HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » General Discussion (Forum) » Kirsten Gillibrand worrie...

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 03:26 PM

 

Kirsten Gillibrand worried that top three Democrats are white men

Because we are a diverse nation, senator Kirsten Gillibrand is worried that the top three contenders for the Democratic nomination according to polls are white men.
When van Jones asked her whether she was nervous about it, she answered yes at the 20 second mark of this clip:

?s=21



52 replies, 1600 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 52 replies Author Time Post
Reply Kirsten Gillibrand worried that top three Democrats are white men (Original post)
Yosemito Dec 2018 OP
Chipper Chat Dec 2018 #1
MyOwnPeace Dec 2018 #2
brooklynite Dec 2018 #26
Gothmog Dec 2018 #3
Power 2 the People Dec 2018 #5
jrthin Dec 2018 #8
Funtatlaguy Dec 2018 #30
brooklynite Dec 2018 #27
WeekiWater Dec 2018 #34
mn9driver Dec 2018 #38
WeekiWater Dec 2018 #45
LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #39
WeekiWater Dec 2018 #46
msongs Dec 2018 #4
Retrograde Dec 2018 #14
Kurt V. Dec 2018 #6
Yosemito Dec 2018 #10
Kurt V. Dec 2018 #12
Dennis Donovan Dec 2018 #15
Kurt V. Dec 2018 #21
Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2018 #7
borgesian Dec 2018 #9
MrsCoffee Dec 2018 #11
wasupaloopa Dec 2018 #18
BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #13
Doremus Dec 2018 #22
WeekiWater Dec 2018 #31
BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #36
WeekiWater Dec 2018 #37
BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #42
cynatnite Dec 2018 #16
oberliner Dec 2018 #17
Bucky Dec 2018 #33
oberliner Dec 2018 #40
Vinca Dec 2018 #19
Luciferous Dec 2018 #20
Bucky Dec 2018 #25
mn9driver Dec 2018 #41
Luciferous Dec 2018 #43
brooklynite Dec 2018 #44
jalan48 Dec 2018 #23
Bucky Dec 2018 #24
AlexSFCA Dec 2018 #28
WeekiWater Dec 2018 #29
Funtatlaguy Dec 2018 #32
Bucky Dec 2018 #35
Celerity Dec 2018 #52
shanny Dec 2018 #47
OrlandoDem2 Dec 2018 #48
Raine Dec 2018 #49
MariePinchon Dec 2018 #50
JHan Dec 2018 #51

Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 03:29 PM

1. It might have been the TOP FOUR white men

If it wasnt for her (if you get my drift)

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Chipper Chat (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 03:34 PM

2. Yep..........

wonder what she is working on for the other three?

(Oh, but it won't be "just her" - it will be many others, it's just her name we hear the most.........)

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MyOwnPeace (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:17 PM

26. Unsupported conspiracy theory

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Chipper Chat (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 03:35 PM

3. Gillibrand has burned some bridges with her attacks on Al Franken

Gillibrand has been told by the major fundraisers that she will have a difficult time raising funds to run in 2020

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Gothmog (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 03:40 PM

5. +1

Franken should move back to NY and run for her seat. What she did to him was unconscionable.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Power 2 the People (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 03:51 PM

8. Brilliant idea. I would vote for him in a heartbeat over her. nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Power 2 the People (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:24 PM

30. I really love that idea. He'd win.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Chipper Chat (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:19 PM

27. I guess it has been at least a week since the last "I hate Gillibrand" thread...

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Chipper Chat (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:28 PM

34. Isn't this person in the top two?

 


?lang=en

Doesn't seem to impact him all that much.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to WeekiWater (Reply #34)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:40 PM

38. Sanders isn't a democrat.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to mn9driver (Reply #38)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:49 PM

45. Seems to be polling well in advance of our primary. NT

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to WeekiWater (Reply #34)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:42 PM

39. Sure, but that's only because we're more mad at him for other things /nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #39)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:50 PM

46. If we get any more angry he is going to shoot right past Biden. NT

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 03:38 PM

4. and that the top three do not include her lol nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to msongs (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 04:06 PM

14. Yeah, I think that's part of her problem

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 03:46 PM

6. I'm worried about this as well.

the number of women that won in the midterms should count for something

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Kurt V. (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 03:56 PM

10. Weren't our last three nominees are not white men?

 

?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Yosemito (Reply #10)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 04:03 PM

12. that was then.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Kurt V. (Reply #12)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 04:11 PM

15. Concern is noted... n/t

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Dennis Donovan (Reply #15)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 04:40 PM

21. thank you.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 03:46 PM

7. It's hard to say how this shakes out

but I hope that our party hasn't become risk-averse and/or bought into the media narrative about "economically anxious" white votes because of the right-wing backlash against the election of Barack Obama and the nomination of Hillary Clinton.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 03:51 PM

