Has anyone seen the ads for a new political film on Obama called "2016"?

[whathehell]

I've seen the trailer run on MSNBC "Morning Joe" commercials and it looks like a hit piece.

The narrator is D'nesh D'Souza, who, apparently, has gone "around the world" interviewing

people who know, and or are related to, President Obama.

Why I feel it's a hit piece, is that D'Souza is a known conservative and

it ends up with a large picture of Obama with a voice over saying:

"Obama: You may love him or hate him, but you don't KNOW him"!

Same old "Who's the Kenyan"?, birther type bullshit we've come to know and hate.

It's scary and creepy, though, so close to the election and it's reminiscent of another

conservative hit piece about Hillary (I forget the title) which threatened to open

just before the LAST presidential election, but was ruled against by a judge who objected to

it on the grounds of it being too close to the election.

[KarenS]

1. I saw the ad yesterday afternoon on MSNBC,,,,,

and figured they must me taking money from anybody these days,,,,

[LongTomH]

2. I've seen it and it's disgusting!

[Redford]

3. I heard an ad for it on the radio

It's a hit piece on the President.

[Wounded Bear]

4. Haven't seen ads or trailers....

but it was brought up on another board I frequent.

Sounds a lot like the 'film' that led to Citizens United.

[PatSeg]

5. I've seen the ads several times now

and yes, it definitely looks like a hit piece. I checked it out at IMDB, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2247692/ and the comments and reviews were interesting. Looks like a bunch of bogus comments.

One comment subject line: "A movie for Independent Thinking American (Open-Minded)" - yeah right.

"This is a documentary of Obama's vision for America. It talks about the people that influence his thinking. Excerpts from his memoir " Dreams from my father " were used to follow his journey from childhood to manhood. The setting goes from Hawaii; Indonesia; Kenya; United Kingdom; New York. It explains what his father's dream is all about and how it shaped his character. It shows the people that were his mentors; friends that he associates with.

It also concisely explain in detail the action that he takes which confuses a lot of pundits especially the people who truly love this country (USA) whether they're liberals or conservatives.

This is a riveting and thought-provoking movie. It shows where our country is headed. We can always agree and disagree with issues; we can even replace political majority from one party over another... but as an American; we only have one COUNTRY and it is IRREPLACEABLE.

This is a MUST-SEE movie for open-minded individual. " Love him, Hate him but Do You Really Know HIM?"


Sounds more like a promo than a user's review!

[whathehell]

22. Yes, and I'm worried about its effects because it's so close to the election.

The Right Wing will flock to it, and Dems won't believe it, even if they do see it,

but I hope it doesn't affect the Independents.


P.S. Judging by your description, it does sound particularly bogus,

because Obama Sr. had MINIMAL influence on the Prez as they only had

one meeting when Barack Jr. was a child...I just hope most people

seeing the movie understand that....As for that "not knowing him" shit,

I'd say we ALL know him a hell of a lot better than anyone knows Romney!

[PatSeg]

33. That is such phony meme

"Not knowing him", as if he is some mysterious stranger that just suddenly appeared. There are people out there who buy into all the conspiracy crap, though I believe most of them want to have a reason to not trust him.

I share your concern about Independents. Between this movie and the OPSEC Team ads, it is starting to get ugly. I guess we knew it was coming - been there before, but it still unnerves me.

Oh, I checked out this Special Ops OPSEC Education Fund and what a surprise to find out they are a brand new organization, a "social welfare organization" even. Of course, their donors are a secret.

[whathehell]

37. Yes, it is...A former friend (I hated to make her "former but she kept up the RW stuff), said

that once, shortly after he'd been elected and I almost blew up at her.

"What do you MEAN you "don't know anything about him", I asked, and then I went on about

his books, all that's been written about him, etc...It's ridiculous, and what makes it even more so, is his

demonstrated warmth with people..He's witty, good-natured and seems very approachable to me

When you see him with crowds, he's always smiling, reaching out, shaking hands,

and such, not exactly the "mysterious" type.

P.S. What is Special Ops OPSEC Education Fund?..I haven't heard of it.

[PatSeg]

42. They are the "special welfare organization"

that is financing the new swift-boating ads about Obama killing Bin Laden. They are so offensive. At their web site they almost make Obama sound like Bush when he kept using fear and terror as a reason to keep supporting him.

http://www.opsecteam.org/

[whathehell]

49. Thanks for the link. I watched Hardball and saw Soltz basically take their "spokesman" down. n/t

[PatSeg]

54. I saw that too

and was glad it was being addressed so quickly. Can't let this go unanswered. We've been down this road before and it didn't turn out too well.

[whathehell]

69. Yes, that bs is NOT going to happen again, not without a response. n/t

[ChazII]

41. +1

Only I heard it over the radio while station surfing.

