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Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 09:39 PM Dec 2018

Cop Demoted After Dumping His Retired K-9 Partner At Animal Shelter

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jackson-mississippi-cop-demoted-after-ditching-retired-k-9-officer-at-animal-shelter_us_5c143540e4b049efa7525cea

Cop Demoted After Dumping His Retired K-9 Partner At Animal Shelter
The Jackson, Mississippi, police department said canine officers are “family and we do not feel they deserve anything less than a loving home in retirement.”

A Mississippi police officer has been busted down to patrol duty after ditching his retired K-9 partner, Ringo, at an animal shelter, according to police officials.

The Jackson Police Department assumed that officer Carl Ellis, who was Ringo’s handler, had continued to care for the former K-9 officer at his home after the dog’s retirement in October. Officials were later surprised to learn otherwise after Ringo’s initial trainer, Randy Hare, spotted the dog up for adoption on the shelter’s website.

“You get into this business because you appreciate dogs and what they’re able to do,” Hare told WAPT-TV. Ringo should never have landed in the shelter, added the trainer, who said dogs can often be treated like “equipment” by police departments. Hare has adopted Ringo.

“The Jackson Police Department respects and holds our canines with high regard just as we do any other officer within our department,” the department said in a statement provided to the Jackson Clarion Ledger. “They are family, and we do not feel they deserve anything less than a loving home in retirement.”

The 10-year-old dog sniffed out drugs for nine years for his department, and was also used in search and rescue operations, according to the newspaper.

When Ringo and fellow canine officer Alpha were retired in October, a Jackson detective said at the ceremony that they “served the city very well” and were responsible for the seizure of narcotics worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. He added: “They can be a dog now.”
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Cop Demoted After Dumping His Retired K-9 Partner At Animal Shelter (Original Post) Demovictory9 Dec 2018 OP
this makes me so mad. TeamPooka Dec 2018 #1
DEMOTE HIM ..... they should fire him. ALSO .... he should never be allowed to adopt a pet again. trueblue2007 Dec 2018 #47
What a jerk. madaboutharry Dec 2018 #2
Not sure a highly trained dog like that should be adopted into your average family. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2018 #6
I was thinking other cops he worked around. madaboutharry Dec 2018 #8
why is that? treestar Dec 2018 #19
He is trained to sniff out drugs, not as an attack dog Jersey Devil Dec 2018 #20
Good dog for parents of teenage children! robbob Dec 2018 #44
Oh my gosh.. can you imagine lol Kittycow Dec 2018 #57
Actually the opposite is true grantcart Dec 2018 #34
exactly TeamPooka Dec 2018 #54
We had a retired police dog JustAnotherGen Dec 2018 #53
Disgraceful, he should never have been partnered Raine Dec 2018 #3
the first trainer adopted him Demovictory9 Dec 2018 #7
Thanks for the update Raine Dec 2018 #11
I wonder if Irishxs Dec 2018 #4
Good observation. I'd bet that cop will be under the microscope. nt oasis Dec 2018 #17
Totally agree, he should've been *fired* Duppers Dec 2018 #42
What difference would that make? robbob Dec 2018 #45
I bet Rin-Tin-Tin could. Kittycow Dec 2018 #58
Or good old Lassie... robbob Dec 2018 #59
I'm glad Ringo is rid of the heartless asshole. Solly Mack Dec 2018 #5
The department says it is planning to introduce quarterly welfare checks for all police dogs, whethe Demovictory9 Dec 2018 #9
Good Solly Mack Dec 2018 #12
oh man this pisses me off on so many levels. 912gdm Dec 2018 #10
Ellis is clearly lower than whale shit. Ringo is now far better off Stinky The Clown Dec 2018 #13
Horrible! sinkingfeeling Dec 2018 #14
headline opportunity missed: HARE ADOPTS DOG Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #15
:) Thank goodness Hare('s girlfriend) was looking. The department Hortensis Dec 2018 #18
Awww! How could anyone let go of that sweet pupper? smirkymonkey Dec 2018 #21
:) Hortensis Dec 2018 #23
bravo on hare . this cutie made me melt. AllaN01Bear Dec 2018 #31
he looks huggable! Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #38
Melty huggie. :) And that's a nice thought. Maybe. Hortensis Dec 2018 #40
I'm not crying, you're crying! John Fante Dec 2018 #55
Did u ever work with someone for a really long time and not like them? dembotoz Dec 2018 #16
But he is still free to shoot all of the young black men that he wants Buckeyeblue Dec 2018 #22
Ayup. Iggo Dec 2018 #24
That was NOT the dogs' fault. Duppers Dec 2018 #43
I don't understand your reply Buckeyeblue Dec 2018 #46
This statement: "the role of dogs in the fight against civil rights" Duppers Dec 2018 #48
Oh. I don't blame the dogs Buckeyeblue Dec 2018 #49
Oh, thanks for that clarification. Duppers Dec 2018 #50
No worries. No need to apologize. Buckeyeblue Dec 2018 #52
Good grief, NO ONE thinks it was the dogs' fault. nt. Mariana Dec 2018 #62
I don't see what the problem is Rizen Dec 2018 #25
Ask a trusted adult to tell you what happens to all the unwanted sheltered animals kcr Dec 2018 #28
That's a worst case scenario. Rizen Dec 2018 #41
Putting a senior animal at a shelter is usually a death sentence n/t TexasBushwhacker Dec 2018 #51
10 years is senior for a dog? Rizen Dec 2018 #60
For a larger dog 10 is quite old TexasBushwhacker Dec 2018 #61
Euthanasia is the most likely scenario. Mariana Dec 2018 #56
A question only tangentially related: Aristus Dec 2018 #26
The K-9 officer that lived down the road from us had a SUV from the Sheriff's Department csziggy Dec 2018 #32
In the K-9 cars I have seen, the backseat is where the dog goes. Flaleftist Dec 2018 #37
He should have been FIRED, not demoted. lilactime Dec 2018 #27
Fuck that cop & on further thought irisblue Dec 2018 #29
It seems to me... tonedevil Dec 2018 #30
Makes you wonder how much attention he got the first 10 years of his life. appleannie1943 Dec 2018 #33
He should've been fired. That dog went to work every day prepared to give his life. catbyte Dec 2018 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author MagickMuffin Dec 2018 #36
Should have never been a police dog in the first place. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #39

