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Senator Amy Klobachar and Senator Kamala Harris. (Original Post) MariePinchon Dec 2018 OP
I have a lot of respect for Joe Biden. madaboutharry Dec 2018 #1
Joe Biden is a Democratic Party gem, MariePinchon Dec 2018 #5
I too have a lot of respect and even love for Joe Biden but I think the mantle must be passed TeamPooka Dec 2018 #12
I like Klobuchar. She is probably my top pick right now Quixote1818 Dec 2018 #2
Bernie is not a Democrat. Can we PLEASE ignore him? Stinky The Clown Dec 2018 #3
he is counted because he will be running as a democrat AlexSFCA Dec 2018 #28
it will be easier than you think MFM008 Dec 2018 #32
Klobuchar cilla4progress Dec 2018 #4
I like Amy Klobuchar a lot also. k8conant Dec 2018 #23
it is one thing to praise these two DonCoquixote Dec 2018 #6
Who did I slam? MariePinchon Dec 2018 #7
one person;s salm is anothers truth DonCoquixote Dec 2018 #8
That's ridiculous. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #9
I can buy harris DonCoquixote Dec 2018 #33
Did you mean "heads and shoulders above"??? k8conant Dec 2018 #10
No. It was not an unintentional pun. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #15
"Head and tails above" is a malapropism k8conant Dec 2018 #18
Nope. You are reading far too much into it. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #22
you seriously can't tell what words you used that are insulting? You're not helping those women's TeamPooka Dec 2018 #13
What exactly was insulting? MariePinchon Dec 2018 #16
your truth is not my truth. trueblue2007 Dec 2018 #31
Thank you. H2O Man Dec 2018 #11
especially by people who joined DU today. TeamPooka Dec 2018 #14
And additionally when they can't correctly spell... GReedDiamond Dec 2018 #19
lol. This board is read by a lot of people. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #20
"sarcarsm" ?? k8conant Dec 2018 #21
It's a typo and mispelling of the word sarcasm. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #24
and ignorance is bliss. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #17
I'll take your word on that. H2O Man Dec 2018 #25
Happy? No! MariePinchon Dec 2018 #27
Thanks elleng Dec 2018 #26
the primaries are going to be crowded AlexSFCA Dec 2018 #29
heads and tails above ??? i hardly think so. trueblue2007 Dec 2018 #30
Stir it, baby!!! Iggo Dec 2018 #34
Frankly if I get the choice between good solid Democatic woman and a good solid Democratic white ... marble falls Dec 2018 #35
I would absolutely vote for Nancy Pelosi. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #36
I don't see any heads exploding. We've had two years of a cheetolini Presidency and no one's ... marble falls Dec 2018 #37
Yes, I understand. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #39
Pundits gotta pund. We need to not be distracted at whats at stake. One way or another cheetolini .. marble falls Dec 2018 #45
Don't agree that both are Renew Deal Dec 2018 #38
Beto will definately do well, if he should run. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #41
Which ones? Renew Deal Dec 2018 #43
There was a story posted here minutes ago, MariePinchon Dec 2018 #46
Is that you Ivan? n/t retread Dec 2018 #40
I see the circular firing squad is locked and loaded... Aristus Dec 2018 #42
Both fine women. Adrahil Dec 2018 #44
I hope someone's making a list and checking it twice. bullwinkle428 Dec 2018 #47

madaboutharry

(42,031 posts)
1. I have a lot of respect for Joe Biden.
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 10:47 PM
Dec 2018

But I agree that both Amy Klobacher and Kamala Harris are brilliant women and each have the talent and skills to make a great president.

 

MariePinchon

(86 posts)
5. Joe Biden is a Democratic Party gem,
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 11:07 PM
Dec 2018

I respect him too, but I'm not sure he is the fit for 2020. And yes, Klobachar and Harris are awesome women and political leaders and it will be a mistake to underestimate their potential for winning the nomination.

 

TeamPooka

(25,577 posts)
12. I too have a lot of respect and even love for Joe Biden but I think the mantle must be passed
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 11:44 PM
Dec 2018

to a new generation (and maybe gender)

Stinky The Clown

(68,937 posts)
3. Bernie is not a Democrat. Can we PLEASE ignore him?
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 10:55 PM
Dec 2018

Sorry, that was a global thing, not aimed at you. I know he is counted in Democratic polls, but why? He is a sour spoiler and one of only two candidates who chose not to release his tax returns. Count me suspicious of him.

To your point about Harris and Klobuchar, I like them both, for very different reasons.

MFM008

(20,042 posts)
32. it will be easier than you think
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 02:39 AM
Dec 2018

We need full time democrats.
I will vote for whoever is our nominee, but
we do best with young dynamic candidates
see Kennedy, Clinton, Obama.
and a woman on the ticket.

DonCoquixote

(13,949 posts)
6. it is one thing to praise these two
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 11:10 PM
Dec 2018

but do you have to slam other people as well? Look, we have a lot of good people who can run 2020, but let's save the war for the primary, and then end the war right after the primary so we can focus on purging America of the GOP.

 

MariePinchon

(86 posts)
7. Who did I slam?
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 11:13 PM
Dec 2018

I stated that these women were heads and tails above Bernie, Beto and Biden. That is not a slam. That is the truth.

