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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat is your opinion of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez?
She is a progressive firebrand that is already being attacked by FOX News and right-wing media outlets.
Some in the Democratic Party see her as a breath of fresh air, the future of the progressive movement in the Democratic Party. She may seem young and immature at times, but her heart is in the right place.
She is a fighter. When she is attacked, she responds in kind.
Like Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi before her, she is quickly becoming the new target for right-wingers to hate.
bdamomma
(63,812 posts)that's what we need right now. It's time.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Not afraid of any one. I'm enjoying her reported comments. We'll find out next year if she's an effective legislator.
kentuck
(111,069 posts)She makes some valid arguments.
charliea
(260 posts)I've seen the right wingers bash her as uninformed, bash her background, insinuate she's a liar because she bought a new suit for her new job ("doesn't look poor to me" , and complain that she's a liberal looney. I can only skim so much of that swamp but I've never seen any mention of the fact that at 17 (from wikipedia):
Ocasio-Cortez attended Yorktown High School, graduating in 2007,[20] where she won second prize in the Intel International Science and Engineering Fair with a microbiology research project on the effect of antioxidants on C. elegans' lifespan.[21]
This is a big deal, at least to me. The people who achieve this level of scientific recognition are driven, focused, and brilliant, IMO. The fact that she's directed those talents that toward ends that I completely approve of may cloud my opinion but damn, if she proves to live up to my expectations I'd expect her to be running for President in 2028, hopefully after 8 years of clean-up by a Democratic president Warren/Harris/Biden/Sanders/<your choice here>
I really liked her tweet response to Huckabee.
#RESIST
Power 2 the People
(2,437 posts)sheshe2
(83,710 posts)I think you meant to use the word 'firebrand'...not 'fireplug'.
Thanks!
sheshe2
(83,710 posts)voteearlyvoteoften
(1,716 posts)She is brave and up against a lot of hate. So be well AOC ,and be careful of the crazies.
Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)A lot of them are sexist, insecure men and their biggest fear is to be overshadowed by a woman.
Texin
(2,594 posts)and the citizens of Brooklyn were receptive to the truth and to her message. I don't know how well she'll do in Congress when it convenes or whether her voice will be drowned out. Somehow, though, I don't believe she'll be silenced.
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)She's owning it
spanone
(135,803 posts)👍🏼
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)Polly Hennessey
(6,793 posts)like her spunk. She spits right back at the spitters.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,318 posts)All the more reason to love her.
dae
(3,396 posts)saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)"I don't belong to any organized party, I am a Democrat."
Autumn
(45,019 posts)Is she suddenly decided to run for president in 2020 I would support the hell out of that idea. Yeah, I know it can't happen, that darn age thing.
Stinky The Clown
(67,776 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,179 posts).
Young, driven and not putting up with shit from anybody.
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virgogal
(10,178 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,179 posts).
The jury is still out on that. He father dies while she was in her second year at BU, which set her back a bit.
Shirley Chisholm was able to get her MA at 28, but AOC is a Rep, which Shirley didn't become at that age.
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Celerity
(43,250 posts)Very, very intelligent too.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez won a prestigious science-fair prize for research involving free radicals
https://qz.com/1481551/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-won-a-2007-isef-science-fair-prize-for-her-microbiology-research/
Newly elected lawmaker Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is known for being the youngest woman ever voted into Congress, speaking up for immigration reform, and pushing for Democratic socialism.
She knows how antioxidants affect roundworm longevity, too.
In 2007, Ocasio-Cortez won a prize at the Intel International Science and Engineering Fair in microbiology. The ISEF isnt your standard panorama-filled science fair: Its the largest pre-college scientific research event in the world. She entered in her senior year of high school with a project on Caenorhabditis elegan (C. elegan) lifespan extension, with her findings indicating that antioxidants could potentially help prevent degenerative illnesses induced by oxidative stress.
Link to tweet
Alumni of the International Science and Engineering Fair have gone on to create major companies, win the Nobel Prize, and now Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has become the youngest member of Congress, said Maya Ajmera, president and CEO of the Society for Science & the Public, and publisher of Science News.
snip
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)science and scientists aren't respected enough.
We had a Brookhaven Lab physicist run in the Congressional primary, and she came in dead last.
