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Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 12:28 AM Nov 2018

Most of GOP leadership has been compromised by Russian money: Trump biographer

And we are all SO shocked! None of us had ANY IDEA R leadership was compromised, or that this is the reason behind McConnell refusing to bring the resolution protecting Mueller up for a vote, or why none of them will stand up to Trump...
Finally, someone is saying it out loud.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/gop-leadership-compromised-russian-money-trump-biographer/

A biographer who detailed the relationship between Donald Trump and the Russian mob explained that Russia’s financial links to the United States extend far beyond the president.

Craig Unger, author of House of Trump, House of Putin: The Untold Story of Donald Trump and the Russian Mafia, wrote in a Reddit AMA that one of the biggest surprises in his book is how Trump has been compromised “for decades.”

snip

In the 90’s, Unger wrote, Russians began sending money to Rep. Tom DeLay (R-TX), a longtime congressman who later became House Majority Leader. He also suggested that the mafia was sending money to other Republicans as well.

“I believe most of the GOP leadership has been compromised by” Russian money, the author added. “The Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee run by Mitch McConnell got millions from [Soviet-born businessman] Leonard Blavatnik.”

“As for the endgame,” Unger concluded, “I think it is already [beginning] to unravel.”

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Most of GOP leadership has been compromised by Russian money: Trump biographer (Original Post) Amaryllis Nov 2018 OP
Funneled through the NRA? C_U_L8R Nov 2018 #1
over $175 million from "unknown sources" Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2018 #12
Maria Butina is probably talking. Duppers Nov 2018 #18
k&R! Mueller can do MUCH more; so can Putin: Read IT all... Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #27
Yep, wouldn't doubt it is the NRA giving it to them uponit7771 Nov 2018 #2
Guessing NRA is one of multiple sources. It's so vast...it's sounding more and more like those Amaryllis Nov 2018 #4
+1 uponit7771 Nov 2018 #5
This is a problem for them Jarqui Nov 2018 #3
I remember that. Surprised it didnt get more press. Maybe with Schiff heading up house intel it Amaryllis Nov 2018 #6
Pardon them? Fuck that. The pitchforks and KPN Nov 2018 #11
I think we should substitute rakes for the pitchforks Jarqui Nov 2018 #14
McConartist was more concerned with court packing than his own immediate future. Lock. Him. Up. Hassler Nov 2018 #7
I thought all along that this is a huge reason why they were so eager to push Kavenaugh though Amaryllis Nov 2018 #8
Link to the ama Midnightwalk Nov 2018 #9
What's ama? Amaryllis Nov 2018 #10
"Ask Me Anything" moondust Nov 2018 #13
Thank you! Duppers Nov 2018 #19
Remember in 2006 the GOP RNC was dead underpants Nov 2018 #15
+1,000. nt MsLeopard Nov 2018 #17
McConnell is complicit. triron Nov 2018 #16
"The Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee got millions from Leonard Blavatnik." Botany Nov 2018 #20
Lock 'em all up! world wide wally Nov 2018 #21
Then they'll find that one planted Democratic candidate who used Russian money... C Moon Nov 2018 #22
Critical system failure, re: 2016. Fuzzpope Nov 2018 #23
Obama knew, but because it looked like HRC had it, he didn't want to throw a grenade that might lindysalsagal Nov 2018 #30
My read as well. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2018 #38
Agree 100000% MFGsunny Nov 2018 #40
He was caught between a bunch of lousy options and took the one he thought was best given Amaryllis Dec 2018 #49
I think he was right. As much as the frumpers want to see a slugmatch, it's not going to work for ou lindysalsagal Dec 2018 #50
I think so too. ALways easy to look back and wonder about the other choice, the one not made. I hope Amaryllis Dec 2018 #52
Why were the Russians at the GOP 2016 convention? UCmeNdc Nov 2018 #24
It seemed so odd at the time - and now, so telling n/t MBS Nov 2018 #35
Including Vice President Mike Pence. I'll put money on it. ffr Nov 2018 #25
Agreed that he's in deep, too. MBS Nov 2018 #36
Amaryllis, this was reported when uncovered months ago Hortensis Nov 2018 #26
I do remember that and was disappointed it got so little coverage; hence my comment that finally Amaryllis Nov 2018 #44
It IS good that it's being covered some more. Hortensis Nov 2018 #45
I'm waiting for Rachel et all to start talking about it in relation to McC refusing to bring the Amaryllis Nov 2018 #46
Or as I put the question, Hortensis Dec 2018 #48
republicans betray America - sold the USA out Achilleaze Nov 2018 #28
Dozens of local governors might be appointing replacements for gop congresspeople lindysalsagal Nov 2018 #29
They ALL took the dirty Russian money! Drahthaardogs Nov 2018 #31
If one takes it, everyone else has to keep up. It's all about the money libdem4life Nov 2018 #47
Been saying this ever since Trump war ejected into the Presidency. allgood33 Nov 2018 #32
The entire Benghazi GOP brigade, including those who retired last year is included. allgood33 Nov 2018 #33
I suspect duforsure Nov 2018 #34
that's why mcconnell won't protect Mueller mucifer Nov 2018 #37
Adding to this thread.... OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2018 #39
Heads. Must. Roll. not_the_one Nov 2018 #41
It's been obvious for a while. My question is what will Dems do about it? Autumn Nov 2018 #42
They are all in on it!!! Initech Nov 2018 #43
Because of conspiracy law and Rico, this is important problem, as 'cons dig in. empedocles Dec 2018 #51
Sounds like another House investigation and hearing...bring in McConnel, nunes and beachbum bob Dec 2018 #53
Assuming once Ryan is gone, he will no longer be immune to subpeonas, but is Mitch? Is there any Amaryllis Dec 2018 #54

