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OMAHA, NB (CBSMiami/CNN) An elementary school principal in Omaha, Nebraska is on administrative leave after asking teachers to not celebrate Christmas in classrooms.
Principal Jennifer Sinclair sent out an internal memo which included a list of Christmas-related items and activities that could not be used in class at Manchester Elementary School.
Items ban included images of Santas or Christmas items on worksheets, trees in classrooms, singing carols, playing Christmas music, making ornaments and candy canes.
According to Sinclair, the J shape of a candy cane is for Jesus and the red and white colors represent his blood and resurrection.
https://miami.cbslocal.com/2018/12/07/principal-bans-candy-canes-because-j-shape-stands-for-jesus/
I've been eating candy canes for 40 years in December, and it never crossed my mind about it being a J, this is crazy.

jcgoldie
(12,046 posts)...she means well I suppose.
Polybius
(19,504 posts)It's just that it doesn't stand for Jesus.
marble falls
(63,910 posts)Or is she being disrespectful of other's holidays????
Mariana
(15,450 posts)Although it doesn't seem her ideas got the support she expected from the school board. Oopsie.
Ilsa
(62,602 posts)It creates a hook to hang them on a tree or the opening of Christmas stockings.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)The candy maker made the candy in the form of a J, which represented the name of Jesus and the staff of the Good Shepherds. He then stained it with three stripes which showed the scourging Jesus received, and symbolized the blood shed by Christ on the cross. When you break the cane, it reminds us that Jesus' body was broken for us.
https://www.spanglercandy.com/our-brands/candy-canes/legends
Edit to add: Snopes says this legend is made-up.
Ilsa
(62,602 posts)I'm >60 years old and candy canes have never meant this to me, and I had a very devout upbringing. I have never heard this from anyone.
I think it's an urban legend (maybe originated by Fox?) to attempt to put Christ into Christmas to start an argument.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)But maybe others had and believed it to be true? I don't know.
Mariana
(15,450 posts)It probably hasn't been widely told because it is so ridiculous even most fundies roll their eyes at it.
2naSalit
(96,148 posts)being made of mint! I'm deathly allergic to mint so I try not to socialize during mint enhanced festivities.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)But everything is possible. I know some people that have water allergies, strange, but true,certain conditions in the air (musts, rain) can really ruin their day. I am not allergic to anything that I have ever come in contact with or have been around, except maybe republicans, but that is a horse of a different color.
Roland99
(53,345 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)(actually i'd be totally unsurprised to discover Sinclair is, in reality, quite religious)
Raine
(30,725 posts)no one is supposed to have fun of any kind anymore..
Mariana
(15,450 posts)The fact that she singled out Christmas only, along with her sarcastic comments about people feeling stressed over the very mention of Christmas, lead me and a few others to think she's a fundie who really believes in The War on Christmas and did this to stir the pot. She must have been shocked to be suspended from her job, I'm sure she expected the school board to back her up.
Here's a link to the actual memo. It is enlightening.
https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/omaha.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/1/c1/1c179b6f-9909-5281-9ad5-50e58c821956/5c097f95f2e6b.pdf.pdf
dalton99a
(87,449 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(123,712 posts)I get that public schools aren't supposed to promote religious holidays, but no candy canes because they are symbols of Jesus? They are hook-shaped so you can hang them on things, FFS. Sometimes people really go overboard...
tblue37
(66,318 posts)Besides, a capital "J" has a crossbar on top, and "Jesus" starts with a capital "J" because it is a proper name.
Danmel
(5,365 posts)But this is seriously stupid.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)The candy maker made the candy in the form of a J, which represented the name of Jesus and the staff of the Good Shepherds. He then stained it with three stripes which showed the scourging Jesus received, and symbolized the blood shed by Christ on the cross. When you break the cane, it reminds us that Jesus' body was broken for us.
https://www.spanglercandy.com/our-brands/candy-canes/legends
Note: Snopes says this is a BS myth.
Mariana
(15,450 posts)I wonder if she heard about it in church.
Docreed2003
(18,120 posts)At least one candy maker does market candy canes as being representative of "jesus":
https://www.spanglercandy.com/our-brands/candy-canes/legends
Maeve
(43,165 posts)Also known as "fake-lore"
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/raising-cane/
Docreed2003
(18,120 posts)I'm just saying, regardless of how outrageous the claims and legends, this company is claiming that ridiculous crap.
Maeve
(43,165 posts)And 'truth in advertising" is a quaint concept, anyway!
Iggo
(48,742 posts)

Docreed2003
(18,120 posts)WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)He is somewhat correct in the fact the transition from a straight peppermint stick to the Shepherd hook with stripes was originally for religious reasons. We are so far past that point, and so few know about it, that it is insignificant. What an ass.
LakeSuperiorView
(1,533 posts)Can't have those dangerous people that may, or may not, be spreading messages with the unsteadyness of gait that they may, or may not have. Can't take the risk, drill the kids on kicking the canes out of their hands as they reach the school grounds.
dameatball
(7,614 posts)could remind one of Jesus I suppose. But the entire thing is pretty silly.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)DFW
(57,522 posts)Or Johnny Carson? Or even Johan Kasimir of Poland?
One can take these things a bit too far, methinks.
Mariana
(15,450 posts)crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)They should be banned because they can easily be made into a weapon. The point is sharp after sucking on one for awhile.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Unfortunately, I'm the one who usually ends up being poked...in the eye...due to my lack of dexterity when trying to reinsert the candy cane into my mouth.
Bucky
(55,334 posts)Damn, religion makes people stupid, even in the other direction
underpants
(189,386 posts)We "planted" candy cane "seeds" - the little candy cane balls - just after Thanksgiving.
On Christmas Day out the window she saw the little ones sprouting out of the ground. I had bought 3 more progressively larger sizes and ran outside sticking them in the ground throughout the day.
Bettie
(18,021 posts)We hear it every year at the husband's family Christmas.
But the rule is still stupid.
TheBlackAdder
(29,404 posts).
Since they don't 4-chan about QAnon, they spread their crap the old-fashioned way.
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GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Caliman73
(11,767 posts)Christmas "birth of Christ" has inherent religious meaning. To many, it is a Christian religious holiday. However, most of the traditions, especially Santa Claus, trees, ornaments, etc... have been made secular. Hell, the Tree was a pagan thing adapted into Christianity to allow people to continue with their own traditions while nominally "following Christianity".
This could have been solved easily by being inclusive rather than exclusive. There are a whole range of celebrations during the "Winter Holiday Season". The principal should have just said, "If you are going to do Christmas, then also do Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, and the Solstice. Make it a cultural learning moment, don't ban things.
Initech
(104,254 posts)
ismnotwasm
(42,614 posts)Or something
lpbk2713
(43,203 posts)until school resumes in January.

lpbk2713
(43,203 posts)
Iggo
(48,742 posts)Iggo
(48,742 posts)That's because it's shaped like a cane. It's right there in the name.
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)jcgoldie
(12,046 posts)But I'm leaving it alone since I already had 3 posts removed and I would miss you guys too much!
Totally Tunsie
(10,887 posts)for "Louise". Hmmmph.
MineralMan
(148,710 posts)Anyone as stupid as that should have nothing to do with educating children.
Further, the postal abbreviation for Nebraska is NE, not NB, which is the abbreviation for New Brunswick - a province in Canada. Mail will be lost. The USPS changed Nebraska from NB to NE in 1969, after Canada reminded them that New Brunswick existed and already had that postal abbreviation. There is no Omaha in NB.
Mariana
(15,450 posts)if she isn't a fundie Fox News addict who did this to demonstrate that The War on Christmas™ is real. Where did the principal learn that story about candy canes? I was told that about candy canes in fundie Sunday School, but most posters here are saying they've never heard of any such thing.
MineralMan
(148,710 posts)They look like a cane to help someone walk to me, or a shepherd's crook. Now if someone wanted some sort of religious symbolism from candy canes, the shepherd's hook would be better, anyhow. "The Lord is my shepherd," and all that stuff.
