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triron

(22,023 posts)
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 01:44 PM Dec 2018

Seth Abramson on Cohen's sentence:



Seth Abramson
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BREAKING: Trump Attorney and Fixer Michael Cohen Gets 3 Years
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Seth Abramson


2/ Cohen is a nonviolent defendant with no prior record who offered significant assistance (and who will need to *continue* to offer assistance) to the feds in the most important case of our lifetimes. 3 years, felony record, massive fine is not really "light" *given* our system.

3/ Worth noting that despite his significant assistance to Robert Mueller, Michael Cohen got two months (concurrent) and $100,000 fine *just* for lying to Congress. Remember that the higher-ups in the Trump-Russia case will be looking at many more (and more serious) charges.

4/ Keep in mind also that Donald Trump Jr. *definitely* lied to Congress *many* ties, as did Erik Prince. So today's sentence underscores that Prince and Trump Jr. have already *conspicuously* committed offenses that we would expect would land then in prison (plus *many* others).

5/ Consider too that the *president* committed (legally speaking) the same offense as Cohen (as to one set of Cohen's charges) in terms of the penalty he'd face. In other words, Trump being president is really the *only* thing keeping *him* from being frog-marched off to prison.

6/ Remember too that there is a mechanism in the federal system to offer additional cooperation beyond what one has already offered *after* one is sentenced and thereby earn the right to petition for a reduction of sentence. (And there is *much* more cooperation Cohen can offer.)


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Seth Abramson on Cohen's sentence: (Original Post) triron Dec 2018 OP
Cohen paid hush money and worked with a foreign government to subvert a US presidential election LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #1
THIS KCDebbie Dec 2018 #2
at the behest of his client, tRump elmac Dec 2018 #3
I believe Cohen waived his right to seek a further reduction in the sentence onenote Dec 2018 #4
Please let Erik Prince go down for this Botany Dec 2018 #5
Has Cohen been disbarred yet? Mr.Bill Dec 2018 #6
The real question is pecosbob Dec 2018 #7

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
1. Cohen paid hush money and worked with a foreign government to subvert a US presidential election
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 01:57 PM
Dec 2018

He should thank his lucky stars that he wasn't put up against a wall and shot.

onenote

(42,768 posts)
4. I believe Cohen waived his right to seek a further reduction in the sentence
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 04:34 PM
Dec 2018

as a specific provision in his plea deal with the SDNY.

Botany

(70,588 posts)
5. Please let Erik Prince go down for this
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 04:37 PM
Dec 2018

He just happened to run into a Russian agent and middle eastern bag man in a bar in the Scheyell islands to set up back channel deals in January of 2017.

Lock em up

pecosbob

(7,544 posts)
7. The real question is
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 04:38 PM
Dec 2018

the day he leaves office will he be travelling to Rikers Island or to Leavenworth?

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