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Perjury Chart: Trump Associates Lies, False, or Misleading Statements on Russia to Federal Authorities
https://www.justsecurity.org/61682/perjury-chart-trump-associates-lies-false-statements-russia-federal-authorities/
November 30, 2018
It is a federal offense to intentionally make false statements to Congress, the FBI, and other federal authorities. It is also a crime to encourage others to do so (that is, in technical terms, to suborn perjury). It is also a crime to engage in a conspiracy to lie to federal authorities. A conspiracy can involve a tacit or explicit agreement to commit the criminal activity.
Here is a summary of the 18-page Chart which is below (as a PDF document). It will be updated as new information becomes public. major updates will be announced on Twitter and Facebook.
Scribd document:
https://www.scribd.com/document/394786653/Perjury-Chart-Trump-Associates-Lies-False-Or-Misleading-Statements-on-Russia-to-Federal-Authorities
It is a federal offense to intentionally make false statements to Congress, the FBI, and other federal authorities. It is also a crime to encourage others to do so (that is, in technical terms, to suborn perjury). It is also a crime to engage in a conspiracy to lie to federal authorities. A conspiracy can involve a tacit or explicit agreement to commit the criminal activity.
Here is a summary of the 18-page Chart which is below (as a PDF document). It will be updated as new information becomes public. major updates will be announced on Twitter and Facebook.
Scribd document:
https://www.scribd.com/document/394786653/Perjury-Chart-Trump-Associates-Lies-False-Or-Misleading-Statements-on-Russia-to-Federal-Authorities
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Perjury Chart: Trump Associates' Lies, False, or Misleading Statements on Russia to Federal Authorit (Original Post)
Roland99
Dec 2018
OP
Just realized Peskov is the likely source of Kremlin confirmation of Cohen contact!
Roland99
Dec 2018
#4
PJMcK
(22,037 posts)1. They all lie (n/t)
Jarqui
(10,126 posts)2. I added a key one to the bottom
1. Jeff Sessions
(1) probably lied to Congress about his communications with Russian government officials and (2) possibly lied to Congress about his knowledge of other campaign members contacts with Russian government officials (starting Jan. 2017)
2. Jared Kushner
made material omissions on his security clearance forms (January-June 2017)
7. Jared Kushner
(1) probably lied to Congress about his knowledge of the reason for the June 9 Russia meeting in Trump Tower and (2) possibly made false statements about proposing a backchannel to Russia (July 24, 2017)
3. Michael Flynn
lied to the FBI about communications with the Russian ambassador (Jan. 24, 2017)
4. George Papadopoulos
lied to the FBI about his Russian contacts (Jan. 27, 2017)
5. K.T. McFarland
probably lied to Congress about knowledge of Flynns phone calls with the Russian ambassador (July 2017)
6. Michael Caputo
probably lied to Congress about his contacts with Russians (July 13, 2017)
8. Michael Cohen
lied to Congress about the Moscow Trump Tower Project (Aug. 28, 2017)
9. Jerome Corsi
lied to the FBI about his efforts with Roger Stone to communicate with Wikileaks/Assange (Sept. 6, 2017)
10. Donald Trump Jr.
(1) probably lied to Congress about receiving offers of assistance from other foreign governments; (2) probably lied about candidate Trumps advance knowledge of the June 9 Trump Tower meeting; (3) made a false statement about whether any of the Russian members of the June 9 meeting requested a follow-up; (4) possibly made false statements about the Trump Tower in Moscow deal (Sept. 7, 2017)
11. Roger Stone
(1) probably lied to Congress about how and when he learned of Wikileaks possession of Podestas emails; (2) probably lied in denying advanced knowledge of any content of Wikileaks documents on Hillary Clinton (3) probably lied about his communications with Wikileaks; (4) probably lied about his contacts with Russians; and (5) made false and misleading statements about his communications and relationship to the campaign (Sept. 26, 2017)
12. Carter Page
probably lied to Congress about his contacts with Russian officials (Nov. 2, 2017)
13. Alex van der Zwaan
lied to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and a Ukrainian national with active ties to Russian intelligence (Nov. 3, 2017)
14. Natalia Veselnitskaya
(1) probably lied to Congress about her connections to Russias Prosecutor General Yuri Chaika and (2) probably lied about attempted follow-up to the Trump Tower meeting (Nov. 20, 2017)
15. Paul Manafort
lied to federal authorities about his ties to Kremlin-link Ukrainian political parties (starting Nov. 23, 2016, later dates include Feb. 10, 2017)
16. Rick Gates
lied to federal authorities about his ties to Kremlin-link Ukrainian political parties (starting Nov. 23, 2016, later dates include Feb. 10, 2017)
17. Erik Prince
(1) probably lied to Congress about his secret Seychelles meeting with a Russian and (2) probably lied about his relationship to the Trump campaign (Nov. 30, 2017)
18. Robert Goldstone
probably lied to Congress about his email to Donald Trump Jr. (Dec. 15, 2017)
19. Dmitry Peskov, Press Secretary/Right hand man for Putin
https://www.vox.com/world/2018/11/29/18117910/michael-cohen-trump-tower-moscow-mueller
The Kremlin originally denied ever responding to Cohen, with Peskov saying on August 30 2017 that we do not react to such business topics. But on Thursday, shortly after Cohen pleaded guilty, Peskov changed the story. Later we called and asked why they wanted to have meeting in presidential Administration and explained that we have nothing to do with construction issues in the City of Moscow, he said in a statement.
Also, remember, there are a number of sealed indictments that are likely to add to this list
As well, the liar-in-chief and his thousands of documented lies is not on that list.
#19 is a zinger because it shows Putin's right hand man lying to cover for Trump => how can they reasonably argue there is no 'collusion' with the Russians when Putin is lying with the rest of Trump's cabal?
People lie for a reason.
How can someone possibly say with foundation that there is no conspiracy here when all those instances of lying to law enforcement/congress about Russia are going on? It's so implausible it's ridiculous to contemplate.
192 charges so far
33 people indicted
3 companies indicted
Many more indictments sealed and very probably many more to come including state level indictments
A number of guilty pleas have been received for crimes like:
lying to congress/law enforcement
bank fraud
tax evasion
campaign finance
money laundering
conspiracy
failure to report foreign bank accounts
Witch hunts denigrate and persecute political opponents for things they did not do.
Guilty pleas are admission of crimes by the people who committed those crimes.
It is pretty obvious where this is all leading.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)4. Just realized Peskov is the likely source of Kremlin confirmation of Cohen contact!