Mon Dec 17, 2018, 03:26 PM
Yosemito (648 posts)
Kirsten Gillibrand worried that top three Democrats are white men
Because we are a diverse nation, senator Kirsten Gillibrand is worried that the top three contenders for the Democratic nomination according to polls are white men.
When van Jones asked her whether she was nervous about it, she answered yes at the 20 second mark of this clip: Link to tweet ?s=21
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Yosemito | Dec 2018 | OP |
Chipper Chat | Dec 2018 | #1 | |
MyOwnPeace | Dec 2018 | #2 | |
brooklynite | Dec 2018 | #26 | |
Gothmog | Dec 2018 | #3 | |
Power 2 the People | Dec 2018 | #5 | |
jrthin | Dec 2018 | #8 | |
Funtatlaguy | Dec 2018 | #30 | |
brooklynite | Dec 2018 | #27 | |
WeekiWater | Dec 2018 | #34 | |
mn9driver | Dec 2018 | #38 | |
WeekiWater | Dec 2018 | #45 | |
LongtimeAZDem | Dec 2018 | #39 | |
WeekiWater | Dec 2018 | #46 | |
msongs | Dec 2018 | #4 | |
Retrograde | Dec 2018 | #14 | |
Kurt V. | Dec 2018 | #6 | |
Yosemito | Dec 2018 | #10 | |
Kurt V. | Dec 2018 | #12 | |
Dennis Donovan | Dec 2018 | #15 | |
Kurt V. | Dec 2018 | #21 | |
Proud Liberal Dem | Dec 2018 | #7 | |
borgesian | Dec 2018 | #9 | |
MrsCoffee | Dec 2018 | #11 | |
wasupaloopa | Dec 2018 | #18 | |
BannonsLiver | Dec 2018 | #13 | |
Doremus | Dec 2018 | #22 | |
WeekiWater | Dec 2018 | #31 | |
BannonsLiver | Dec 2018 | #36 | |
WeekiWater | Dec 2018 | #37 | |
BannonsLiver | Dec 2018 | #42 | |
cynatnite | Dec 2018 | #16 | |
oberliner | Dec 2018 | #17 | |
Bucky | Dec 2018 | #33 | |
oberliner | Dec 2018 | #40 | |
Vinca | Dec 2018 | #19 | |
Luciferous | Dec 2018 | #20 | |
Bucky | Dec 2018 | #25 | |
mn9driver | Dec 2018 | #41 | |
Luciferous | Dec 2018 | #43 | |
brooklynite | Dec 2018 | #44 | |
jalan48 | Dec 2018 | #23 | |
Bucky | Dec 2018 | #24 | |
AlexSFCA | Dec 2018 | #28 | |
WeekiWater | Dec 2018 | #29 | |
Funtatlaguy | Dec 2018 | #32 | |
Bucky | Dec 2018 | #35 | |
Celerity | Dec 2018 | #52 | |
shanny | Dec 2018 | #47 | |
OrlandoDem2 | Dec 2018 | #48 | |
Raine | Dec 2018 | #49 | |
MariePinchon | Dec 2018 | #50 | |
JHan | Dec 2018 | #51 |
Response to Yosemito (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 03:29 PM
Chipper Chat (8,990 posts)
1. It might have been the TOP FOUR white men
If it wasnt for her (if you get my drift)
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Response to Chipper Chat (Reply #1)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 03:34 PM
MyOwnPeace (16,214 posts)
2. Yep..........
wonder what she is working on for the other three?
(Oh, but it won't be "just her" - it will be many others, it's just her name we hear the most.........) ![]() |
Response to MyOwnPeace (Reply #2)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:17 PM
brooklynite (85,587 posts)
26. Unsupported conspiracy theory
Response to Chipper Chat (Reply #1)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 03:35 PM
Gothmog (126,644 posts)
3. Gillibrand has burned some bridges with her attacks on Al Franken
Gillibrand has been told by the major fundraisers that she will have a difficult time raising funds to run in 2020
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Response to Gothmog (Reply #3)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 03:40 PM
Power 2 the People (2,437 posts)
5. +1
Franken should move back to NY and run for her seat. What she did to him was unconscionable.
