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Sat Dec 1, 2018, 12:16 PM

Some or most (or virtually all) of you probably won't recall

that shortly after the Fuhrer was "elected", I posted a short piece about the child of a patient of mine who works very high up in the Establishment in Washington and was contacted by the incoming administration for no less than a cabinet post. The parent told me that it was declined for very interesting reasons IN RETROSPECT.

The individual, a career Republican operative (the parents are and always have been liberal Democrats) was aware that the person who is now known as Individual 1 was known to have inappropriate relationships with the Russians and there was no way in Hell that this person would join anyone whose national security credentials were so clearly compromised by the Enemy. And this person was and is, shall we say, in a position to know exactly what is going on at the "highest levels".

Now I find the most fascinating part of this imbroglio is that the Republicans are and were therefore and obviously completely aware of the seditious nature of this discount-Manchurian Candidate inhabiting our White House and have just allowed it to progress. We have no idea how much information has been passed to the Russians and God only knows who else by this West Wing crowd.

Between the sedition and the grotesqueries of the lies as well as the probable inappropriate sexual practices of at least several of the individuals here, this administration makes Caligula's look like Jimmy Carter's.

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Reply Some or most (or virtually all) of you probably won't recall (Original post)
PCIntern Dec 2018 OP
UniteFightBack Dec 2018 #1
Jarqui Dec 2018 #17
3Hotdogs Dec 2018 #22
peekaloo Dec 2018 #2
keithbvadu2 Dec 2018 #9
Deb Dec 2018 #3
leftieNanner Dec 2018 #5
erronis Dec 2018 #16
leftieNanner Dec 2018 #20
3Hotdogs Dec 2018 #21
leftieNanner Dec 2018 #29
dlk Dec 2018 #4
Scotch-Irish Dec 2018 #8
RVN VET71 Dec 2018 #12
The Polack MSgt Dec 2018 #19
QED Dec 2018 #25
FakeNoose Dec 2018 #26
Scotch-Irish Dec 2018 #30
PatSeg Dec 2018 #6
Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #10
PatSeg Dec 2018 #18
Pepsidog Dec 2018 #7
czarjak Dec 2018 #11
GoneOffShore Dec 2018 #13
Fla Dem Dec 2018 #14
alwaysinasnit Dec 2018 #15
TNNurse Dec 2018 #23
Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #24
catbyte Dec 2018 #27
PCIntern Dec 2018 #28

Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 12:29 PM

1. I think we are in for some surprises when the whole full truth comes out. Interesting Post. nt

 

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Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 03:32 PM

17. I'm still concerned whether the "whole full truth" will ever come out

In fact, I have doubts it will.

The people who enabled Trump are still in power. Trump is compromised. He is their puppet president - whether he realizes it or not.

A more sinister view of this is the Republican power brokers have known much of this all along. It was ok because they effectively got to govern through Trump. They got their big tax cut. They're stacking the courts with conservative judges that will last for generations. etc. And Russian Rubles appear to be paying for a significant part of it.

So often, when the GOP accuse, they accuse of things they themselves are guilty of. The QAnon Deep State conspiracy theory, I think, kind of blew up when their supposed prophesies fell apart. But if someone kicked around the notion that a Deep State exists that enabled and propped up Trump, that to me makes some sense based upon what we're experiencing and have seen.

The answer of whether that GOP Deep State exists will probably arrive dependent on whether we get "whole full truth". If I had to bet on it, we will not get the "whole full truth" any time soon.

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Response to Jarqui (Reply #17)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 07:44 AM

22. Wasn't some shit from Watergate just released a couple'a weeks ago? Also the Kennedy assassination?

We will know what our puppet-masters want us to know when and if they want us to know---- even if it is Muller who controls the release.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 12:34 PM

2. I just got a big whiff of 'Citizens United'.

and then there was the "Rubes for Rubles Tour" back in July featuring the lowest quality from the Senate.

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Response to peekaloo (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 01:50 PM

9. Where republicans celebrated Independence Day... in Putin land?

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 01:00 PM

3. I often wonder how many of us are aware of things we cannot share

and the toll it takes on those burdened with keeping those secrets.