trueblue2007

(19,251 posts)
47. DEMOTE HIM ..... they should fire him. ALSO .... he should never be allowed to adopt a pet again.
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 06:16 PM
Dec 2018

ACTUALLY I SAY ....... Lock Him up. Throw him into the slammer until he gets "adopted"...................

madaboutharry

(42,033 posts)
2. What a jerk.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 09:44 PM
Dec 2018

All he needed to do was ask around. I’m sure there were plenty of people at work who would have adopted Ringo.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,161 posts)
6. Not sure a highly trained dog like that should be adopted into your average family.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 09:52 PM
Dec 2018

at the very least, the cop should have asked for help in placing the dog.
and I wonder.....was he paid anything extra for dog's upkeep as part of the "retirement"??

treestar

(82,383 posts)
19. why is that?
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 07:37 AM
Dec 2018

once he's retired, how is he going to be different and family un-friendly as opposed to other dogs?

Jersey Devil

(10,833 posts)
20. He is trained to sniff out drugs, not as an attack dog
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 07:44 AM
Dec 2018

Any family would be fine with him. Of course, that might change if it is a family of drug dealers.

robbob

(3,750 posts)
44. Good dog for parents of teenage children!
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 06:04 PM
Dec 2018

Just saying...glad my folks didnt have one back in the day! 😁

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
34. Actually the opposite is true
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 01:18 PM
Dec 2018

Law enforcement dogs are screened and trained for very specific purposes. Attack dogs are screened and trained for working with SWAT and aggressive breach situations and would need to be retired to their handlers homes.

Sniff dogs are screened from dogs showing super compatible traits because they come into contact with the general public and don't want a "bad bite" complaint. Any sniffdog that completed 10 years of contact with the general public with no incident would be a gentle dog at home.

JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
53. We had a retired police dog
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 06:34 PM
Dec 2018

For two years when I was a kid. Rocky was extremely gentle and had a really good last three years. He was fragile the last year (13).

Raine

(31,179 posts)
3. Disgraceful, he should never have been partnered
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 09:47 PM
Dec 2018

with a dog in the first place, I'm glad he was demoted. I hope Ringo gets a furever home with a loving family.

Irishxs

(622 posts)
4. I wonder if
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 09:50 PM
Dec 2018

the officer was trying to do a little drug stuff himself, and that’s why he got rid of him. Being busted is too good for him, he should have been fired.

robbob

(3,750 posts)
45. What difference would that make?
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 06:06 PM
Dec 2018

I don’t think they train the dogs to call in hot tips?

robbob

(3,750 posts)
59. Or good old Lassie...
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 10:39 PM
Dec 2018

“What that girl? Timmies stashed his meth in the well???”

😁

Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
9. The department says it is planning to introduce quarterly welfare checks for all police dogs, whethe
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 09:59 PM
Dec 2018

The department says it is planning to introduce quarterly welfare checks for all police dogs, whether active-duty or retired,

912gdm

(959 posts)
10. oh man this pisses me off on so many levels.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 10:00 PM
Dec 2018

these animals are given protections under the law that if they are harmed by a subject, that subject will get charged as if they harmed a human police officer. And I totally agree with that.

that officer should be held to that standard and be fired and heavily fined, not demoted.

Stinky The Clown

(68,952 posts)
13. Ellis is clearly lower than whale shit. Ringo is now far better off
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 10:14 PM
Dec 2018

Man, that fucking pisses me off.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
15. headline opportunity missed: HARE ADOPTS DOG
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 04:21 AM
Dec 2018

Y'all ease your anger by focusing on that short sentence, "Hare has adopted Ringo." I'll bet Ringo has a good retirement, now.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. :) Thank goodness Hare('s girlfriend) was looking. The department
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 07:24 AM
Dec 2018

should have been at least wondering about this handler earlier, though. Vet records show the handler OFTEN dropped Ringo at a vet clinic for boarding, paid for by the department.

Back in 2000 President Clinton signed legislation allowing handlers to adopt service animals when retired. It looks like that may have turned into an assumption in some places that handlers just would. In the end, this one reportedly just called the vet's office where Ringo was again being boarded and told them to turn him over to the pound.

But as you say, Ringo's now back with the person who raised him as a puppy and looks like a happy dog.



http://kingfish1935.blogspot.com/2018/12/handler-dumps-k-9.html

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
21. Awww! How could anyone let go of that sweet pupper?
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 10:09 AM
Dec 2018

I'm glad Ringo was finally rescued by someone who loves and appreciates him.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
23. :)
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 11:46 AM
Dec 2018

It's very possible he remembered someone he was once so close to, even if in not the same way he's remembered.

 

dembotoz

(16,922 posts)
16. Did u ever work with someone for a really long time and not like them?
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 06:21 AM
Dec 2018

Happy dog has new home and all not all people like dogs or perhaps he used to like dogs

Buckeyeblue

(6,352 posts)
22. But he is still free to shoot all of the young black men that he wants
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 10:17 AM
Dec 2018

Don't get me wrong, I love dogs. Just seems ironic to me that in Mississippi, of all places, this is what it takes for a police officer to get reprimanded--the mistreatment of a dog. Let's not forget the role of dogs in the fight against civil rights.

Duppers

(28,469 posts)
43. That was NOT the dogs' fault.
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 05:59 PM
Dec 2018

These dogs are trained to follow orders. Period. They are not the racist assholes - the assholes who commanded them are.

And I agree that officers shooting innocent black citizens should be in court, answering to their unjustified crimes, and then jailed.

Duppers

(28,469 posts)
48. This statement: "the role of dogs in the fight against civil rights"
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 06:20 PM
Dec 2018

As if the dogs were somehow at fault.

What what was your point in saying that?


Buckeyeblue

(6,352 posts)
49. Oh. I don't blame the dogs
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 06:25 PM
Dec 2018

I was just trying to point out the irony of the Mississippi police being more concerned with the dogs well being than many human's well being. I love dogs.

Duppers

(28,469 posts)
50. Oh, thanks for that clarification.
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 06:30 PM
Dec 2018

I've heard people disparage police dogs for their behavior in attacking people of color, so that was my train of thought when responding to you.

My apologies. 🙏

Mariana

(15,626 posts)
62. Good grief, NO ONE thinks it was the dogs' fault. nt.
Sun Dec 16, 2018, 01:56 AM
Dec 2018

Dogs had a role in the civil rights struggle. That's just a fact. Saying so does not imply that said dogs were racist or that they were acting of their own volition.

Did you seriously think the poster believes the dogs were racist?

kcr

(15,522 posts)
28. Ask a trusted adult to tell you what happens to all the unwanted sheltered animals
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 12:31 PM
Dec 2018

It shouldn't be a stranger on DU.

Rizen

(1,081 posts)
41. That's a worst case scenario.
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 02:41 PM
Dec 2018

Putting animals in a shelter does not mean it'll die.

Rizen

(1,081 posts)
60. 10 years is senior for a dog?
Sun Dec 16, 2018, 01:22 AM
Dec 2018

I forgot dogs don't live as long as cats. I've know a few older cats that got adopted. Often by old people who don't want to outlive their pet.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,204 posts)
61. For a larger dog 10 is quite old
Sun Dec 16, 2018, 01:28 AM
Dec 2018

The bigger the dog, the shorter the lifespan. Medium size dogs like beagles live 12 to 15 years. Tiny dogs can make it to 20 years.

Mariana

(15,626 posts)
56. Euthanasia is the most likely scenario.
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 08:29 PM
Dec 2018

This is a 10 year old. It isn't a cute little puppy or a young dog with many years to live.

Aristus

(72,187 posts)
26. A question only tangentially related:
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 12:13 PM
Dec 2018

In a K-9 squad car, where does the dog go? Is there a kennel along the back seat? (And if so, where does an arrested suspect sit?) Up front in the passenger seat, "Chewbacca-style"? God forbid, in the trunk?

csziggy

(34,189 posts)
32. The K-9 officer that lived down the road from us had a SUV from the Sheriff's Department
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 12:59 PM
Dec 2018

With cages in the rear area for the dogs. I never saw the inside but there could have been a barrier for the officer's safety between the front and back seats - and between the back seat and the rear area for the dogs' safety.

That officer trained most of the dogs for the local sheriff and the police department and had obstacle courses for the dogs set up at his property. He retired quite a few years back and I am not sure where the dogs are trained now.

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
37. In the K-9 cars I have seen, the backseat is where the dog goes.
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 01:35 PM
Dec 2018

There is a barrier, just like in normal police cars. If a suspect needs to be arrested/transported, they just call another squad car. I'm sure that's seen as a perk by some, not having to transport suspects to jail and deal with whatever paperwork is involved.

irisblue

(37,512 posts)
29. Fuck that cop & on further thought
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 12:32 PM
Dec 2018

Last edited Sat Dec 15, 2018, 01:22 PM - Edit history (1)

Carl Ellis is going to be keeping his job? Uh huh

}}how many complaints, for all causes, has this guy had?{{

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
30. It seems to me...
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 12:39 PM
Dec 2018

Officer Ellis should be dropped off at the shelter. If he doesn't get adopted in a few days he can be taken to the traditional nice farm upstate.

appleannie1943

(1,303 posts)
33. Makes you wonder how much attention he got the first 10 years of his life.
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 01:09 PM
Dec 2018

Anyone that can just dump a dog at a shelter after being with it for that many years never gave a shit in the first place.

catbyte

(39,153 posts)
35. He should've been fired. That dog went to work every day prepared to give his life.
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 01:22 PM
Dec 2018

What a colossal asshole. I hope everybody in that town shuns him, but good.

Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
39. Should have never been a police dog in the first place.
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 02:28 PM
Dec 2018

Things happened to that dog over the years that these officers would have never asked family to do.

That said, these are highly trained dogs as know one understands them better than their handlers or others trained in the field. It makes great sense to keep them with an expert after retirement.

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