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H2O Man

(73,308 posts)
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 03:59 PM Dec 2018

Jason Rainer's Modus Operandi

Modus Operandi: the characteristic method of doing a particular thing.


In order to fully appreciate what route the Mueller investigation will be taking this month in order to connect the coordination between Russia and the Trump campaign, we need to examine the modus operandi of Jason Rainer. Who the heck is Jason Rainer, some might be asking? Older forum members will recall that “Jason Rainer” was the super top secret code name of one of the “rat-fuckers” from the Watergate scandal. He is perhaps better known today as Roger Stone.

Roger began as a scheduler for the Committee to Re-Elect the President (CREEP). In that capacity, he used his real name. But when the people in the White House and CREEP determined it to be necessary to infiltrate and disrupt the various campaigns in the Democratic primaries, Roger began to serve in a dual role: as Roger, he continued to be part of CREEP, while as Jason, he did the creepy things that were not to be connected with Nixon's official re-election efforts.

Criminal investigators approach their job by considering what, who, how, and why. (Prosecutors are not required to prove “why,” but frequently do.) Hence, the Trump-Russian investigation focused on what happened during the 2016 election – and to cover it up, and who was likely involved. Roger Stone's stupidity in publicly running his mouth during the campaign regarding the stolen e-mails made him an obvious “who.”

Roger had been an active member of the early Trump campaign, but then an attempt to publicly create distance was taken. In other words, he had become a “cutout,” or intermediary in a clandestine operation. This is, of course, the same role that Jason Rainer served during the Watergate era.

As a cutout, Jason Rainer had off-the-record communications with people in the White House and CREEP. He was tasked with finding various “dirty tricks” operators, traveling to various locations secretly, handling secret funds, getting mail at a secret PO box, making secret reports to his superiors, and manipulating the media. This was, up until 2016, the high point of Roger's life.

When the infamous burglary at the Watergate happened, Jason Rainer not only transformed back into Roger Stone ….but Roger began telling his co-conspirators that he had done nothing illegal. He was willing to testify to the Senate's historic Ervin Committee, although the Committee's report noted that his testimony was different on key issues than that of others.

Certainly, Mr. Mueller is fully aware of Jason Rainer's Watergate adventures. It serves as the model that Roger used in 2016, with the significant differences being the changes in technology. More, in Roger's mind, whereas Watergate was a domestic operation, the Trump-Russian operation was internation. It offered the old fool an opportunity to try to recapture the glory days of his youth.

These days, of course, Roger is again eager to tell almost everyone that he didn't do anything illegal. The difference is that he isn't willing to talk to the Senate Committee.

Peace,
H2O Man

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Jason Rainer's Modus Operandi (Original Post) H2O Man Dec 2018 OP
Fingers Crossed That Roger Heads To A Prison Cell Me. Dec 2018 #1
Right. H2O Man Dec 2018 #2
... Me. Dec 2018 #3
I think you're going to get your wish coeur_de_lion Dec 2018 #4
Well Christmas Is Coming Me. Dec 2018 #5
I think we all H2O Man Dec 2018 #10
Yes indeed malaise Dec 2018 #17
Thank you for this important bit of history, my dear H20 Man! CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2018 #6
Thanks! H2O Man Dec 2018 #8
Thanks for the info! kentuck Dec 2018 #7
Thanks! H2O Man Dec 2018 #9
I had no idea coeur_de_lion Dec 2018 #11
What is funny H2O Man Dec 2018 #12
They all think they are geniuses coeur_de_lion Dec 2018 #13
Question coeur_de_lion Dec 2018 #15
This is something that has bothered me since the election. Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2018 #18
Great minds think alike coeur_de_lion Dec 2018 #20
Amazing he has avoided prison so far. BSdetect Dec 2018 #14
If it looks like dog shit, smells like dog shit, it's dog shit. Firestorm49 Dec 2018 #16
K&R Scurrilous Dec 2018 #19

H2O Man

(73,308 posts)
10. I think we all
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 11:50 PM
Dec 2018

are going to be happier as time goes by. Today's three court filings are powerful. I liked where they talked about the Russian contact talking about "synergy." It reminded me of my saying the investigators and prosecutors liking synergy in my essay two days ago.

malaise

(267,787 posts)
17. Yes indeed
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 03:29 PM
Dec 2018

It's happening as predicted- too good.
Roger is going down for the last time. As the experts say, Mueller is on top of this.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,296 posts)
6. Thank you for this important bit of history, my dear H20 Man!
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 08:36 PM
Dec 2018

It provides a glimpse into the mindset of these traitors and how they move through time. And how they leave a significant trail, too.



H2O Man

(73,308 posts)
8. Thanks!
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 11:42 PM
Dec 2018

Roger's problems are rooted in his believing himself to be a genius, which he is not. The thing is, an experienced criminal probably knows 10 to 15 ways to cover their trail. A really, really good one might know 25 to 30. And a genius might know 50. But good investigators have 100 ways to catch them. Stone hasn't learned this by 2018, which reminds me of something Rubin used to say to me: "Wise people learn from others' mistakes, most of us learn from our own, but fools -- they just don't learn.

H2O Man

(73,308 posts)
9. Thanks!
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 11:47 PM
Dec 2018

I was tempted to go into greater detail about Stone's testimony to the Ervin Committee, but thought it was better to just focus on the behavior pattern. I find it fascinating. What is strange is remembering Watergate, and believing then it would forever be the lowest point for any presidency. I loved the televised hearings. A few years later, reading the Ervin Committee's full report, I knew it was worse than the public had known. But it pales when compared to current events.

H2O Man

(73,308 posts)
12. What is funny
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 12:12 AM
Dec 2018

to me is that he thought his contributions to CREEP were so imaginative. I've seen better at the local level.

coeur_de_lion

(3,662 posts)
13. They all think they are geniuses
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 10:09 AM
Dec 2018

They were sure they would get away with this, with Russia's help.

They couldn't have been any more obvious.

coeur_de_lion

(3,662 posts)
15. Question
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 11:45 AM
Dec 2018

I remember reading here a few weeks ago that Stone was tampering with the election by being in touch with electors in the electoral college. I dunno bribing or threatening them.

Do you know if that is true?

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
18. This is something that has bothered me since the election.
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 11:32 PM
Dec 2018

It just never made sense to me that after SO MUCH damning and damaging information about trmp became public, ALL of the people begging the EC voters to at least take a reasonable look at what was being revealed, that they (WI, etc.) still put him in office.

So much of what a jury is tasked with begins with "What would the REASONABLE person think . . . " I found it unbelievable that that the EC voters were never swayed to at least question his placement. That he did not win the popular vote being the most serious contention among them. They subverted the will of the people and look where we are.

I thought an investigation was in order at the time and I still do.

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