Whether he did it or not, I'm convinced that the accusations against Neil deGrasse Tyson had the Luddites jumping for joy. Not because of the nature of the accusations, but because the status of a scientist is taken down.
OnlinePoker
(5,719 posts)She wants to keep radicals free.
Yosemito
(648 posts)She wants to change the party without destroying it, like Sarandon or Stein.
I think doing so displayed a maturity and level of political savvy I haven't always seen from other progressives.
The reality is that, when you look at non-biased survey's of political attitudes, the country is decently left of center on economic issues but solidly centrist on social issues. However, due to 30 years of right wing propaganda, too many American's don't realize that they actually support leftist economic policies. Having a solid progressive agenda but working on it from the mainstream is going to be a more successful strategy than trying to start a revolution.
George II
(67,782 posts)....Kirsten Gillibrand, and others?
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)when there is a microphone in front of you
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)BlueWI
(1,736 posts)Shame her into humility, as quickly as possible!
Since humility is obviously the standard across the board...(not at all).
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Some folks are better as prophets.
We shall see.
cilla4progress
(24,723 posts)On Twitter.
She gives as good as.she gets!
One example: she posted that as a waitress she paid more for her health insurance than as a congressperson!
still_one
(92,110 posts)news are afraid of her I think are not correct in their analysis. Like Hillary and Pelosi, they are using Representative Cortez as a rallying point to energize their base
That is what Republicans and fox news have been doing for some time now
They are not afraid. They are racist, sexist, bigoted, and just plain evil, using these progressive women to incite their base
kentuck
(111,069 posts)She is the point person for their attacks on progressivism. They always need an enemy that their followers can hate.
still_one
(92,110 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)IMO that is a right wing talking point. Republicans fear her because she has charisma, because she has that rare ability to change the narrative, that's why they fear her.
"She may seem young and immature at times, but her heart is in the right place." Those are right wing talking points IMO.
Medicare for all or single payer health care isn't an immature, wild, pie in the sky talking point. The health care system that we have now is what is crazy. We don't insure everyone. We pay as much as 10 times for our health care as other nations with worse results. Statistics just came out, in 2017 our life expectancy went down, that is unheard of.
Let's talk about OAC's policies, issue by issue. I'm on board.
brewens
(13,557 posts)The 1% certainly has government working well in their interest. That's where most of the tax dollars go.
Shell_Seas
(3,330 posts)She is further left than my brand of democrat and I have been upset about how she treated Palosi; However, I really like hew quick whips back at Fox, and I have began rooting for her in an underdog-like fashion.
watoos
(7,142 posts)we need more Democrats like Joe Lieberman. Do I need the sarcasm thingy?
John Fante
(3,479 posts)AOC's policies aren't all that radical, and they're favored by the majority of Americans. She's what a center-left Democrat should be.
melman
(7,681 posts)Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)I like a small number of her ideas. Others not so much.
watoos
(7,142 posts)silverweb
(16,402 posts)She is, I hope, representative of the Democratic Party's future. We need more like her, with her unabashed genuineness, vibrancy, bold eloquence, passion, and ability to motivate others in a more progressive direction. She's also shown the ability to negotiate and compromise (to a point) without betraying her values.
Some of the media playing her down as a server/bartender is highly deceptive, as she is very intelligent and well educated, graduating cum laude with her degree in international relations and economics.
Her youth is a magnet for other young people and a bonus for us. The party needs more young leaders preparing themselves to take up the reins from those leaving office. There were other young people elected this year, as well, who I hope will do wonderfully, but AOC has shown special leadership qualities.
CincyDem
(6,346 posts)...and my hope for her is that she can translate her personal energy and purpose into systemic change. I think she can and I'm looking forward to seeing how she grows into the role. And the fact that she's the new target tells me that the opposition agrees with me.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)Wait and see, she has an opportunity to serve her constituents. If she serves herself, shame on her.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)AOC is the future of the Democratic Party... she's already shown the kind of progressive leadership this country needs and she hasn't even served one day in Congress yet.
Just wait!! She's gonna be awesome!!
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)not prone to faint praise, nor unrealistic expectations. I await the proof of "awesome".