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Response to Power 2 the People (Reply #5)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 03:51 PM
jrthin (4,712 posts)
8. Brilliant idea. I would vote for him in a heartbeat over her. nt
Response to Power 2 the People (Reply #5)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:24 PM
Funtatlaguy (10,432 posts)
30. I really love that idea. He'd win.
Response to Chipper Chat (Reply #1)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:19 PM
brooklynite (85,587 posts)
27. I guess it has been at least a week since the last "I hate Gillibrand" thread...
Response to Chipper Chat (Reply #1)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:28 PM
WeekiWater (3,259 posts)
34. Isn't this person in the top two?
Response to WeekiWater (Reply #34)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:40 PM
mn9driver (3,904 posts)
38. Sanders isn't a democrat.
Response to mn9driver (Reply #38)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:49 PM
WeekiWater (3,259 posts)
45. Seems to be polling well in advance of our primary. NT
Response to WeekiWater (Reply #34)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:42 PM
LongtimeAZDem (4,494 posts)
39. Sure, but that's only because we're more mad at him for other things /nt
Response to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #39)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:50 PM
WeekiWater (3,259 posts)
46. If we get any more angry he is going to shoot right past Biden. NT
Response to Yosemito (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 03:38 PM
msongs (65,357 posts)
4. and that the top three do not include her lol nt
Response to msongs (Reply #4)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 04:06 PM
Retrograde (9,214 posts)
14. Yeah, I think that's part of her problem
Response to Yosemito (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 03:46 PM
Kurt V. (5,624 posts)
6. I'm worried about this as well.
the number of women that won in the midterms should count for something
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Response to Kurt V. (Reply #6)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 03:56 PM
Yosemito (648 posts)
10. Weren't our last three nominees are not white men?
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Response to Yosemito (Reply #10)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 04:03 PM
Kurt V. (5,624 posts)
12. that was then.
Response to Kurt V. (Reply #12)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 04:11 PM
Dennis Donovan (18,761 posts)
15. Concern is noted... n/t
Response to Dennis Donovan (Reply #15)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 04:40 PM
Kurt V. (5,624 posts)
21. thank you.
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 03:46 PM
Proud Liberal Dem (23,576 posts)
7. It's hard to say how this shakes out
but I hope that our party hasn't become risk-averse and/or bought into the media narrative about "economically anxious" white votes because of the right-wing backlash against the election of Barack Obama and the nomination of Hillary Clinton.
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 03:51 PM
borgesian (52 posts)
9. The Horror!!!! The Horror!!!!
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 03:58 PM
MrsCoffee (5,589 posts)
11. Oh goodie a whole new thread to trash Gillibrand.
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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #11)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 04:27 PM
wasupaloopa (4,516 posts)
18. If there is a OP about her there will be criticism of her. Freedom of speech includes the right to
trash our leaders.
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 04:05 PM
BannonsLiver (14,888 posts)
13. She's at 1 percent in most polls
Behind 3 women. She should be reflecting on why that is.
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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #13)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:25 PM
WeekiWater (3,259 posts)
31. The polls are based on name recognition. NT
Response to WeekiWater (Reply #31)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:36 PM
BannonsLiver (14,888 posts)
36. Not exactly a revelation there.
Regardless, she’s not in an enviable spot relative to others. I suspect even she would admit that.
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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #36)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:38 PM
WeekiWater (3,259 posts)
37. I imagine she would admit that. She is very bright and knows she has limited name recognition.
An overwhelming majority of candidates who will be running in our primary aren't in an enviable spot in these name recognition polls.
"She should be reflecting on why that is." Seems to be a bit of a revelation. |
Response to WeekiWater (Reply #37)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:44 PM
BannonsLiver (14,888 posts)
42. she had better get to work then
Response to Yosemito (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 04:17 PM
cynatnite (31,011 posts)
16. She's right, but it's still early.
Let's see how it shakes out come March.
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 04:18 PM
oberliner (58,724 posts)
17. Van Jones asked her the question
Response to oberliner (Reply #17)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:27 PM
Bucky (52,299 posts)
33. It's a good, if shallow, question. And she gave a decent answer.
The problem is that race, as a category, is an inherently shallow topic.
