employ these ways.

Sometimes I think that the news channels should be charged along with Trump with obstruction of justice and aiding and abetting Trump. They are pointing the way for him.

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Reply Chuck Todd And His Panel Are Giving Trump And His Evil Cabal A Get Out Of Jail Free Card (Original post)
global1 Nov 2018 OP
underthematrix Nov 2018 #1
BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #6
triron Nov 2018 #9
Cha Nov 2018 #14
NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #2
RockRaven Nov 2018 #7
localroger Nov 2018 #15
Jersey Devil Nov 2018 #13
Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2018 #3
Hoyt Nov 2018 #4
LBM20 Nov 2018 #5
dlk Nov 2018 #8
Beakybird Nov 2018 #10
spooky3 Nov 2018 #12
spanone Nov 2018 #11
Irishxs Nov 2018 #16
Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2018 #17

Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 06:32 PM

1. Chuck Todd is performance art.

I recommend you ignore him.

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Response to underthematrix (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 06:47 PM

6. Done and done!

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Response to underthematrix (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 06:51 PM

9. 2nd that.

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Response to underthematrix (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 07:18 PM

14. Whatever it is it's Bad.. I ignore him

like the plague.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 06:34 PM

2. He does realize that Manafort also pled guilty

to state charges that Trump cannot pardon away

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 06:47 PM

7. Splitting hairs, but he didn't plead guilty to any state charges yet. His federal guilty plea

document contains statement of facts which are violations of various state laws. So Manafort would still need to be charged and convicted at the state level. And in that case he'd reverse course, deny everything, try to beat the charges, and dare the feds to charge him with perjury for the "false" contents of the guilty plea.

But to answer your point, no I don't think Chuck Todd knows that, because he's so interested in the horse race/soap opera drama/sports analogy/back and forth/mindlessly parroting talking points/etc that he doesn't bother, you know, researching anything that he's "reporting" on.

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 07:37 PM

15. The plea deal agreement amounts to a sworn confession

Trump can pardon him, and even pardon him for perjury if he admits to "lying" when he admitted to those crimes in the plea agreement, but he can't undo the fact that Manafort swore to the truth of those admissions. That puts him in an absurdly weak position with tose state AG's if he decides to recant. I'm guessing that the document Manafort is preparing to release detailing why the plea deal is off will also contain enough evidence for even a baby state AG to bury Manafort with little additional effort.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 07:18 PM

13. No, he did not plead guilty to state charges

He admitted to acts that would constitute state charges IF he had those state charges against him. He did not.

You can only plead guilty to state charges in state court. You cannot plead guilty to a state charge in federal court.

The states involved have to charge him first and if they wait until the statute of limitations expires on them (which varies depending on the charge) they are out of luck. Once charged, if he pleads not guilty the state prosecutors will point to his admissions made in federal court and use that as evidence of his guilt.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 06:35 PM

3. This sort of junk has had me pulling my hair out from the GWB (mis-)Administration to now

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 06:44 PM

4. Sounds to me that Todd is fed up with trump getting away with everything.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 06:45 PM

5. Manafort also pled to state charges. So the Orange Idiot can pardon away. Doesn't mean shit.

 

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 06:50 PM

8. I Never Watch Chuck Todd, Just Another Smug Frat Boy

Seriously, what a waste of precious time.

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Response to dlk (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 07:04 PM

10. Amen! He's a smarmy, evil man. Disingenuous.

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Response to dlk (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 07:11 PM

12. He's unwatchable. Nt

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 07:11 PM

11. I never watch him.

you have reinforced that decision!

Thanks

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 07:40 PM

16. Quit watching CT because his ratio..

Of republican to dems is so unbalanced, itís not impartial anymore. Plus he talks way too fast. I like Lawrence O Donnel. So much better!

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 07:42 PM

17. Chuck Todd is really good at his job. If that

job consists of dumbing down and misinforming an already dumb population. If his job is to inform. Then he's doing a terrible job.

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