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DetlefK

(16,670 posts)
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 05:17 PM Dec 2018

Rand Paul defends Trump by questioning whether financial crimes actually count as crimes.

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meet-press-december-9-2018-n945771

SEN. RAND PAUL:

You know, I think what's interesting about this is people forget history. The Federal Elections Commission actually ruled on this with John Edwards. They actually came up with a ruling and said that, "You know what? The paying of his mistress was not a -- was not a campaign finance violation." But I think it's bigger than this. And I think we have to decide in our society if -- there are thousands and thousands of rules. It's incredibly complicated, campaign finance. We have to decide whether or not really criminal penalties are the way we should approach criminal finance. I personally think that if someone makes an error in filing paperwork or in not categorizing a campaign contribution correctly, it shouldn't be jail time. It ought to be a fine. And so it's just like a lot of other things that we've done in Washington. We've over criminalized campaign finance.


Oopsie-doodle.

Don't you hate it when you are all innocently structuring the payoff of your mistress through a shell corporation to make her shut up in time for your electoral campaign, and then all of a sudden people start pointing fingers at you?

Or when the US has sanctions that say "Don't do business with Russia" but you really, really want to do business with Russia?

Or when you are all innocently selling US real-estate to the shell-corporation of a foreigner, for triple the price, for cash, and without a contract that documents who actually bought that real-estate and where the money came from?
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Rand Paul defends Trump by questioning whether financial crimes actually count as crimes. (Original Post) DetlefK Dec 2018 OP
That sounds like a statement from a man that is worried about his own money trail, not Trump's. dameatball Dec 2018 #1
Does his or his father's money trail go through Russia? dem4decades Dec 2018 #3
I don't know, but his recent trip to Russia raises some questions. I think maybe Mueller knows. dameatball Dec 2018 #6
Ron Paul is a regular contributor for Russia Today. DetlefK Dec 2018 #9
20committee made some allegations a while ago. dem4decades Dec 2018 #13
I live in NC and Edwards was prosecuted for that very behavior dsc Dec 2018 #2
Hmmm ... Ask Bernie Madoff! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2018 #4
Al Capone should be given a posthumous pardon for his paperwork errors dalton99a Dec 2018 #5
One can counter with if Rand benld74 Dec 2018 #7
Rand Paul must bluestarone Dec 2018 #8
Funny about that -- sticking up a 7-11 is a crime. LuckyLib Dec 2018 #10
yeah, hate when that happens Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #11
Where is his neighbor when we need him...? JDC Dec 2018 #12
I've seen a libertarian argue that TheFarseer Dec 2018 #14
He makes shit up. LiberalFighter Dec 2018 #15

dameatball

(7,649 posts)
1. That sounds like a statement from a man that is worried about his own money trail, not Trump's.
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 05:19 PM
Dec 2018

dameatball

(7,649 posts)
6. I don't know, but his recent trip to Russia raises some questions. I think maybe Mueller knows.
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 05:28 PM
Dec 2018

Crimes are crimes, financial or otherwise. Rand Paul's reasoning makes no sense and to me indicates a motive. What that motive is I do not know..

 

DetlefK

(16,670 posts)
9. Ron Paul is a regular contributor for Russia Today.
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 05:31 PM
Dec 2018

Regular interviews as well as Op-eds.

dem4decades

(13,574 posts)
13. 20committee made some allegations a while ago.
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 08:29 PM
Dec 2018

About the old man's foundation i believe.

Will Mueller investigate Russian money or is that out of his area of investigation?

dsc

(53,308 posts)
2. I live in NC and Edwards was prosecuted for that very behavior
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 05:22 PM
Dec 2018

yes he got 1 acquittal and the rest of the charges hung but he was indeed prosecuted and the man who prosecuted him is still in Congress having just won his latest race.

benld74

(10,242 posts)
7. One can counter with if Rand
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 05:29 PM
Dec 2018

Can be considered to be a Senator

Because the word is in front of his name

LuckyLib

(7,042 posts)
10. Funny about that -- sticking up a 7-11 is a crime.
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 07:37 PM
Dec 2018

Stealing from American taxpayers should be exempt!

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
11. yeah, hate when that happens
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 07:41 PM
Dec 2018

Ha!

Shuffle those shell companies in a global 3 card monte scam.

TheFarseer

(9,749 posts)
14. I've seen a libertarian argue that
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 10:24 PM
Dec 2018

A bank should be able to bury a clause in a thousand pages of disclaimer that they can just take the money in your savings account for any reason and the only recourse you would have is to write a bad online review. “If they get enough bad reviews, they’ll be out of business. That’s capitalism!” Don’t be surprised. Libertarians basically don’t believe in laws.

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