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linuxuser3

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Fri Dec 14, 2018, 05:35 AM Dec 2018

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empedocles

(15,751 posts)
1. Good.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 07:21 AM
Dec 2018

Amazing what some judges get away with. The losing attorney's tend to shrug and say something like, 'that's the way the game goes.'

dameatball

(7,669 posts)
2. Crap like this is one of the reasons victims do not report crimes.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 07:38 AM
Dec 2018

IronLionZion

(51,268 posts)
3. Douchebag ran unopposed in the Republican primary, and the general election
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 07:44 AM
Dec 2018
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
6. But don't criticize the prosecutor because, uh, why?
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 09:06 AM
Dec 2018

It's fascinating how people want to go after the judge for accepting the deal which the prosecutor proposed, but nobody wants to talk about the prosecutor.



https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/12/us/baylor-rape-allegation-letter-from-prosecutor/index.html

While outrage over that decision ripples across the country, both LaBorde and her boss have defended her action. Meanwhile, Anderson's attorneys have told local media that the accuser has given multiple inconsistent statements.


A letter from LaBorde to the victim and her parents shows the prosecutor was worried that jurors would end up blaming the victim and that Anderson might not be convicted because he's only accused in one sexual assault case.

"It's my opinion that our jurors aren't ready to blame rapists and not victims when there isn't concrete proof of more than one victim," the prosecutor wrote.

Here are excerpts from LaBorde's letter, sent after she accepted a plea agreement from Anderson's defense team:

IronLionZion

(51,268 posts)
10. "In a recent case, a juror said the defendant didn't look like a rapist"
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 12:20 PM
Dec 2018

"She said jurors have been loathe to convict 'an innocent looking young defendant"



I must look guilty as hell since TSA and CBP always randomly select me for extra screening. I should try looking more innocent next time.

lillypaddle

(9,606 posts)
4. K&R nt
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 08:21 AM
Dec 2018
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
5. Why is the prosecutor who offered the deal being left out of it?
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 09:01 AM
Dec 2018

These are the depraved pieces of filth who offered the deal which the judge approved:

The shithead in the middle here is the one primarily responsible:




https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/12/us/baylor-rape-allegation-letter-from-prosecutor/index.html

(CNN)To prosecutor Hilary LaBorde, it didn't matter that a grand jury indicted Jacob Walter Anderson on four counts of sexual assault. She still wouldn't take the former fraternity president to trial.

Instead, the assistant district attorney agreed to a plea deal on a lesser charge that resulted in probation -- not prison time -- for the former Baylor University student accused of raping a woman at a frat party in 2016.
While outrage over that decision ripples across the country, both LaBorde and her boss have defended her action.


https://www.wacotrib.com/news/courts_and_trials/ex-baylor-frat-leader-accused-of-rape-wins-plea-deal/article_6cea75f6-f89b-570c-93f8-5586dc1e27aa.html


The victim, who has been outspoken against the plea bargain, began to cry loudly Monday after Strother announced his decision to accept it. She urged the judge to reject the plea offer and set a trial so she could have her day in court. She said Anderson sexually assaulted her, repeatedly choked her and left her for dead after she fell unconscious.

Later, in an emotional victim impact statement, she told Strother she is devastated that he approved the plea bargain. She called out prosecutor Hilary LaBorde, who struck the deal with Anderson, and McLennan County District Attorney Abel Reyna for not attending the hearing.

onenote

(46,142 posts)
8. The prosecutor deserves as much or more blame than the judge
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 09:56 AM
Dec 2018

And how much blame she deserves is a matter that can be debated given some of the information that has come out.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
9. It's not as if it was the judge's idea not to prosecute the case
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 10:17 AM
Dec 2018

But I find it interesting that the internet outrage machine wants to focus on the judge.

I mean, hey, fuck what the VICTIM thinks - who cares who SHE blames:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2018/12/11/accused-rape-former-frat-president-gets-no-jail-time-after-plea-deal-da/?utm_term=.49eb0526dc19

In a victim impact statement she read later, she called out the assistant district attorney on the case, Hilary LaBorde, and McLennan County District Attorney Abel Reyna, neither of whom attended the hearing, the Tribune-Herald reported.


The internet outrage machine works in mysterious ways, and this one is a real head-scratcher in essentially kicking the victim to the curb and ignoring who proposed the deal in the first place.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
11. He was presented with choices. He made one. It sucked.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 12:25 PM
Dec 2018

"the internet outrage machine wants to focus on the judge."

Judge was presented with choices. Judge made one. It sucked.
Not too terribly difficult to understand. Not too damned mysterious either unless you force it to be.

"who cares who SHE blames"
but of course, you are the only one making that argument. That's seems the "real head-scratcher..." No more merit badges available for self-righteousness this month.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
12. "you are the only one making that argument."
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 01:08 PM
Dec 2018

No, the VICTIM called out the prosecutor in the victim impact statement. But, hey, who gives a shit what the victim says. Clearly you didn't read the links I posted, which include the victim's statement. Yeah, sure, I'm the only one making that argument here, because it seems practically no one else bothered to find out what the victim had to say.

The judge was NOT presented with choices. The judge was presented with a prosecutor who did not want to prosecute the case. Period.

Do you have something else to add in order to excuse the deal the prosecutor made here, or are you just here to talk about your fascination with me personally?

Dr. Strange

(26,058 posts)
15. Um...
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 01:37 PM
Dec 2018
but of course, you are the only one making that argument.


Isn't that kind of the point, though?

Numerous people are calling out the judge for accepting the plea deal, while almost no one is looking at the prosecutor who CAME UP with the deal? That seems downright odd to me.

Not too damned mysterious either unless you force it to be.


It seems mysterious as hell to me. No force required.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
16. Everyone must have the same opinion
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 02:58 PM
Dec 2018

If one person holds an opinion which is not held by the majority, then it must be dealt with, I guess.

I've never been uncomfortable to be the only one making an argument, though. It's a risk you take when you think for yourself.

Shanti Mama

(1,288 posts)
7. I read an analysis of this decision
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 09:53 AM
Dec 2018

The woman changed her story several times.
The prosecutor didn't think she could win and was certain the defense would flip it and put the woman on trial, dragging her through hell.
Although they totally blew it by not informing the woman beforehand, if memory serves me, they honestly felt this was the better decision give the laws as they are today.

Please do not take a face value everything you see in your first few seconds with a piece of news.

Delphinus

(12,522 posts)
13. Wise words you in your last paragraph.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 01:13 PM
Dec 2018

Thanks for this important reminder. In today's age, too often we don't stop and suss things out completely.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
14. Some seem to not want others to actually dig into these things
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 01:20 PM
Dec 2018

And it is almost as if they are disappointed that others encourage critical inquiry.

Gothmog

(179,867 posts)
17. This judge ran unopposed in 2016 and is up for re-election in 2020
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 11:29 PM
Dec 2018

Under Texas law, candidates have to file this time next year for the 2020 race. We need to vote this idiot out


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