Many of us here said it from Election Night

[malaise]

He stole it and committed crimes in the process
LOCK HIM UP!

[CincyDem]

1. Well. We may have said it but...

...as you well recall, we didn’t say it here on election night.

Still pissed about that little contribution to hacking history.

[Codeine]

48. Sadly true! nt

[Maggiemayhem]

56. Are you referring to the Election Night Hack?

[CincyDem]

58. I am.

and while I have no data to support it, I'm just not a believer in coincidence. Someone thought it would be a good idea to shut down one of the most heavily travelled democratic discussion boards on the web. At the time, it may have sounded like the stuff of conspiracy theorists but, as time passes and we learn more about the scope and focus of right wing players (both foreign and domestic), it doesn't sound like as much of a leap today vs. 11/9/16.

[SunSeeker]

59. As Malcolm Nance says, coincidence takes a lot of planning.

Link to tweet

?s=19

[Ohiogal]

2. True.

How many of us could see what a hateful, dishonest, and ignorant trainwreck this dude was during the campaign? I'm amazed even five people voted for the idiot. In all seriousness ... when he first came down that escalator, I thought it was all a big joke!

[malaise]

3. Yep - I never expected him to win

But it was stolen and we knew it..
Stealing the presidency was the worst mistake of his life and there were several other serious criminal mistakes.

[apkhgp]

24. All of us NEVER expected that asshole to win

NEVER expected to have to deal with him in OUR White House.

NEVER to be dealing Kelly Conjob apologizing for him at every turm.

NEVER expected all of the other manure we have been force fed.

BUT I will tell you...We will NEVER forget the injustice that was done to us and the American people by that criminal.

[samplegirl]

37. The debates were enough for me

Never thought anyone with half a brain couldn’t see through the con.

[Maggiemayhem]

69. After the last debate, I was pretty skeptical

I switched back and forth to all the network polls and at first Clinton was winning by a landslide and suddenly Trump polls started making huge gains. Someone posted a graphic that showed the increase in traffic was coming from St Petersburg Russia. It was then I knew. I warned friends not take election for granted. Everyone was sure Hillary had won and she should have. She was robbed.

[guillaumeb]

4. There are so many "hims" to lock up.

And so much space at Guantanamo.

But the US has done so many terrible things in Cuba that putting Trump there would be unacceptable.

[dalton99a]

5. That's what happens when Republicans nominate Mystery Meat for president

No tax returns, no documentation, no questions asked.

Mystery Meat with an extensive record of hatred, corruption, criminal activity, and treasonous behavior.

[Ferrets are Cool]

6. This

[malaise]

8. +1,000

They were all in

[DemocracyMouse]

25. Mystery Meat! Hilarious!!! I'm rolling on the floor!

.... but now we must do the hard work and rebuild our democracy, one democratic institution at a time.

[Baltimike]

33. I think Russia had their hand in THAT process too

and if I were Marco Rubio, I'd be fucking PISSED about it

[Hassler]

7. Before the election he said it was rigged, fixed. He told the truth for once

[malaise]

9. He said if he lost it would have been fixed

Amazing indeed

[hughee99]

50. If I recall, many dems and DUers called him a liar

For saying that before the election.

[rickyhall]

10. I knew he was a con artist from way back, but nobody listened to me.

[maxsolomon]

55. Rubes don't listen.

I point my finger at NBC for legitimizing him.

[tinrobot]

11. When DU went down on election night, it felt like a coup was happening.

It was.

[malaise]

27. Yes

We knew

[Baltimike]

44. Yes

we knew

[kydo]

12. Yep, sure did.

What made it worse was DU was hacked and we didn't get to say it together. I have never been so mad, angry, scared and depressed as I was that night.

Today however I finished putting out the rest of the holiday decorations. I haven't done that in two years. Gonna make tamales, also something I havn't done in two years.

[HipChick]

13. "Don Dirty Deeds"....all knew he stole it...

Election result should be voided...and all actions since..should be undone...

[ProudLib72]

14. But the R senators all said it's too early to tell anything

Maybe there is something, maybe not. Who knows?








Yeah, right. Did you see Maxine on Chris Matthews? She's known from the beginning, too!

[George II]

15. At about 10 PM on election night, Hillary Clinton was ahead or very close....

....in a number of states that ultimately went for trump. In the course of about 30-40 minutes several states flipped dramatically. I wish there was a way to track the timeline of the votes.