9. The Horror!!!! The Horror!!!!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 03:58 PM

11. Oh goodie a whole new thread to trash Gillibrand.


Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #11)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 04:27 PM

18. If there is a OP about her there will be criticism of her. Freedom of speech includes the right to

 

trash our leaders.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 04:05 PM

13. She's at 1 percent in most polls

Behind 3 women. She should be reflecting on why that is.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #13)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 04:55 PM

22. Agree. nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #13)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:25 PM

31. The polls are based on name recognition. NT

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to WeekiWater (Reply #31)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:36 PM

36. Not exactly a revelation there.

Regardless, she’s not in an enviable spot relative to others. I suspect even she would admit that.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #36)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:38 PM

37. I imagine she would admit that. She is very bright and knows she has limited name recognition.

 

An overwhelming majority of candidates who will be running in our primary aren't in an enviable spot in these name recognition polls.

"She should be reflecting on why that is."

Seems to be a bit of a revelation.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to WeekiWater (Reply #37)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:44 PM

42. she had better get to work then

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 04:17 PM

16. She's right, but it's still early.

Let's see how it shakes out come March.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 04:18 PM

17. Van Jones asked her the question

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to oberliner (Reply #17)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:27 PM

33. It's a good, if shallow, question. And she gave a decent answer.

The problem is that race, as a category, is an inherently shallow topic.

Race as a historical problem that all Americans grapple with is a deep rich problem. It's something she could have explored and it would have offered a lot of insight to her thinking. Maybe the fact that she didn't explore & verbally perambulate the way Bill Clinton or Obama would have to offer fresh paradigms for our thinking tells us something about Gillebrand. I like her as a senator and she has the most anti-Trump voting record in the senate. So she's not unsubstantial. But she's not a paradigm shifter either.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Bucky (Reply #33)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:43 PM

40. Agreed

 

I just think it's important to point out that she isn't just going around making this statement on her own - it was said in response to a question she was asked.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 04:31 PM

19. If the voters elect a white man via the primaries, so be it.

There should be no prebaked standard for our candidates. Coronations don't work. Someone will catch fire and whether they are male or female or black or white or old or young will not matter. Ousting Republicans is what matters.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 04:33 PM

20. After what she did to Franken she wouldn't

get my vote, and it has nothing to do with her gender!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Luciferous (Reply #20)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:16 PM

25. If she gets the nomination she'll get your vote. Fight me.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Bucky (Reply #25)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:44 PM

41. Everyone on this thread will vote for the eventual democratic nominee.

Otherwise, they don’t belong here. That being said, I won’t be supporting her for the nomination.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Bucky (Reply #25)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:44 PM

43. Ha, she won't get the nomination.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Luciferous (Reply #43)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:47 PM

44. Of course, neither will 90% of the other candidates...

But whatever choices people make, I'd say only a handful will even remember the Franken issue, much less care about it.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:14 PM

23. I hope we have a woman President too. Just not Ms Gillibrand.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:16 PM

24. We could have Joe Biden get a Rachel Dolezol makeover. Then it's problem solved.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:19 PM

28. in other worsds she is worried she may not win primary

and blame it on white men

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:24 PM

29. As am I. Time to turn over the keys. NT

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:26 PM

32. Biden runs as one termer only with Kamala as Veep. Problem solved.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #32)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:30 PM

35. Ugh. What about Kamala for president and Joe around as Veep just for the kicks.

I mean, at 56, It's not like she needs a chaperone. She'd be the oldest Democrat elected president since Harry Truman. Think about that.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Bucky (Reply #35)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 08:46 PM

52. She'd be the oldest Democrat elected president since Harry Truman.

Wow, I never even thought of it like that!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:50 PM

47. her concern is noted

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 06:28 PM

48. So? That's who the VOTERS like at this point.

In 2016 voters on the Left ultimately decided for a white woman. And in 2008 and 2012 we decided on an African-American man. We are indeed a diverse party. And the voters may change their mind by 2020. Big freakin deal! Get behind whoever the Democratic voters decide!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 07:59 PM

49. and she isn't one of those four

that's her gripe..

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Raine (Reply #49)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 08:25 PM

50. That is not what I took from this interview, at all.

 

I watched the interview and Gillibrand clearly states that all of our potential nominees are by far better than Trump and will have her full support.

But when questioned by Van Jones about the current lack of enthusiasm for our current potential female candidates, she answered quite honestly that it was a concern.

Of course it's a concern. What do Biden, Bernie and Beto offer that Kamala, Elizabeth and even Kirsten do not? I know the answer, and millions of Democratic women do too.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 08:30 PM

51. Everyone else involved in the decision to "oust" Franken, is likely grateful Kirsten gets the hate.

The hate is one of the most eye-rolling things in current politics, and that's saying something.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread