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Sat Dec 8, 2018, 12:43 AM

Could this be our next president and vice president of the USA?

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Reply Could this be our next president and vice president of the USA? (Original post)
SummerSnow Dec 2018 OP
cilla4progress Dec 2018 #1
sarah FAILIN Dec 2018 #5
a la izquierda Dec 2018 #10
PatSeg Dec 2018 #15
oberliner Dec 2018 #16
sarah FAILIN Dec 2018 #24
oberliner Dec 2018 #25
LisaL Dec 2018 #30
sarah FAILIN Dec 2018 #32
mercuryblues Dec 2018 #36
Hortensis Dec 2018 #19
Joe941 Dec 2018 #6
PatSeg Dec 2018 #13
cilla4progress Dec 2018 #22
PatSeg Dec 2018 #23
Liberal In Texas Dec 2018 #2
InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #3
TeamPooka Dec 2018 #4
lostnfound Dec 2018 #9
Mr. Quackers Dec 2018 #20
TeamPooka Dec 2018 #21
DFW Dec 2018 #7
JI7 Dec 2018 #8
JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2018 #11
oberliner Dec 2018 #18
PDittie Dec 2018 #12
Vinca Dec 2018 #14
oberliner Dec 2018 #17
Guppy Dec 2018 #26
oberliner Dec 2018 #27
Guppy Dec 2018 #28
sarah FAILIN Dec 2018 #33
Guppy Dec 2018 #34
sarah FAILIN Dec 2018 #37
Guppy Dec 2018 #38
Persondem Dec 2018 #29
Power 2 the People Dec 2018 #31
elocs Dec 2018 #35
WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2018 #39
Polybius Dec 2018 #40

Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2018, 12:45 AM

1. Love them but -

2 white guys??

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Response to cilla4progress (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 8, 2018, 03:05 AM

5. Is Beto a "white guy"

Don't shoot me but I thought he was at least part Hipanic. Even if he is, he isn't Dick Cheney "white guy".

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Response to sarah FAILIN (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 8, 2018, 07:37 AM

10. I don't think he is.

But I could be wrong.

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Response to sarah FAILIN (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 8, 2018, 08:22 AM

15. He is white

4th generation Irish American.

From Wikipedia: His family always called him "Beto", a common Spanish nickname for first names ending in "-berto", initially to distinguish him from his namesake grandfather.

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Response to sarah FAILIN (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 8, 2018, 08:43 AM

16. Yes, he is a white guy

 

Not Hispanic in any respect.

What do you mean when you write " he isn't Dick Cheney "white guy" " ?

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Response to oberliner (Reply #16)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 09:47 AM

24. I didn't know his lineage

From his name and coloring I thought he was at least a quarter hispanic. Where I'm from Robert is shortened to Rob or Robbie.

As for the Dick Cheney "white guy" comment, Cheney is an old pinkish white war profiteer that made his money on the blood of others and actually shot someone without getting in trouble for it. The other poster used the term "white guy" Cheney is the most extreme version of that that I imagine. Personally I think this idea of eliminating anyone based on their melanin levels is ridiculous. We should be picking the most qualified and best equipped candidate no matter their color. This whole diversity argument is going to split us up into factions that won't do anything but ensure we get a less electable candidate imo.

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Response to sarah FAILIN (Reply #24)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 10:32 AM

25. Gotcha

 

No problem at all.

I understand what you are saying about Cheney now.

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Response to sarah FAILIN (Reply #24)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 11:33 AM

30. Him using "BETO" was the thing Ted Cruz made fun of him for.

Using Beto suggests that he is Hispanic while in fact he is Irish.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #30)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 08:45 PM

32. Well I didn't follow his race closely and didn't know that.

I know very few people that live here that can say they are straight up anything. Everyone I know "from here" is a melting pot mix up of multiple backgrounds. I'm Dutch and American Indian that I know of. No idea where the rest came from. If I weren't so paranoid I'd do an ancestory dna test.

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Response to sarah FAILIN (Reply #24)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 09:12 PM

36. He is from El Paso

It is on the Mexican border. The sun shines there 302 days a year. IOW you can't live there your whole life without having some degree of tanned skin. It also has a very high Hispanic and Latino population, which accounts for using Beto as a nick name.

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Response to sarah FAILIN (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 8, 2018, 08:49 AM

19. :) Irish Catholic white, like Joe3. And if we run #2whiteguys,

Irish Catholic or otherwise, I'll go eat one of those wafers.

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Response to cilla4progress (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 8, 2018, 03:40 AM

6. Being a little racist?

 

Race, gender, age - it shouldn't matter. Judge based on ideas and message please.

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Response to cilla4progress (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 8, 2018, 08:18 AM

13. I love them too

but we have so many great choices, we need more diversity.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #13)

Sat Dec 8, 2018, 12:19 PM

22. Right on!

Our ticket must be more representative of our party!

