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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(132,308 posts)
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 03:22 PM Dec 2018

Ammon Bundy Quits Militia Movement Over Trump Backlash

Since he and his family led standoffs against the United States government, Ammon Bundy amassed hundreds of supporters. However, he saw that support wean after he criticized President Donald Trump, prompting him to quit the "patriot movement."

Bundy garnered national attention in 2014 when his father, Cliven, led a standoff against the Bureau of Land Management over unpaid grazing fees. He then became the leader of another militia movement in 2016, during the occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

Bundy, a central figure in the anti-government militia movement, recently criticized Trump’s rhetoric towards the migrant caravan at America’s southern border. Following the sharing of his opinions, which was surprising to his supporters, Bundy told BuzzFeed News that he was the instant target of a heavy backlash. Some wished he was dead or that they never supported his family during the standoffs and others claimed he was paid to switch political sides.

While he expected to get some pushback, he thought he could explain to critics why he took the positions that he did. However, his speculation that people aligned with him for reasons other than his principles and weren’t really listening was confirmed by the backlash he received.

"It's like being in a room full of people in here, trying to teach, and no one is listening," Bundy told BuzzFeed News. "The vast majority seemed to hang on to what seemed like hate, and fear, and almost warmongering, and I don't want to associate myself with warmongers."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ammon-bundy-quits-militia-movement-over-trump-backlash/ar-BBQDBIV?li=BBnbfcL

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Ammon Bundy Quits Militia Movement Over Trump Backlash (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2018 OP
K Cha Dec 2018 #1
I don't know what he's been smoking Geechie Dec 2018 #2
He didn't wake up, he's true libertarian who found out how lonely that is marylandblue Dec 2018 #8
All those days in Wellstone ruled Dec 2018 #3
bundy is the reason i got on twitter.. we were monitering and posting their movements.. samnsara Dec 2018 #4
Amon...your first mistake pecosbob Dec 2018 #5
Now he knows what it feels like to be besieged by a mass of ignorance. allgood33 Dec 2018 #6
There is no joy in freeperville today... SeattleVet Dec 2018 #7
Thank you for your service underpants Dec 2018 #9
Still supports Trump underpants Dec 2018 #10

Geechie

(1,039 posts)
2. I don't know what he's been smoking
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 03:36 PM
Dec 2018

but it seems to be working. I wonder how many so-called friends he's lost because he woke up to what they are.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
8. He didn't wake up, he's true libertarian who found out how lonely that is
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 04:42 PM
Dec 2018

There are a small number of true libertarians - they really believe that if the government went away, people would govern themselves just fine. They favor open borders because people should be free to move where they want. They it is the correct, logical libertarian position and true libertarians are logical to a fault. They don't realize their solution is unworkable because other people are not like them.

Most libertarians are fakes. They won't do the right thing without a government to make them do it. They just want the government to get out of the way of their selfishness. Life is zero sum game. They don't like immigrants because more immigrants means less for them.

He's still a true libertarian. It's likely he thinks the friends he lost were the victims of government indoctrination.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
3. All those days in
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 03:37 PM
Dec 2018

Solitary Confinement in Portland and Primm must have sunk in.. To bad the Old Man does not have a clue yet.

samnsara

(18,708 posts)
4. bundy is the reason i got on twitter.. we were monitering and posting their movements..
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 03:42 PM
Dec 2018

...I helped get one of their meeting places shut down. They were a hate filled group. I think this is too little too late.

pecosbob

(8,297 posts)
5. Amon...your first mistake
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 03:46 PM
Dec 2018

was in thinking anyone that would use the phrase 'sovereign citizen' was rational or of sound mind. Your second mistake was to think that Trumplandia was about anyone's right to do anything. Your third mistake and what started the whole circus was not to have just paid for the f*cking grass...

 

allgood33

(1,584 posts)
6. Now he knows what it feels like to be besieged by a mass of ignorance.
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 04:07 PM
Dec 2018

These people do not want to learn, understand, sympathize, or tolerate. They just want to hate. They do not care that the RW fat cats rob them everyday, and use them as cannon fodder in their war against reality. They are ready-made bots for the treasonous Trumpians.

SeattleVet

(5,815 posts)
7. There is no joy in freeperville today...
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 04:28 PM
Dec 2018

they have totally turned on another one of the people that they totally loved and supported just a short while ago. Pretty soon they will have no 'heroes' left...Tucker Carlson, Glenn Beck, Jeff Flake, Mia Love, and now Ammon Bundy, all people that they so recently were praising as their new pinnacles of right-wing nuttery, they have now thrown under the bus as soon as they didn't fully praise and honor their new orange cult leader.

It's almost fun watching them melt down. This is what happens when you get all of your 'news' from Breitbart, WND, and InfoWars; there is zero connection to reality.

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