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)over those of her constituents, and "shame on her" if she does, is not.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)Are you being fair? Did I say, "shame on her"? No problem, I am distracted today by events beyond my control.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,367 posts)Meantime learn as much as as she can on the issues and keep an open mind. If shes to make the most of her talent that is.
blogslut
(37,992 posts)PoorMonger
(844 posts)She made some missteps early , I dont love her campaigning against long time Dems out in other states. I just think its hard enough for us to win some places - and so its not a good idea to pit Ds against each other when we dont have to.
Still, I support her ideals and I think she is learning the ropes in a positive way. She led protests outside Pelosis office , but for a good reason, and she defended Pelosi against Seth Moulton. Maybe shes a pragmatist for this but it also makes sense for a progressive; when shes pointed at thr right opposition thats awesome.
I believe her when she says that she cares for people and thats very important. She has a genuine way about her that is rare. She also clearly knows how to grab attention. Sometimes it might be a little much when we are in election season but I also think that her media savvy could humanize government and thats great.
She might not be polished yet. But I admire her fire. Dunno what shell do in the future but Im excited to see her grow as she gets her bearings.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,159 posts)(First let me get this out of the way and say that while Tim Tebow was rather heavy handed with his evangelical Christianity, as a person he did a fair enough job practicing what he preached. He has done some genuinely good charity work over his time in the public spotlight. So he doesn't rub me the wrong way as much as some other prominent evangelicals.)
But that's neither here nor there regarding this analogy.
So Tim Tebow was the quarterback for the Florida Gators college football team from 2006-2009. During that time he won the Heisman Trophy in 2007 and saw his team to the National Championships in 2006 and 2008. Needless to say, as a collegiate player, his career was highly successful.
However, his rush-heavy style of play was far more suited towards the college game than the NFL, and his passing mechanics were rather clunky. Nonetheless, his success in college had him picked in the first round of the 2010 NFL Draft by the Denver Broncos.
He played his rookie season with limited backup work, and in 2010 was initially the backup quarterback to Kyle Orton. However, after the Broncos benched Orton after a 1-3 start, Tebow was given the opportunity to start. Tebow's play would be sporadic, with his throwing mechanics still questionable. However, the Broncos themselves turned their season around after Tebow took over, and many people attributed the change to Tebow's presence and enthusiasm. Over the rest of the season, enthusiasm for Tebow reached a fever pitch as he lead the Broncos to several come from behind victories. An 8-8 regular season record was enough to clinch a playoff spot for the Broncos. In the initial Wild Card round, Tebow managed to upset the heavily favored Pittsburgh Steelers 29-23 with Tebow throwing the winning touchdown in overtime. However, their season would come to an end in the next round, getting routed 45-10 by the Patriots.
Nonetheless, Tebow was the major story for the Broncos in 2011 and "Tebowmania" was a national phenomenon. However, when soon-to-be Hall of Fame quarterback Peyton Manning became available via free agency, the Broncos decided to decline another season with Tebow at the helm and instead signed Manning as their starter.
Tebow's huge legion of fans--partially attributed to his personal religious beliefs--were upset at this slight, and they saw Tebow's 2011 season as a harbinger of greater NFL glories to come. He was traded to the New York Jets, and all through training camp his fans demanded he be the starter. This put great pressure on the Jets, who already had a starter in Mark Sanchez. The pressure to start Tebow by his fans persisted through the regular season, and finally saw Tebow replace Sanchez, but Tebow promptly broke several ribs and stayed out the rest of the season.
Tebow's fans were as upset with the handling of Tebow by the Jets as they were about the Broncos. They insisted that Tebow was still a high caliber starting quarterback. And the fact of the matter was that Tebow would have been more than qualified as a backup on any NFL squad, and given the right conditions and training, could possibly make his way back to the starting job for the appropriate team. However, the insane circus that surrounded Tebow caused by his high pressure and demanding fans turned NFL teams off Tebow. Finally, the New England Patriots agreed to sign Tebow as a backup, but with their starter being Tom Brady, there was no chance he'd see any real playing time. The Patriots ultimately released Tebow. The Philadelphia Eagles picked him up for preseason in 2015 but cut him before the regular season began. Tebow has not played football since. He is now playing minor league baseball for the New York Mets.