Lead the way!

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Response to cilla4progress (Reply #22)

Sat Dec 8, 2018, 01:17 PM

23. Yes

Much like the House now looks. I love that our party looks like America.

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2018, 01:40 AM

2. It could happen.

As Judy would say.

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2018, 01:51 AM

3. Highly doubtful... but I certainly could live with it.

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2018, 01:56 AM

4. No. 140 years since anyone made the jump from the House straight to the White House nt

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 8, 2018, 07:35 AM

9. And the time scale for crooked TV host to President is?

Trump convinced us all, “ hell, ANYONE can get elected”

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Response to lostnfound (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 8, 2018, 09:32 AM

20. yes, but

 

established norms and institutions are only for Democrats!

Whenever I hear anyone talk about the Presidency like old rules still apply, it really makes you wonder.

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Response to lostnfound (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 8, 2018, 12:13 PM

21. False equivalence.

False equivalence is a logical fallacy in which two completely opposing arguments appear to be logically equivalent when in fact they are not. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency.

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2018, 04:12 AM

7. Anything COULD be. It's all speculation at this point

If they're thinking about it, then the smartest thing they could do is start preparing a fundraising apparatus, get backers, make contacts in Iowa and New Hampshire, and make sure the press never gets wind of it until a year from now. It's far from likely, but then how seriously did anyone take Donald Trump four years ago?

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2018, 04:13 AM

8. nope, most likely it will come down to Kamala Harris and Beto O'Rourke

one of them will win the nomination and they will pick the other to be VP .

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2018, 07:40 AM

11. I see four people in the car. Which two are you talking about?

Any of the four would be an improvement over Trump/Pence.

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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 8, 2018, 08:47 AM

18. You think the OP might have been talking about O'Rourke and Kennedy's wives?

 

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2018, 08:17 AM

12. No

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2018, 08:18 AM

14. If they're the nominees, they've got my vote. Love them both.

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2018, 08:45 AM

17. Perhaps the Democratic Party can consider nominating qualified women of color?

 

I promise they exist.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #17)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 10:42 AM

26. No one has the electricity that Beto has

 

and I hate to say it but it would lead into the argument that we are too "politically correct".I think the better argument that a qualified minority woman id youth vs. ol and the future vs. the past.

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Response to Guppy (Reply #26)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 10:50 AM

27. What about Kamala Harris?

 

She seems pretty electric to me and is not all that much older than O'Rourke.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #27)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 11:07 AM

28. I was at a democratic political function last night

 

in Gwinnett county. It was celebratory as we swept the county with democrats. This was thought to be a ridiculous notion just 5 years ago.The only one we missed was Carolyn Bordeaux who lost by 419 votes out of 280,000. The consensus was that Kamala was not dynamic. She is also from California. That is tough to overcome. That would be like Cuomo from NY. NY and CA are not the best places to run for President from.

Kamala doesn't bring the millennials out. Beto is electric to them. Did you see him playing the air drums on the Who song "baba O'reilly.

No one in either party can do that. He made Cruz seem like he was 70 years old and they are the same age.

Also this is probably unfair but can you recall a woman ever delivering a speech or moment where people will run through the proverbial wall.

It is probably conditioning but that is how our society is and it is no time to make a "statement" of gender breaking. It is time to win and crush and Beto is our best chance.

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Response to Guppy (Reply #28)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 08:51 PM

33. I like Beto, but..

With him not beating Cruz as crappy as Cruz is I can't see him winning the whole thing yet. He has energy and people like him, but I'd rather see him as VP. I want a winning ticket.

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Response to sarah FAILIN (Reply #33)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 08:57 PM

34. Winning in Texas is almost impossible. No democrats

 

have won statewide since Ann Richards. Even though Cruz is terrible it is still Texas. That would be like a republican winning in CA.

Who do you have on the top of the ticket?

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Response to Guppy (Reply #34)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 10:42 PM

37. Not sure yet

I like Kennedy, but I also like Biden. I would prefer Michelle but that won't happen.

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Response to sarah FAILIN (Reply #37)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 10:49 PM

38. Biden is too old

 

Joe Kennedy has no more real experience than Beto and has very little recognition. Beto has it all.

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 11:29 AM

29. Doubtful. BUt I would easily vote for either or both over anyone from the GOP clown car posse nt

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Response to Persondem (Reply #29)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 12:48 PM

31. +1

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 09:01 PM

35. I think on the Left there would be those offended that neither was a woman or a minority.

And they will throw a fit about it. So no, I don't see them that way.

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 10:51 PM

39. Jesus, no.

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Response to SummerSnow (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 10:55 PM

40. Two Irish Catholic Congressmen (one former)?

I'm fine with it, but a little more diversity would be nice. Also, the last House member nominated for President was eons ago.

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