I went to bed at 11 PM about as depressed as I'd ever been in my 60+ years.

[llmart]

18. I have maintained since that night that Michigan was stolen.

There was no way in hell he won Michigan. I knew the election was stolen. I was very vocal about that.

[Botany]

16. Look @ my sig line from that night

It was a coup and we had treason.

[malaise]

28. Yep

It was a coup

[calimary]

30. Indeed. That's EXACTLY what it was.

I’ll never forget it. None of us should.

[EndGOPPropaganda]

17. Important: SENATE stolen too. Judges need to go

Toomey, Blunt, Johnson all won with help from Trump's cheating. Since top-of-ticket helps Senate races.
There should be 3 more Dems and 3 fewer GOP in the Senate.
Kavanaugh is illegitimate. All the Trump judges are illegitimate. They must go.

[Generic Brad]

19. The next day my wife told me, "We just woke up in Russia"

Damn, she was right.

[malaise]

68. She was right

and now for the clean up.

[AllyCat]

20. We said it once we could get back on the site.

[Mira]

21. We knew.

Anybody who was paying attention also knew.

[triron]

22. Hell I suspected strongly by late summer, 2016.

[StarryNite]

26. I had a horrible gut feeling he would somehow pull it off.

People would tell me there was no way. I told my neighbor I had a feeling it would not end well. My dad kept saying the polls show he cannot win. Well he didn't actually win but there sits his big, fat, orange ass in OUR White House!

[malaise]

39. My sister in Miami is the only one of our entire family

And extended family who saw it coming. She knew something was up.

[StarryNite]

65. It was just that sick gut feeling

because to think tRump would win made no logical sense.

[HipChick]

73. My family too...we had a big fight about it..

And I was like, No,No...would never happen in America...they all laughed at me, I was seething...

[malaise]

74. That sounds like me- I did not think it could happen

[MontanaMama]

36. I knew he'd win.

I kept saying it to my husband the few weeks before and he told me I was crazy. After the Access Hollywood tape, the hubs told me that was it...that he’d lost in that moment but I knew he’d survive it. As election night results trickled in I can remember my kiddo quietly saying to me “mama, it’s happening...he’s winning”. I was a wreck fighting tears the whole night....hubs said the one thing he shouldn’t have...he said “you just need to relax...how bad could it be?” Oh baby, it was ON at the point. Worst fight we ever got into in 25 years. Events of the last two years have made him very contrite.

[LeftInTX]

70. My head was telling me Hillary would win, but my gut was telling me something else.

It was weird. The odds were against him winning all those swing states. I figured Hillary would squeak by with a slim win.

[peggysue2]

23. It was an illegitimate election and Trumpski is . . .

the Squatter-in-Chief. I've considered him illegitimate since election night and the Republicans are equally guilty.

Never forget. Never Forgive. Because they were willing to bring down the Republic for money and power, selling us all out in the process.

Lock 'em all up!

[calimary]

32. Well? That "win" of his was NOT legitimate!

No way it could be if you cheat to win, and adding insult to injury, cheating with help from a HOSTILE FOREIGN POWER. what else will it ever be but an illegitimate “win”? What else can it possibly be but an illegitimate “win”?

He sure as hell is Not My President. I don’t happen to have one. Unless it’s Hillary in exile.

[peggysue2]

35. No, the win wasn't legitimate, the primary was . . .

a sham and they're all a bunch of criminals. In addition to Trumpski stealing an election, consorting with an foreign adversary to win, he and his criminal family have been enriching themselves at the country's expense and putting us and the entire world in mortal danger. The Republicans and their spin machine foisted this maniac on the world and I hope they pay dearly for their criminal acts. As in time in prison, asset forfeiture and national humiliation.

Even that's too good for them.

Hillary in exile. That pretty much says it all. The whole debacle is disgusting.

[Blue Owl]

29. Goddamn right he did

now he needs to pay the price...

[Elwood P Dowd]

31. The only good coming from his election is the exposure

of the republican crime family. They are slowly becoming like a pack of roaches running around in circles trying to avoid the light.

[malaise]

40. +1,000

Yes there underbelly has been exposed big time- they are all crooks and liars. They don't believe in the rule of law; they should never use the word patriotism and the Constitution and truth be damned.