[xxqqqzme]

68. I'm curious...

since the producer is LDS, can he use the producing expense as part of his required 10% tithe ot does LDS insist on $$$$$$$$? Just wondering if there is a loophole in their tithe/tax code.

[PatSeg]

71. Interesting point

If the producer is anything like Romney, I'm sure he's very creative with taxes and tithes.

[Progressive dog]

6. Saw ad last night on MSNBC

Actually saw it at least twice during Rachel and/or Lawrence. Sure sounds like a hit piece to me.

[whathehell]

28. Yeah...I'm sure MSNBC takes the money for any political ad, hence the oddness

of an ad like that for their shows.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

7. It's a Swiftboat job, for sure.

I wouldn't expect anything less from that tool D'Souza. He's the guy who wrote a book about Obama's "rage," which was the source of Gingrich's crap about Obama being a Kenyan anti-colonialist. D'Souza also blamed the American left for 9/11. He's a total douche, and I expect the movie to be a hit job every bit as mendacious as the swiftboaters' garbage about Kerry. I think Obama's campaign is much more likely to hit back this time, though.

[whathehell]

23. Yes, it certainly sounds like it

and anyone who claims to se "rage" in Obama is

either a liar or entirley delusional.

[stopbush]

8. D'Sousza is an idiot and a liar.

Too bad Christopher Hitchens is gone. He used to regularly shred D'Souza to pieces in their debates on religion.

[datasuspect]

10. he was an idiot and a liar 20 years ago

[IcyPeas]

9. Mitt Romney? Do we KNOW him?

[whathehell]

25. THAT is a much better question!

I have no understanding of this "I don't know him" crap...He's been in office

for four years, has had any number of books and articles written about him,

not to mention the two autobiographical books he's written himself!

[flamingdem]

11. Considering the sliming right has a billion bucks to play with

not surprising they came out with this "movie".

[xxqqqzme]

12. Saw the ad watching

the Rev yesterday - "...from the producer of 'Schnidler's List'..."

Spielberg had 2 other producers. Gerald R Molen and Branko Lustig. I'm going with Molen - who is an active member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

"...In 2012 Molen was prohibited from speaking to high school students in Montana by the principal who described him as a "right wing conservative." The cancellation of his presentation resulted in widespread criticism of the principal. The school district superintendent regretted the principal's decision saying, "...that’s not how we treat people.""...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_R._Molen

Lustig - During World War II, as a child he was imprisoned for two years in Auschwitz and Bergen-Belsen. Most members of his family perished in the death camps throughout Europe, including his grandmother who was killed in the gas chamber, while his father was killed in Čakovec by Hungarians on March 15, 1945. Lustig mother survived the Holocaust and was reunited with him after the war.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branko_Lustig

[grasswire]

16. good digging there

It never occurred to me that the Mormon Church might be actually involved in politics at this stage. Wow. The immensity of this election can't be overstated.

[whathehell]

19. Sounds like he'd be the one. n/t

[Ruby the Liberal]

13. The Hillary movie was called "Hillary, The Movie"

and was produced by Citizen's United. It was that movie that landed on the desk of SCOTUS.

[Enrique]

14. it has a major flaw which limits its effectiveness

it doesn't make sense to go back to these theories, now that Obama has been president for almost 4 years.

I actually called up and pointed this out to him when he was a guest on a radio show. I said, you have been discussing your theories about Obama for 45 minutes and you haven't said one word about anything "anticolonial" he has done as president.

He answered, ok, here's something, the START treaty. Which is obviously nonsense, and even more nonsense later when I looked up that treaty and saw that it was ratified by 72 senators. Are they all anticolonialists?

[whathehell]

18. I'm unfamiliar with the "theories" you mention....If you mean

the "birther" crap, the Repukes are still hawking it...I'd have to know what

the particular theories are in order to get your point.

[Enrique]

20. his theory is that Obama is an anticolonialist

he bases it on Obama's upbringing, especially his father, and also on his professors at Harvard. The theory had problems before Obama became president, but now that Obama has almost finished a term as president it is just downright silly.

If I could ask him a question today I would ask him about Ecuador and Assange. An anticolonial president would certainly stand with Ecuador against the UK, right?

[BumRushDaShow]

24. The "Founding Fathers" of this nation were "anti-colonialists"

which was why they advocated freedom from England and created this great nation of ours. Which means those who are anti-anti-colonial are "loyalist traitors". So Mittwitt, LyinRyan, and their surrogates and supporters, are all anti-American.

See? This is what happens when you take their nonsense all the way out to the real rather than fictional conclusion.

[whathehell]

31. Right.. I think it was Gingrich who last spouted that one. What's humorous is that:

A. Most of the RW idiots don't even know what "anti-colonial" means.

B. America itself could be described as "anti-colonial" since we revolted against Great Britain.

[BumRushDaShow]

15. "it's reminiscent of another conservative hit piece..."