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,321 posts)
12. over $175 million from "unknown sources"
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 12:53 AM
Nov 2018

From CNBC back in Feb:


The NRA is among the largest "dark money" organizations, reporting the greatest amount of campaign spending without revealing the source of the funds — over $35 million in the 2016 election cycle alone. Still, this amount was just a fraction of the over $175 million in reported campaign-related spending that came from unknown sources.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/15/nra-russia-and-trump-money-laundering-poisoning-us-democracy-commentary.html

Duppers

(28,118 posts)
18. Maria Butina is probably talking.
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 01:53 AM
Nov 2018

I posted earlier...

Can Mueller takes these criminals down too? He probably has proof they knew a lot. These rethugian leaders accepted money from a Russian spy, Maria Butina. How can they claim ignorance?

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
27. k&R! Mueller can do MUCH more; so can Putin: Read IT all...
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 06:02 AM
Nov 2018

Mueller's weapon of choice is still an FBI FISA Warrant: read ALL of this...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211491422

GOTCHA
The National Security Agency is the only government group that actually listens...
Maybe, FBI online agents are finally "listening" too...

http://www.msnbc.com/brian-williams/watch/from-russia-with-love-trump-sought-business-in-moscow-for-years-1384469059692
The National Security Agency is the only government group that actually listens...

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
4. Guessing NRA is one of multiple sources. It's so vast...it's sounding more and more like those
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 12:42 AM
Nov 2018

novels and movies where a conspiracy spans continents. LIke a Tom Clancy novel.

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
3. This is a problem for them
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 12:40 AM
Nov 2018

https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/national/read-the-transcript-of-the-conversation-among-gop-leaders-obtained-by-the-post/2209/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/17/putin-pays-donald-trump-kevin-mccarthy-recording
In an exchange first reported by the Washington Post, McCarthy said: “There’s …there’s two people, I think, Putin pays: [California Representative Dana] Rohrabacher and Trump … [laughter] … swear to God.”

According to the transcript, speaker Paul Ryan immediately responded: “This is an off-the-record … [laughter] … NO LEAKS … [laughter] … alright?!”


How Putin's oligarchs funneled millions into GOP campaigns
https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2018/05/08/putins-proxies-helped-funnel-millions-gop-campaigns
In 2015-16, everything changed. Blavatnik's political contributions soared and made a hard right turn as he pumped $6.35 million into GOP political action committees, with millions of dollars going to top Republican leaders including Sens. Mitch McConnell, Marco Rubio and Lindsey Graham.

In 2017, donations continued, with $41,000 going to both Republican and Democrat candidates, along with $1 million to McConnell's Senate Leadership Fund.


That's why Trump won't get removed from office by impeachment. He can pardon them.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
6. I remember that. Surprised it didnt get more press. Maybe with Schiff heading up house intel it
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 12:43 AM
Nov 2018

will re-emerge.