Like Tebow, I see Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as having some unrefined talent, talent that under the right circumstances could be cultivated for future leadership down the road. However, her worst enemy--like Tebow's--is her own rabid and demanding fanbase, who sees her right now--as a 28 year old freshman--as the sole hope and savior of the Democratic Party, and any reminder that she is still a newbie in politics with much to learn is immediately shouted down. If her fans keep this self-sabotaging behavior up, they will ruin her reputation before she has a chance to learn, and she'll be out of politics like Tebow is out of the NFL.
She's a promising young woman, but painting her as the messiah of the Left and demanding she be placed at the head of the pecking order in the Democratic Party simply because she won a seat in a highly Democratic district is going to hurt her. Her fans need to ease off a bit on the gas and let things progress naturally rather than rushing her.
dhol82
(9,352 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)Suffice it to say that I disagree with your analogy. Religion has nothing to do with this. Fan base has nothing to do with this. Tim Tebow was a perfect QB for college, if I owned a pro team I would never have considered drafting him. Everything played out with Tebow the way I expected.
The other team fears OAC, the other team never feared Tebow in the pros.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)You expressed my concerns. I like her a lot, but hope her fans don't: 1) prod her to start believing her own hype and forget why she's there; and/or 2) make everyone so sick of them, they turn her off, as well.
Time will tell. In the meantime, I think she's great and wish her well.
aggiesal
(8,909 posts)Tebow's weakness was throwing on the run when he scrambled to the right.
Being a left-handed thrower, this would make sense.
But most quarterbacks can complete about 33% of their throws rolling out, on their off hand,
while Tebow was only completing about 10%.
Tebow rolling out to the left, was unstoppable.
So teams started blitzing from his left side, forcing Tebow to throw against his off hand and his numbers took a severe dive. His career soon ended, because he could not cover that weakness. It will always be there to exploit.
AOC is now playing with the pros.
They are going to poke and probe her, to try and find her weaknesses.
The great ones modify and cover their weaknesses, so it forces her foe's
to find other weaknesses.
I hope this promising start, allows her to become the young star that the democrats need in congress.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)I agree that she shouldn't be considered a messiah.
Nevertheless, even before being sworn in, she's accomplished something important. She's shown that progressives who are willing to fight within the Democratic Party can win. Not that they'll always win, but she refutes the view that the party is impervious to change from the left.
In just one Democratic campaign, she put more democratic socialists into Congress than the Green Party has in its entire history.
The ironic thing is that some people who are loudest in their denunciations of the Greens are also those who miss no chance to bash Ocasio-Cortez -- even though she represents the alternative to the Greens for progressives.
wryter2000
(46,025 posts)I wish the news would stop covering her as if she were the second coming of Jesus of Nazareth
LiberalLovinLug
(14,168 posts)They LOOOOOOVE reps like AOC that they can invite to come on their shows as much as they possibly can. And AOC, being a politician, and a young energetic new politician, you can't blame her for accepting all the appearances and coverage.
They like to create the horserace. They like pitting extremes against each other. They want to create an image, a personality, and a mission statement for her.....without her help thank you very much. She would get in the way. Her endorsement of Pelosi was something they were probably disappointed in because it didn't fit their narrative and molding of her as the radical lefist face of the Democratic party.
And one of the problems with these cartoon caricature molds that the MSM news wants to create to make their jobs easier, is destructive to having real dialogue. That it becomes not about the actual ideas, platforms, but personalities. Look what they did with Sanders. His policies are just normal policy in most other democracies around the world...universal healthcare, maternal leave, livable minimum wages, even when a Conservative party is in charge. But he is now seen as a radical leftist to even a few Democrats.
I fear that overexposure and the systematic 'creating' of the news by news networks we see now, she is in danger of becoming a caricature of herself, to be used as a prop in a narrative. And if that happens, it is very difficult to re-brand yourself, to erase the story that the MSM have deliberately and carefully crafted you into for the public to see.
wryter2000
(46,025 posts)Celerity
(43,250 posts)Hopefully AOC can avoid all these pitfalls, she certainly is intelligent enough to see them.
this (I am a dual citizen and go back and forth between California and then the EU all the time)
Look what they did with Sanders. His policies are just normal policy in most other democracies around the world...universal healthcare, maternal leave, livable minimum wages, even when a Conservative party is in charge.
is profoundly spot on
Qutzupalotl
(14,296 posts)I always liked her personally. Most of my fear was coming from her endorsement/promotion by Randy Credico, who is a close ally of Roger Stone the Ratfucker. That was coupled with her calls and work to primary established Democrats, so taken as a pair it suggested she might be a plant.