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Response to Deb (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 01:27 PM

5. I think about Robert Mueller every evening

He has been living with the filth and sewage of the Trump administration swirling around him for this very long time. And he cannot go home after work and unburden himself with his wife, perhaps a fine single malt in his hand. Neither he nor any of the individuals who are working on this investigation can discuss what they have discovered with anyone outside of the very secure office. This is why there are no leaks.

OK, so he can probably enjoy that single malt. I would send him a bottle of 40 year old Macallan if I could. ($24,000!!!)

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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 03:11 PM

16. If he doesn't accept, I know someone who could safely store that bottle for you.

The contents may slowly evaporate but the bottle will be safe!

It takes someone with a lot more fortitude and patriotism than most of us to be in such a hot seat. I hope Robert Mueller gets all the accolades that this country and world can give him when he exposes the trump/russian/$$$ rot.

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Response to erronis (Reply #16)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 06:20 PM

20. What a thoughtful offer erronis!

It is funny how that stuff can evaporate! If I had anything beyond a 15 year old Macallan, I would be pleased. Good stuff. We discovered it when we traveled to my niece's wedding in the Highlands. She met a Scot in a pub one night during grad school in Edinburgh and now they have three children.

I think Robert Mueller isn't interested in accolades, but he will be pleased to bring this garbage all out into the open and hopefully make things right.

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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #20)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 07:42 AM

21. Does your son-in-law speak English?

I was on a tourist boat on the Themes. There were 2 Scot couples with us. They talked to us a couple of times and I couldn't understand what they were saying. Then one held out his camera and I got the idea.

On the way back, they offered us a drink. Again, no idea until they held out a glass and pointed to us.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #21)

Mon Dec 3, 2018, 02:28 PM

29. He does

He was raised partly in the Highlands and partly in Australia. His Dad worked on an offshore oil rig.

I know what you mean about the accent though!

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 01:12 PM

4. It Has Always Been the Entire Republican Leadership - Trump Had Lots of Help

Trump couldn't have pulled off this alone. He's far from smart enough. This conspiracy runs through the entire Republican leadership as we are all soon to learn.

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Response to dlk (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 01:33 PM

8. And it won't matter. They control everything, and ignore the laws that are not convenient.

 

There will be no repercussions.

We have to sign into our accounts online, and wait for a text to verify we are who we say we are. Our voting machines have no such security. I'm sorry. I just don't trust the process. And when I see Russian technicians get on our airwaves and tell us how they hacked the votes, nobody does anything. What, then, is a "democracy"?

This will continue. I see no way to stop the republican runaway train. Sorry for being so glum, but the whole situation just makes me shake my head.

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Response to Scotch-Irish (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 02:16 PM

12. I agree the train seems nigh unto impossible to stop.

But we have one of the best -- no, THE best -- investigative mind in the Country as the brakeman. So it's not impossible.

And, at the very least, Mueller and the newly elected Democratic House of Representatives will lift the rocks Trump stands on so we and the rest of the world can see just how sickening and numerous are the maggots who support him.

Not as satisfying, or world-saving, as an impeachment followed by an expulsion from office of Trump and then of all of his Putin-toadying supporters in the Senate and House, but if these traitorous toadies are at least exposed to the light and scrutiny of day, it may help pave the way for increased resistance and substantive changes a bit further on down the road.

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Response to Scotch-Irish (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 06:11 PM

19. Welcome to Du Scotch Irish

Just curious- Are you from SW PA, WVA or NE Kentucky - Because I never hear that term except around that area.


I had that one Protestant Grandma who was fiercely Scotch Irish so it stuck out at me

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Response to The Polack MSgt (Reply #19)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 09:53 AM

25. My auntie always said my grandma was Scots-Irish

but when I did some digging, I think it was my grandpa. His family settled in SW PA - Greene Co.

I found an article on Highlander migration to the US. Although the article focuses on Scottish immigrants, there is a map showing the routes taken by different groups. You might find it interesting.