KPN

(15,642 posts)
11. Pardon them? Fuck that. The pitchforks and
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 12:49 AM
Nov 2018

torches come out at that point. I want them to suffer for all the suffering they have caused for millions of people for so long. A pound of flesh from each one of these treasonous bastards.

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
14. I think we should substitute rakes for the pitchforks
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 01:14 AM
Nov 2018

To control Trump's burning of the country

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
8. I thought all along that this is a huge reason why they were so eager to push Kavenaugh though
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 12:46 AM
Nov 2018

before the election. They need him there to protect themselves when it all comes out, given his views on executive power/ indictments, etc.

underpants

(182,769 posts)
15. Remember in 2006 the GOP RNC was dead
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 01:15 AM
Nov 2018

W was trashed. They lost 54 seats in the House and lost the Senate. The Virginia GOP was so broke from sexual harassment cases that John Warner and George Allen had to bail it out or it couldn't have put people on the ballot.

About this time many of the "Four Sisters" were ending there mega donations (I think) it was a perfect time for the Kochs and Russians to swoop in and established their place.

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
22. Then they'll find that one planted Democratic candidate who used Russian money...
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 02:40 AM
Nov 2018

and the news will focus on that person.

 

Fuzzpope

(602 posts)
23. Critical system failure, re: 2016.
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 02:52 AM
Nov 2018

OK, so here is my question:

How is it possible that Obama did not know that this was going on? Obama may not have been running again, but I have a very hard time believing that he allowed critical gaps in his intelligence to completely overlook the huge amounts of dark money getting pumped into the Republican party.

When McConnell threatened to claim partisanship when Obama briefed him on the FBI Trump investigation, how did Obama not know that McConnell was already dirty and running full power interference for Trump?

I just don't buy that. This had to be looming in front of the Democrats in plain sight, are we seriously supposed to believe that investigative reporters out gunned our intelligence community?

Something fucking stinks in Chi Town, and no, I'm not blaming Obama at all, I'm just pondering the fact that this was able to happen in broad daylight.

Trump's Russian connections were known, had been known for some time prior.

I don't know if it was a conspiracy within the intelligence apparatus, I know that the NYC FBI was dirty and working with Ghouliani, but how much further in did the conspirators penetrate towards DC?

I fully believe to execute the Trump conspiracy that there had to have been a *great* many more boots on the ground, hands on the levers, the gateways, running servers, it would have required a massive team effort to slip past the national security apparatus.

lindysalsagal

(20,670 posts)
30. Obama knew, but because it looked like HRC had it, he didn't want to throw a grenade that might
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 06:57 AM
Nov 2018

have it's own backlash with independent voters, and I agree, he was right. Now we know how tenuous her victory was. He had a 6th sense about it. People would not have believed him if he had said it: It would have been seen as an attempt to effect the outcome.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
49. He was caught between a bunch of lousy options and took the one he thought was best given
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 09:05 PM
Dec 2018

the many very complex factors he had to weigh. I often wonder if he wishes he had made a different choice.

lindysalsagal

(20,670 posts)
50. I think he was right. As much as the frumpers want to see a slugmatch, it's not going to work for ou
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 09:47 PM
Dec 2018

our side. Remember flip-flopper? (john Kerry) The gop uses any flimsy excuse to throw hate and many people lap it up.

There were decades of hillary hate and Obama couldn't work miracles and suddenly regain their trust. It's taken months of mueller and his base is as solid as ever.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
52. I think so too. ALways easy to look back and wonder about the other choice, the one not made. I hope
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 09:49 PM
Dec 2018

he hasn't lost sleep over it, because he was in an untenable situation.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
25. Including Vice President Mike Pence. I'll put money on it.
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 04:23 AM
Nov 2018
"Just to button up one question. Did any advisor or anybody in the Trump campaign have any contact with the Russians...?"

Mike Pence: "Oh of course not..."


@2:35m

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
26. Amaryllis, this was reported when uncovered months ago
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 05:53 AM
Nov 2018

by investigative journalists. This is huge, just not discussed nearly enough -- by US, it seems you would agree.

In any case, I read about it and it was discussed then, including the amounts donated to PACs serving specific high-ranking Republicans, etc.