Mariana
(15,450 posts)Whoever made up that story didn't want some vague religious reference, he or she wanted to make the candy canes symbolize Jesus.
AJT
(5,240 posts)Squinch
(54,748 posts)much attention. I often think we are playing right into their hands.
Mariana
(15,450 posts)Reading the entire thing, it's even more suspicious than I thought.
https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/omaha.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/1/c1/1c179b6f-9909-5281-9ad5-50e58c821956/5c097f95f2e6b.pdf.pdf
Bettie
(18,021 posts)started in Florida in the 19th century when a man and his son didn't have enough money to buy gifts so they decorated their trees for Jesus to show their piety or some such thing.
At these gatherings, my husband often has to place his hand on my knee to remind me that it isn't worth it to get into an argument with his sisters.
Meanwhile, at age 5, my middle son asked "who is Jesus and why should we care?". That was not a comfortable conversation especially when she asked "where do you think people came from?" and he said "Monkeys, I mean, look at us and look at them!".
Nay
(12,051 posts)because she herself is a fundy.
Mariana
(15,450 posts)ecstatic
(34,676 posts)MineralMan
(148,710 posts)WillowTree
(5,344 posts)Mariana
(15,450 posts)She was suspended for this stupidity and will probably be fired. How is it out of control?
WillowTree
(5,344 posts).is already thinking up the next aspect of traditional Christmas... .ummm .traditions to be offended by or at least seriously concerned about. This stuff just goes on and on and on.
Mariana
(15,450 posts)that gets offended over stuff like that, I don't know why you think it's "totally out of control". Unless, of course, you think the existence of even those few is just intolerable. Is that what you think?
sakabatou
(44,289 posts)LeftInTX
(32,761 posts)At least this will be a change from the "migrant caravan crisis". (Seriously it's on at the gym and they make it sound like we're being invaded by martians or something. )
AJT
(5,240 posts)trying to stir up "war on Christmas" pot.
Judi Lynn
(163,155 posts)
She has too much time on her hands.
Hekate
(96,797 posts)...RW fundy recently-made-up stories as authentic ancient Christian legend? Then claiming she's only being PC as modern sensibilities require?
That is so freaking over the top as to be unbelievable.
Mariana
(15,450 posts)Her list of banned items and activities were 100% Christmas stuff - just the way fundies imagine The War on Christmas works. There are other clues that she's a fundie, too - for example, she apologizes that everyone has been subjected to the stress of hearing or reading Christmas references.
Mariana
(15,450 posts)AJT
(5,240 posts)pwb
(12,243 posts)Like the crazy family that owns all the right wing media t v stations.
jmowreader
(52,016 posts)Christmas used to be a joyful celebration. Now it's a catalyst for bullying - and the most devout are the worst offenders. If you put up a Santa, they file suit to get a Jesus. If you put up balls and bells, they want crosses, which make no sense at all in a Christmas display - AND they want the balls and bells taken down because they're not Christian enough. Say "Happy Holidays" and you get your ass reamed by a thousand fundies. Lest we forget, Joshua Feuerstein (the fundamentalist who got his followers to give him $35,000 to buy a RED cinema camera to make YouTube videos with, then kept the money without buying the camera) wants everyone to go to Starbucks and give their name as "Merry Christmas" so the baristas will be forced to say it. And YES, the snowflakes believe exactly what Principal Sinclair says about candy canes. (On Thanksgiving my paper ran an article about one of these guys and his over-the-top, neighborhood-destroying commercial-grade Christmas display. He has always passed out candy canes with a note explaining the colors' Christian symbolism, and that if you hold the cane one way it's a shepherd's hook and held the other it's Jesus' initial.) It's totally ridiculous, folks. The fuckin' War on Christmas was over five years ago and Christmas lost.
This fine young principal finally stood up and said, "no more." Since nothing will ever be good enough to please the professionally offended Christian, nothing is exactly the Christmas decor that school should have. Good on her.
BTW...if the candy cane is really in remembrance of Jesus' death and resurrection, why don't we eat them at Easter?
Crunchy Frog
(27,455 posts)You really support that?