Now I see that Credico has essentially flipped for Mueller and has harshly criticized Trump on Twitter. Also, now that AOC has stopped trying to primary Dems and has turned her guns to Republicans, I like her a lot more.
Its good to be on your guard and know who youre dealing with, but in this case my fears were overblown. I now think shes a good asset for us. She sounds a lot like Bernie but without being Bernie, you know?
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)She has some verbal miscues in the beginning, but I've liked what she's said since being elected.
She kicks ass on Twitter defending herself from RW attacks. There must be a reason that Fox News and their ilk are attacking her, so that raises her in my eyes as well. They fear her and what she represents - she's smart and progressive, she's Latina, she's a woman, she's attractive and young. Everything Fox hates.
Bucky
(53,986 posts)I trust she'll adapt and develop over time. It's great for the country to have young leaders.
I think our next president needs to be younger than me (I'm 55, so young for a DUer). I won't even look at a 60+ candidate in 2020.
(after the convention, of course, I'll shut up and march in line)
djacq
(1,633 posts)Dont have to answer to anyone except your district.
Represent!
H2O Man
(73,524 posts)I joined her campaign during the Democratic primary, before she was being taken seriously by "experts." She is exactly what I, as an old man, want to see: an agent of positive change. She represents the power of the younger generation.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)oldlibdem
(330 posts)Instead of that right wing jerk Stivers!
kimbutgar
(21,103 posts)But the right wing has started to make her the new anti Hillary Clinton. She is a villain over there and she hasnt even served in Congress yet. She will be their new whipping girl. I like it though that she pushed back and doesnt take shit.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,618 posts)When my team drafts rookies, I always give them the benefit of the doubt, but tend to wait and see how they do over the long haul.
Ms O-C looks good, for the most part. We'll see how she works with others going forward.
ZeroSomeBrains
(638 posts)She seems smart on her feet and capable of holding her own against the trolls. She probably has a lot to learn but we all do on some issues. Her heart is in the right place and wish her good luck on her many duties as congresswoman-elect.
matt819
(10,749 posts)And she has the potential for so much more. And what a role model - for girls and boys!
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)Loff her
SharonAnn
(13,772 posts)No one is perfect, but she brings forward new and brave ideas.
Were a democracy, she brings great ideas to the table.
DinahMoeHum
(21,783 posts)I think she'll turn out OK. She'll look, listen and learn.
watoos
(7,142 posts)dlk
(11,537 posts)She's bringing a missing voice to the conversation and it will be interesting to see where she goes with it.
Marrah_Goodman
(1,586 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)A district that just lost a lot of clout.
I don't think much more can be assumed at this point. It is going to be interesting to see if she takes part in the making of the sausage or if she just lobs bombs from the outside. I am of the belief at this point in time that she wants to be involved and is intelligent. The learning curve is going to take a little while for her. At this point she is a loud freshman without the clout in DC that her predecessor had.
Her persona today is completely media driven. The media had very few chances to back up the internets false narrative of the strength of the "Sanders Wing". The whole "Sanders Wing" mantra simply never manifested into very much. She is currenly a media creation as they had little else to build on the false narrative.
I think she is an opportunity for us. I find little difference between her and her predecessor outside of the fact that he had clout and was deeply involved in the process. Neither of which can we say about Ocasio. She has an opportunity to do a lot of good.
Right wingers seem to mock her like they do Sanders. It is much different than what they do to Clinton and Pelosi.
shanti
(21,675 posts)and I'm old. Time for new blood.
Mira
(22,380 posts)a good one. I want many of the newcomers to take heed and follow.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,400 posts)when she was running around inserting herself into other candidates' primary challenges (I felt a like she was a bit "out of her lane" but I feel better about her now, knowing that she is not out to sabotage the party and I admire her tough-as-nails, no-holds-barred-but civil approach to fighting back against the Republican smear machine. We need more like her.
47of74
(18,470 posts)I think AOC has a bright future ahead of her.
Fornicate Faux News and the Reich Wing echo chamber that keeps attacking her at every opportunity.
hurple
(1,306 posts)And that's not a misogynist comment about her looks.