Of course, and let's go ahead and say this out right loud to anyone who can't walk away fast enough: Those who took Russian money are the same Republican legislators who put the loophole into the law that allowed unlimited secret money to be funneled to them by hostile foreign governments.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
44. I do remember that and was disappointed it got so little coverage; hence my comment that finally
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 09:10 PM
Nov 2018

someone is talking about it. This article was from yesterday, even though that info came out many months ago.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
45. It IS good that it's being covered some more.
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 09:28 PM
Nov 2018

Agree 100%. For whatever reasons, this is a usual pattern for news media, though. The news cycle for the end of the world would last at most maybe 2 weeks even if it wasn't happening for 3 weeks.

When a new development comes along to push something back to the surface, then it's covered more, sometimes a lot more. The journalists who covered it haven't forgotten and are still digging or at least keeping an eye on it.

I've been waiting and waiting for more on the computer/IT people in or associated with Trump's background, including a couple of troublemaking, antidemocratic libertarian billionaires I've taken a grudge to.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
46. I'm waiting for Rachel et all to start talking about it in relation to McC refusing to bring the
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 09:31 PM
Nov 2018

bill protecting Mueller to a vote, and in general continuing to support T no matter what, and Nunes's actions, etc. etc. How long have we all know they were complicit?

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
28. republicans betray America - sold the USA out
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 06:53 AM
Nov 2018

for money. There's your "republican family values" right there. Deplorable.

lindysalsagal

(20,670 posts)
29. Dozens of local governors might be appointing replacements for gop congresspeople
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 06:54 AM
Nov 2018

If we're lucky and their locals demand they resign....

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
47. If one takes it, everyone else has to keep up. It's all about the money
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 10:04 PM
Nov 2018

for getting elected. If you're honest, without a significant skeleton, they don't want you because there is nothing to keep you in line. What we're seeing here is the underbelly of Patriarchy starting to show. "This is how it's done." is a mantra for entry. Those leaving the ship...retiring...either are sick of it or about to get dragged into it. The rest...only time will tell. And sad to say, it infected both parties for the same reason. If they do it, we have to....to keep up. It's insidious.

 

allgood33

(1,584 posts)
32. Been saying this ever since Trump war ejected into the Presidency.
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 07:22 AM
Nov 2018

When truth is stranger than fiction, it's difficult to get people to listen.

 

allgood33

(1,584 posts)
33. The entire Benghazi GOP brigade, including those who retired last year is included.
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 07:25 AM
Nov 2018

And you can tell by their votes and their protecting Trump in every way: McConnel, Rubio, Graham...Ryan, Just include the entire list of current House and Senate GOP and cross off the half dozen from the list who are not tainted by Russian money. It's easier than trying to list the ones who are owned.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
34. I suspect
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 07:52 AM
Nov 2018

There are many gop people in Congress really shaking in their shoes they'll also be exposed for knowingly taking funneled monies from putin and his corrupt friends through donors, NRA,and other groups before this is all done. Some for their campaigns ,some for themselves, and some both will prove to be a huge disaster for them all. The gop sticking with trump will destroy the party so badly it'll be decades before people trust them again. The gop is working for putin now, and when they get exposed it'll be really worse than anyone thought.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,455 posts)
39. Adding to this thread....
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 10:28 AM
Nov 2018

Another dot....why did the GOP change their platform plank to accommodate Putin/Russia wrt their aggression in the Ukraine? That was after Manafort came onboard to run Trump's campaign. Manafort had been running the political show for the Putin puppet in the Ukraine.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
41. Heads. Must. Roll.
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 10:48 AM
Nov 2018

After this is all over I want to be very sincere when I thank Donald Trump for absolutely destroying the republican party... It couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch.

But they must all be held accountable.

Autumn

(45,056 posts)
42. It's been obvious for a while. My question is what will Dems do about it?
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 11:14 AM
Nov 2018

If this is swept under the rug it will continue. This has to be common knowledge in the Senate and the House.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
53. Sounds like another House investigation and hearing...bring in McConnel, nunes and
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 09:53 PM
Dec 2018

Ryan in under oath...bring in their staff. Let's have a real McCarthy witch hunt

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
54. Assuming once Ryan is gone, he will no longer be immune to subpeonas, but is Mitch? Is there any
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 09:56 PM
Dec 2018

kind of senatorial immunity? WHat if he just refuses? WHo will make him?

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