Was the one you are talking about being reminiscent of this, the one that became the Citizen's United case? Could be since it was the long-form anti-Hillary ad that went to the Supreme Court.

[whathehell]

17. Yes...That's the one. n/t

[BumRushDaShow]

21. Ok

Anything by Distort DaNewza is sure to be a breath-taking slime piece. It's like deja vu all over again with the likes of Sununu and DeSousa running amok again. Waiting for Armstrong Williams (who has a slot on SiriusXM) to rear his head and the barf triumverate reanimation will be complete.

[whathehell]

32. You certainly have a way with word, BumRush!

"Distort DaNewza".

[southernyankeebelle]

26. His father is now Mitchell Davis. Crazy

[whathehell]

35. Whose father?

[southernyankeebelle]

44. According to this DVD Obama's father is Mitchell Davis. I don't know who he is but

I am willing to think he isn't a good man. God forbid. I was watching Stephanie Miller show and a caller from OH called in and said that some people were handing out free DVDs about Obama. She said it was nutty.

[whathehell]

47. OMG...That's insane. n/t

[southernyankeebelle]

53. Just think if these people put all that hate into something positive boy oh boy what a great

country this would be.

[whathehell]

65. I know...It's such a drag on the country. n/t

[southernyankeebelle]

66. So true.

[EC]

27. That film about Hillary is what brought us

Citizen's United. The film is a hit piece. Since it's about currant history - it won't mean much, the only ones who will bother with it are the already committed repub folks( no matter who the nominee is).

[whathehell]

29. Yes, I thought it was, but wasn't entirely sure..It's been confirmed by a few here now. n/t

[kestrel91316]

30. DSouza is a right wing extremist.

[Initech]

34. Dinesh is a total sleazebag - no surprise there.

[Cleita]

36. Obama can't run in 2016.

Are they for real?

[whathehell]

38. Good point..I think they're trying to sound some odious "alarm" about

what the "state of the nation" will be when Obama leaves office.

[Cleita]

39. Or they are assuming R/R will win this November and Obama being a one

term President will try to run again, like that ever happened in recent history.

[whathehell]

48. Could be...Who knows with this pack of crazies?..n/t

[Yavin4]

40. Their Bigotry Won't Allow Them To Accept A Black Man As Their Superior

So, they have to concoct ridiculous stereotypes about Obama out of whole cloth. The Obama that they rail against simply does not even exist. Eisenhower and Nixon were far more Liberal than Obama, yet Obama is a Socialist????

D'Souza proves that you can be intelligent and well-educated and still be a bigot.

[Liberal_in_LA]

43. kick

[HughBeaumont]

45. DuhSouza is a discredited creationist and shameless Red-baiting liar.

He shits and eats in the same hog waller as Jerome Corsi.

[whathehell]

46. He's a creationist?...Freaking A...I thought he had

attained something like the status of "intellectual" on the Right.

[HughBeaumont]

57. Sadly, yes.

http://thedarwinreport.wordpress.com/2008/09/11/creationist-of-the-month-club-dinesh-dsouza/

[gkhouston]

50. Is it just me or has that still of the President at the end been altered to make him look darker?

[rurallib]

51. looks like it to me also.

[gkhouston]

52. Well, as long as they didn't mention "chains," I guess it's okay. n/t

[whathehell]

59. I was wondering that myself...I think the answer it "yes",

which should be no surprise coming from the Right.

[Pirate Smile]

55. Maybe Pres. Obama really is an American anti-colonialist - you know, like the FOUNDING FATHERS!!!

[AnnieBW]

56. Are these the same idiots that made the "Stop Hillary" video?

The ones that caused the Citizens United decision?

[whathehell]

70. I don't believe they are.

Then again, there's so much hidden "funding" anymore, it's hard to know who's involved

in a given project.

[JI7]

58. is that right wing whore still around ?

[whathehell]

64. You mean Dinesh D'Souza, or as another poster here put it "Distort Da Newza"?..n/t

[WilliamPitt]

60. No one will see it.

The Ayn Rand movie bombed. So will this.

[1-Old-Man]

62. Some will, but not many. Half won't bother and the other half will have to pay

Republicans will flock to it, to the meager extent that they will flock to something they have to pay for, and Democrats won't bother with it. So you have to ask yourself, how much money will Joe-six-pack pay to watch a political movie, no action, no shoot-em-ups, no half clad young ladies showing skin, not fire, no bullets flying around? Answer, not much and not many of them will do it. So I agree with you, 'no one will see it'.

[whathehell]

63. So it seems, because it's only available on DVD, right?..n/t.

[B Calm]

61. Angers me that MSNBC would stoop that low

just to make money!

[backscatter712]

67. Can't expect any less than a hit piece from Douche D'Souza. n/t