She's amazing! In every way.
She's the future!
And it's scaring the ever-loving $h!t out of the GOP.
MineralMan
(146,281 posts)I wish her every success. She is still one of 435, though, and may not be able to do everything she would like to do.
watoos
(7,142 posts)She is going to be attacked by the Left and Right, just like Al Franken was.
Franken and OAC have the ability to control the narrative, that is why the right fears her.
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)I too liked that she spoke up for Pelosi and she recognized those new people need experienced people with them.
She is smart and calm under pressure. I do not suspect she will be corrupted, I think she is a real person with real life knowledge.
I suspect some old GOP Rep will be stupid enough to call her "little girl" or something. I think he will regret it.
rainy
(6,089 posts)Last edited Tue Dec 4, 2018, 02:25 PM - Edit history (1)
as a democracy!!!
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)past her grasp very soon and it's going to cause her some issues.
barbtries
(28,787 posts)i'm over Bernie though. she came through for Nancy Pelosi. time will tell.
Joe941
(2,848 posts)TexasTowelie
(112,063 posts)MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)Azathoth
(4,607 posts)If she seriously applies herself to learning Washington policymaking and politicing, and she resists the urge to demogogue and hog the spotlight when she's not yet ready for primetime, she could evolve into a powerful and lasting force within the party. But that will require a couple election cycles, and the temptation to overstep and become a shooting star is very high for inexperienced, newly-minted political celebs.
Charlotte Little
(658 posts)But she definitely has potential. And I'm thrilled we have such young blood entering the ranks.
Joe Nation
(962 posts)....as the most hated Democrat on the planet. I like her already. Go get 'em Alexandria!
kennetha
(3,666 posts)seems to think that politics is a matter of wish fulfillment, not hard pragmatic work, that requires compromise, sometimes getting behind half measures.
But she's "authentic" ... she wears her rawness and naivety as a proud badge of honor.
I don't expect her to accomplish all that much, but I do expect her to be beloved, in the way that Bernie Sanders and O'rourke are loved, by people who basically see politics as an exercise in wish fulfillment.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,013 posts)lilactime
(657 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,366 posts)I like her fire and passion.
I just want to see whether she can actually work with others to accomplish the goals that we all want to see accomplished.
Magoo48
(4,701 posts)I love it when she says that you cant take corporate money from the corporations youre attempting to reign in.
marble falls
(57,061 posts)Devil Child
(2,728 posts)MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)I don't think she has cast a single vote as a congresswoman yet. So how am I supposed to have an opinion yet?
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)I see great potential for her political future and eagerly await seeing her in action. I respect her fire and willingness to respond to attacks towards her.
The right hates her because she is a Democrat. They hate her even more because of her unapologetic progressive views. They most certainly despise her that in addition to the above she is also female.
George II
(67,782 posts)....with women like Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi.
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)I didn't read the OP as doing so. I agree that like Clinton and Rep. Pelosi, Rep. Ocasio-Cortez is quickly becoming a frequent target for rightist propaganda attacks.
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)I was holding my tongue.
Iggo
(47,545 posts)Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)We are lucky that we elected a new generation of potential leaders. Not all will turn out to be long term stars, but some of them will be and that is how we will seize the future. AOC is in my opinion particularly promising. I sat up and took notice from the moment I saw her bio based primary campaign ad, powerful straight forward stuff.
Because Alexandria is the youngest woman ever elected to Congress, and because she defeated a powerful well established Democratic Congressman in her primary, it was natural that national media would turn a spotlight on her. She's done damn well with it. Not perfect but who is? I'll take her batting average any day, and she is still just earning the ropes. She is earnest, she is smart, she has fire, and she is very likable also.
Having faces like AOC associated in the public eye with the Democratic Party will be a huge boost in solidifying younger voters identification with Democrats, and that spells huge problems for Republicans moving forward. Count me as a strong supporter of hers.
DFW
(54,328 posts)I will wait until the "-elect" part is dropped from her title. THEN I'll have something with which to form an opinion.
fierywoman
(7,679 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)get the red out
(13,460 posts)She hasn't been in politics very long, so I don't have an opinion of her fully formed yet.