[Baltimike]

34. Truth will out. nt

[Neema]

38. I had a sick feeling in my stomach about that SCOTUS vacancy from the beginning.

Hillary, by all accounts, had a 90-something percent chance of winning, so it never made sense to me that McConnell would have done everything in his power to keep it open. That is unless he KNEW that Trump was going to "win." And of course he knew. Because they're all fucking complicit.

[malaise]

41. They were all in this together

I want the all in prison

[SunSeeker]

60. Exactly. nt

[LittleGirl]

42. I remember when he accepted the POTUS win that night

He looked as shell shocked as the rest of us (after we could get on DU of course).
I knew something wasn't right.
I watched from Europe and couldn't believe my eyes.
I just stared at the tv with my jaw on the floor.

I felt it was stolen that night and I've never changed my thoughts on that. at. all. it was illegitimate and stolen and I still think it was hacked.
Why would the russians hack the emails and not the election?

What we know now so far proves that he is a russian agent. It was a coup.

I want a new election and I want him and pastor pence locked up for the rest of their lives.
And take his kids too.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

43. Still want a statistician to calculate the odds of

Winning all of the states HRC lost where she was ahead in the polls.

[malaise]

52. I want details of how they stole it

That's what I want

[LeftInTX]

71. It was about 45..Hillary's were about 55

Her odds kept going down...

[Laura PourMeADrink]

72. Could you please explain? She was ahead in

The polls in PA WI MI right? Sure, within margin of error but the odds of her losing all three together?

[LeftInTX]

75. On Nov 4th, Nate Silver gave the odds 64/35.

The odds of her winning kept going down. It was this downward trend that was worrying me. People were already early voting.
He did increase the odds on Nov 8th to 71% (I don't think I checked 538 on Nov 8th) I just remember the downward trend.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/pa/pennsylvania_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5964.html
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/mi/michigan_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-6008.html
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/wi/wisconsin_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5976.html


The polls in those three states Trump was closing in. I wasn't worried about those states myself. I was worried about FL, NV, NM and Colorado.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

[Laura PourMeADrink]

77. Per Nate HRC chance of winning: MI 78.9% WI 83.5% PA 77%

The odds of losing those three (all but just those three) has got to be astronomical.

[LeftInTX]

76. Here is Nate Silver's post mortem:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-fivethirtyeight-gave-trump-a-better-chance-than-almost-anyone-else/

[The Liberal Lion]

45. donald trump DID NOT win

PA, WI, MI, and probably did not win NC, and FL.
He is not the president, and I could care a less what happened in the electoral college.
His occupancy in the White House is illegal, and everything enacted under his hand is void.
trump is an outlaw who sold out his country for personal gain. He do so both knowingly and maliciously.

[malaise]

46. +1,000

It was stolen. History has absolved me.

[Honeycombe8]

47. I didn't know it for sure. But I wondered about it online, since it made no sense...

and was contrary to the data we had. And despite what KellyAnne Conway says, it was clearly not the data that the Trump campaign had, since he thought he was going to lose. So I wondered...did Russia have something to do with it? Because it made no sense. I've seen a number of presidential elections, and the results always made SOME sense, compared to the data. But not this one.

[BSdetect]

49. As soon as the incoming FL results came in I had a horrible feeling there was something wrong

[ananda]

51. Yes we did.

And that was two fucking years ago.

I know .. the wheels of justice grind exceeding slow
but they grind exceeding fine ..

but still!

[Scurrilous]

53. K&R

[ailsagirl]

54. Damn right

[Baltimike]

57. kick

[Grasswire2]

61. Wasn't DU hacked on election night?

Or was that the primary?

Can't remember.

[musicblind]

62. It was election night n/t

[Baltimike]

63. It was during the day too. nt

[malaise]

66. Election night

Won't ever forget that

[INdemo]

64. and..the planing started back in 2014 or earlier.

I say 2014 because the Repukes gained control of Senate then..I believe that even in 2014 Russians were involved and they helped McConnell win They also were involved in the Wisconsin Senate race and others in 2016

Question though....Are there those media hosts that actually believe that Trump could be re-elected? and believe that all these federal charges against Trump just don't make any differences?

do all these Fascists like Oran Hatch believe their own bullshit?

I am hoping some morning I turn on the TV and see US Marshals escorting Trump out of the White in handcuffs.

[Sunsky]

67. Yup

Some of us were told that we were conspiracy theorists.