The Highlander immigrants who helped build America

Read more at: https://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/the-highlander-immigrants-who-helped-build-america-1-4213493?fbclid=IwAR0kuIweUk2dPvVfgPoB6kehdWb9aw0LS9Wp1uF4eUdA1MboPx9BTCIGNAU
https://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/the-highlander-immigrants-who-helped-build-america-1-4213493?fbclid=IwAR0kuIweUk2dPvVfgPoB6kehdWb9aw0LS9Wp1uF4eUdA1MboPx9BTCIGNAU

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Response to QED (Reply #25)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 11:22 AM

26. The Scottish influence is strong in Pittsburgh

Pittsburgh is one of the very few American cities spelled with the "H" and it's owing to the Gaelic/Celtic influence. Sometime before 1900 the spelling was changed to "Pittsburg" without the "H" and there was a lot of protest. After a few years it was changed by law back to the original spelling as it has remained ever since.

One of our wealthiest, most influential citizens was Andrew Carnegie who was born in Scotland and emigrated to Pittsburgh with his impoverished parents at the age of 6 or 7 years old. He lived and grew up in the area of the Northside that used to be called Allegheny City before it was incorporated into the City of Pittsburgh around 1902. The Northside at that time was populated by a lot of Scottish and Irish immigrants, also Germans who lived in the neighborhood called Deutschtown.

The story of Andrew Carnegie fills several books, but suffice it to say that he provided employment in his steel mills for many of the Scottish, Irish and German immigrants who came to Pittsburgh in those years. Eventually steel mills popped up all over western Pennsylvania and eastern Ohio thanks to our proximity to coal, the rivers, the railroads, and the trained labor force.

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Response to The Polack MSgt (Reply #19)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 03:42 PM

30. My maternal grandfather was from PA.

 

The crowd on my dad's side were all descended from vikings. A hairy lot.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 01:29 PM

6. "Discount-Manchurian Candidate"

That's Trump! They bought him really cheap.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 01:55 PM

10. and the world pays

Putin bought a cheap puppet, but it's a high price the rest of us pay.

McConnell, Kochs, et. al., are despiccable for their aiding and abetting this treason.

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #10)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 05:13 PM

18. That's for sure

It is amazing how much damage one person can do in a short period of time. What is even more incredible are all the people who support and enable him.

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Sat Dec 1, 2018, 01:59 PM

11. The Known Known...

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 02:25 PM

13. Discount Manchurian Candidate - perfect!

I'm stealing this one.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 02:31 PM

14. They allowed it to progress because it served their purposes.

Rather than take the honorable and patriotic action of calling this person out on his Russian complicity, he was their puppet as well. And not only the congressional Republicans, but also Republican / RW pacs and organizations.They had a person in the WH who all they needed to do was put a piece of legislation in front of him and he would sign it. He has no morals and no principles and they all knew it and took advantage of it.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 03:06 PM

15. I know this would be slamming the barn door shut after the horse bolts, but I think the oath of

office taken by all congress critters should have some serious teeth so that they (Repugs) won't be able to enable another "discount Manchurian candidate." (Awesome appellation by the way.)

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 08:11 AM

23. I recall the general content.

Someone knew someone who refused to serve because they knew too much about him. Thanks for the reminder. I believe it was a smart choice to avoid this administration.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 08:34 AM

24. Very interesting. Remember the Paul Ryan & cohorts remark about Russians?

There was a leak when Ryan and several House Republicans were meeting (or standing around together), joking about Trump getting money from Russians, and others, as well. They laughed. Then Ryan said something like "this doesn't go any farther than here. We're family."

They all knew. And others were also on the side of the Russians.

The Russians have infiltrated our government.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 12:11 PM

27. This is a little off-topic, but what's up with his son? Liberal Democrats raising

a Republican bigwig? I'd be so disappointed. He sounds smart, though, not getting involved with that White House clusterfuck.

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Response to catbyte (Reply #27)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 12:25 PM

28. It's interesting:

His parentage was eccentric - you know: brilliant and intellectual but not a little weird and weird-appearing. He also may have some interesting issues personally. I really am not at liberty to say but Iím not surprised the pendulum swung

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