Ccarmona
(1,180 posts)There are other Progressive rookies in the incoming House class that will be as effective as AOC.
There are some moderates, who hate Bernie, have lumped her in the same pigeon hole and are trying to take her down already. Thats not good for the Party, at all. Give her and the other rookie Progressives time to find their way.
LakeArenal
(28,809 posts)Her zeal and impetuousness can be misunderstood and seemingly naive at times.
All should settle well when shes been around as long as Nancy Pelosi.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)for her for President one day.
Bettie
(16,083 posts)she has energy, enthusiasm, and idealism. She believes that she can change things and wants to make things better for all of us.
I dislike how hated she is by some around here.
Vinca
(50,249 posts)I bet Pelosi looks at her and sees herself many, many years ago.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)She says a lot of the right things, things I agree with, but she says them in such a way as to turn non-millennials off I think.
I also think she's going to step in a giant hole at some point and make everyone realize she is under-qualified. I like my politicians at the highest level to have some experience in state government. Bernie was a mayor and Obama was a State Senator, just to name a couple.
Real governing is about more than your pet projects and what you strongly believe in / campaign on. We need to fund stuff, some stuff we don't like or is not high on our list. In short order she's going to be casting votes for military spending, prison maintenance, drug interdictions, law enforcement and everything else. Each vote she casts is going to change voters view of her. Is she going to vote for military funding? Is she going to vote for our prison industrial complex?
I was just in NYC, and the Bronx is changing. Gentrification has expanded there from other parts of NYC. Will she change her platform to reflect a changing electorate? Will the future electorate want the Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez that won a lightly attended primary vote in 2018?
Quemado
(1,262 posts)We need more politicians like her.
womanofthehills
(8,685 posts)I love how she uses Twitter to keep everyone updated. She's a new kind of congress person.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)She is brutally honest (look at her instagram) and if she stays that way and washington doesnt change her, the sky is the limit; it is birtually impossible to undermine her authenticity, she hides absolutely nothing. I am hoping for a new era of transparency in our governemnt as she seems to be disclosing exactly how much she is being paid, what benefits and perks she is getting, etc. w/o holding back. We are the employer of congress. She has a skills that in short supply within our party - the ability to set a narrative and control the message. She never let defamations go unresponded like so many dems do including Pelosi and Clinton. She is fearess and we badly need it righy now. I hope shell fight gop in the open and counterset their narratives and she is correct to demand dems do the same especially the experienced ones. I like how she is always welcoming and smiling and does not surrender to anger - great antidot to gop. Dems have brilliant legislators, talented lawmakers, etc. but we need to market it better. E.g., dont say abortions - say doctor/patient priveledge to make decisions without government interference, dont say gun control - say strengthen 2nd amendment by ensuring well regulated measures are in place, etc. GOP has been better with this and their RW infrastructure.
LonePirate
(13,412 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)OnDoutside
(19,949 posts)I'd be concerned that Republicans are now going to make her the new hate figure, because of her profile.
VOX
(22,976 posts)She has a tendency to shoot from the hip at the moment, without adequately thinking through some issues. She just needs some time in office to learn where/when to best pick her battles.
A very promising newcomer.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)She seems so much more on top of policy than I ever would have given credit to anyone so young.
And, as she's the go-to, flavor-of-the-month, lightning rod for people who pretend throwing chum into the water is 'discussion,' I'll certainly give her credit for getting a lot of roaches to scurry into a brighter light.
And to be honest, the more she's minimized and trivialized and demonized by RW idiots with concave brains, the more attractive her mere existence becomes to me.
LeftInTX
(25,201 posts)Since she's in a safe seat, I think she will remain a firebrand. Her seat is immune from right-wingers.
We'll see how she does with the nitty gritty of congress. Her biggest worry in the future would be a primary.
I think she has been put on a pedestal by some and vilified by others. None of it warranted.
moondust
(19,966 posts)Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Climate change absolutely needs to be our spotlighted issue. For her to understand that while others don't is impressive.
However, I don't trust her to understand that she doesn't have to respond to every issue and every attack.
betsuni
(25,442 posts)Not one of those scripted ones. Life as a new member of Congress. People need to know how the government works, make public service attractive. Might be hard to make it exciting but I'd watch something like that.
Raine
(30,540 posts)on lots bof things but I love her fighting spirit!