Mariana
(15,450 posts)I wonder how many death threats she and her family are going to receive from Christians because of this? The story has made national news, so there are likely to be quite a lot of them.
diva77
(7,880 posts)
Sneederbunk
(15,927 posts)Squinch
(54,748 posts)do get a lot of play here on DU.
I know, I know. It's so we're up on what they're doing.
Paladin
(29,799 posts)And count me among those who never, ever heard the "j shape stands for Jesus" thing about candy canes. If it were true, I'm pretty sure I would have heard of it before now.
Cartoonist
(7,579 posts)I heard Art Clokey say it was his subconscious that caused him to use the letters J and G. He was a very spiritual man.
Deb
(3,744 posts)Idiotic.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)First a teacher who blabs to her 1st grad students that there is no Santa and now some one who says candy canes are the letter J for Jesus? What happens when a little boy comes to school who's name is Jesus or a girl named Mary, or a girl named Magdalen? Common sense just about does not exist anymore.
Generic Other
(29,020 posts)Doreen
(11,686 posts)Mariana
(15,450 posts)Isn't that the correct response to this kind of behavior? By the way, I was told that bullshit about candy canes in the 1970's. It's not like she made it up, that story has gone around for a long time.
Do you really think stupid people never existed before "these days"? Read some old newspapers. You'll find this very same level of stupidity was going on a hundred years ago.
Hekate
(96,797 posts)quickesst
(6,309 posts)It's stupid.
Generic Other
(29,020 posts)Surely, there must be some overtly religious significance to fruitcake that we can get offended by and ban?
Polybius
(19,504 posts)I don't know what my grandmother saw in that every year! Yuck!
Generic Other
(29,020 posts)It celebrates the Massacre of the Innocents.
regnaD kciN
(26,847 posts)...in honor of St. Nicholas, who was Bishop of Myra (in modern-day Turkey). Yep, for those not up on church history, "Santa Claus" was actually Turkish!
OnDoutside
(20,735 posts)Crunchy Frog
(27,455 posts)Last edited Sun Dec 9, 2018, 03:42 AM - Edit history (1)
Mariana
(15,450 posts)She makes claims about her previous employers. I hope someone is looking into those claims.
Stinky The Clown
(68,539 posts)Mariana
(15,450 posts)Seriously, it reads exactly like a fundie's fantasy of The War on Christmas™ they imagine is going on in the public schools.
https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/omaha.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/1/c1/1c179b6f-9909-5281-9ad5-50e58c821956/5c097f95f2e6b.pdf.pdf
Crunchy Frog
(27,455 posts)Yeah, she's a fundie trying to start something.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Although it definitely goes a bit further.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)marylandblue
(12,344 posts)The Superintendent of Schools in Corpus Christi shocked parents as he announced that the school district was closing down since "Corpus Christi" represents the body of Jesus. "We can't allow children to go to school in a city with such a religious name," said the Superintendent. The San Antonio school district considered a similar move, but ultimately decided to.stay open because St. Anthony was "just a saint."
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,961 posts)FFS, you are supposed to learn your state abbreviations in like 5th grade.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Showing how absurdly PC the damned libruls are by making an exaggerated case.
Mariana
(15,450 posts)Oopsie. Also, she and her family are likely to receive death threats from Christians, now that the story has become widely known.
You can read the memo. It's more trollish than the news articles let on:
https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/omaha.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/1/c1/1c179b6f-9909-5281-9ad5-50e58c821956/5c097f95f2e6b.pdf.pdf
aikoaiko
(34,210 posts)Is this a thing now?
Pachamama
(17,221 posts)....and I am sure many many other things that someone with a dictionary can come up with....
This is such a ridiculous story....I could understand banning candy from school because it sugars up the kids, is a choking hazard, rots the teeth...etc.
But banning it because it looks like the letter J and is symbolic with a holiday and the first letter of the first name of a symbol of a religion?
milestogo
(19,952 posts)Even in symbolic fashion.
Iggo
(48,742 posts)Go crazy in front of the class, then get sidelined.
Candy-J Principal ain't got nothin' on this lady, though...