Race as a historical problem that all Americans grapple with is a deep rich problem. It's something she could have explored and it would have offered a lot of insight to her thinking. Maybe the fact that she didn't explore & verbally perambulate the way Bill Clinton or Obama would have to offer fresh paradigms for our thinking tells us something about Gillebrand. I like her as a senator and she has the most anti-Trump voting record in the senate. So she's not unsubstantial. But she's not a paradigm shifter either. |
Response to Bucky (Reply #33)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:43 PM
oberliner (58,724 posts)
40. Agreed
I just think it's important to point out that she isn't just going around making this statement on her own - it was said in response to a question she was asked.
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 04:31 PM
Vinca (49,173 posts)
19. If the voters elect a white man via the primaries, so be it.
There should be no prebaked standard for our candidates. Coronations don't work. Someone will catch fire and whether they are male or female or black or white or old or young will not matter. Ousting Republicans is what matters.
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 04:33 PM
Luciferous (5,753 posts)
20. After what she did to Franken she wouldn't
get my vote, and it has nothing to do with her gender!
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Response to Luciferous (Reply #20)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:16 PM
Bucky (52,299 posts)
25. If she gets the nomination she'll get your vote. Fight me.
Response to Bucky (Reply #25)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:44 PM
mn9driver (3,904 posts)
41. Everyone on this thread will vote for the eventual democratic nominee.
Otherwise, they don’t belong here. That being said, I won’t be supporting her for the nomination.
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Response to Bucky (Reply #25)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:44 PM
Luciferous (5,753 posts)
43. Ha, she won't get the nomination.
Response to Luciferous (Reply #43)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:47 PM
brooklynite (85,587 posts)
44. Of course, neither will 90% of the other candidates...
But whatever choices people make, I'd say only a handful will even remember the Franken issue, much less care about it.
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:14 PM
jalan48 (13,692 posts)
23. I hope we have a woman President too. Just not Ms Gillibrand.
Response to Yosemito (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:16 PM
Bucky (52,299 posts)
24. We could have Joe Biden get a Rachel Dolezol makeover. Then it's problem solved.
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:19 PM
AlexSFCA (6,086 posts)
28. in other worsds she is worried she may not win primary
and blame it on white men
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:24 PM
WeekiWater (3,259 posts)
29. As am I. Time to turn over the keys. NT
Response to Yosemito (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:26 PM
Funtatlaguy (10,432 posts)
32. Biden runs as one termer only with Kamala as Veep. Problem solved.
Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #32)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:30 PM
Bucky (52,299 posts)
35. Ugh. What about Kamala for president and Joe around as Veep just for the kicks.
I mean, at 56, It's not like she needs a chaperone. She'd be the oldest Democrat elected president since Harry Truman. Think about that.
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Response to Bucky (Reply #35)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 08:46 PM
Celerity (35,520 posts)
52. She'd be the oldest Democrat elected president since Harry Truman.
Wow, I never even thought of it like that!
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:50 PM
shanny (6,709 posts)
47. her concern is noted
Response to Yosemito (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 06:28 PM
OrlandoDem2 (1,956 posts)
48. So? That's who the VOTERS like at this point.
In 2016 voters on the Left ultimately decided for a white woman. And in 2008 and 2012 we decided on an African-American man. We are indeed a diverse party. And the voters may change their mind by 2020. Big freakin deal! Get behind whoever the Democratic voters decide!
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Response to Yosemito (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 07:59 PM
Raine (29,474 posts)
49. and she isn't one of those four
that's her gripe..
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Response to Raine (Reply #49)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 08:25 PM
MariePinchon (86 posts)
50. That is not what I took from this interview, at all.
I watched the interview and Gillibrand clearly states that all of our potential nominees are by far better than Trump and will have her full support.
But when questioned by Van Jones about the current lack of enthusiasm for our current potential female candidates, she answered quite honestly that it was a concern. Of course it's a concern. What do Biden, Bernie and Beto offer that Kamala, Elizabeth and even Kirsten do not? I know the answer, and millions of Democratic women do too. |
Response to Yosemito (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 08:30 PM
JHan (10,173 posts)
51. Everyone else involved in the decision to "oust" Franken, is likely grateful Kirsten gets the hate.
The hate is one of the most eye-rolling things in current politics, and that's saying something.
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