DonCoquixote

(13,949 posts)
8. one person;s salm is anothers truth
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 11:15 PM
Dec 2018

still, you coudl ahve said why you love the women without aiming at beto. again, let us wait till the 2020 primary before we say "my person is great and your person stinks"

 

MariePinchon

(86 posts)
9. That's ridiculous.
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 11:22 PM
Dec 2018

I have a lot of respect for Beto. His speech on why NFL players like Kaepernick kneel, was golden. But he is not in the same league as Klobachar or Harris. That is not a slam. It's the truth. I never said Beto "stinks". Nor would I ever say such a thing. But he is not in the same league as Harris or Klobachar. That is a fact. Not a slam.

DonCoquixote

(13,949 posts)
33. I can buy harris
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 12:01 PM
Dec 2018

however, there are many ladies I would put above Klobachar. As much as I would love to belive this country could elect a Maxine Waters, I am realistic, but I can damn well see a Sibelius, Napoletano, Mazie Hirano, Tulsi gabbard or yes, even though she still has damage from the Franken mess, a Gillibrand.

All of these could easily stand above Amy, because they already have national attention and battle scars.

 

MariePinchon

(86 posts)
22. Nope. You are reading far too much into it.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 12:33 AM
Dec 2018

And by doing so you are avoiding my point that Amy Klobachar and Kamala Harris are far more preferred candidates over Beto, Bidon and Bernie.

But I suppose that was your point.

 

TeamPooka

(25,577 posts)
13. you seriously can't tell what words you used that are insulting? You're not helping those women's
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 11:52 PM
Dec 2018

cause with your "truth."
and by the way you have made zero case for the candidates you support, just insults of others.

You made a prediction, with no reasons for it given, and insulted long-time Democrats with much support across the base.
Then when challenged you just repeated your insults with no supporting facts or debate.

You are agitating, person who just joined DU yesterday.

Your motives should be questioned by everyone on this board right now.
MIRT should know this too.



GReedDiamond

(5,527 posts)
19. And additionally when they can't correctly spell...
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 12:28 AM
Dec 2018

...the name of the person they are promoting.

Edited for even more clarity.

 

MariePinchon

(86 posts)
20. lol. This board is read by a lot of people.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 12:29 AM
Dec 2018

Some choose to join, some don't.

Hint: There's a good reason why many don't.

But you go right ahead in being the board monitor who discourages newcomers. That is such a winning idea. *sarcarsm*

 

MariePinchon

(86 posts)
24. It's a typo and mispelling of the word sarcasm.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 12:39 AM
Dec 2018

It shouldn't be that difficult to figure out.

But if that is the hill you want to die on, that's your thing.

 

MariePinchon

(86 posts)
27. Happy? No!
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 01:28 AM
Dec 2018

I am more furious than I have ever been in my life. I'm also more motivated than I've ever been in my life. That is what is driving me to enthusiastically devote my time to our wonderful, accomplished, experienced female Democratic candidates.

AlexSFCA

(6,319 posts)
29. the primaries are going to be crowded
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 02:06 AM
Dec 2018

I hope the winner would choose the second popular candidate as a running mate. Hillary would have had better chance if she chose Bernie as VP.

marble falls

(71,399 posts)
35. Frankly if I get the choice between good solid Democatic woman and a good solid Democratic white ...
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 11:50 AM
Dec 2018

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male candidate, I'm voting for the woman. People who look like me are already overly represented.

The fact is that all six candidates are capable of being President. Klobachar and Harris deserve the more serious look not because they're women but because they have the same capability to lead as do the B's - then comes they're being women.

We have the best and deepest bench I've ever seen for an election. The truth is I will vote for Klobochar or Harris before I'd vote for the three B's. And no matter which one gets through to convention - I will have absolutely no problem voting for anyone of them against cheetolini. If he's even there in 2020.

What would you think of nominating Pelosi after she's been made President after the resignations of cheetolini and Mike Pence? I'd vote Pelosi - certainly has the experience.

 

MariePinchon

(86 posts)
36. I would absolutely vote for Nancy Pelosi.
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 01:01 PM
Dec 2018

Yet can you imagine how many heads would explode if she became President? It would be quite the scene.

marble falls

(71,399 posts)
37. I don't see any heads exploding. We've had two years of a cheetolini Presidency and no one's ...
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 03:31 PM
Dec 2018

head's REALLY exploded.

And that;s the problem. Do we really need to be derailed this early in the campaign season by trying to create division?

 

MariePinchon

(86 posts)
39. Yes, I understand.
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 03:34 PM
Dec 2018

It's just that the image of Republican pundits reacting to it immediately came to my mind.

No, I am not looking to cause or create division.

marble falls

(71,399 posts)
45. Pundits gotta pund. We need to not be distracted at whats at stake. One way or another cheetolini ..
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 03:40 PM
Dec 2018

is temporary, we need every other office anywhere in the US Democratic, too. We need to be adding voters, not peeling them away.

Renew Deal

(84,765 posts)
38. Don't agree that both are
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 03:33 PM
Dec 2018

I think it's Klobachar and Beto, then everyone else. In terms of likelihood to win, Harris is last in this group.

 

MariePinchon

(86 posts)
41. Beto will definately do well, if he should run.
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 03:36 PM
Dec 2018

But Harris seems to be catching on with many Democratic groups recently.

 

MariePinchon

(86 posts)
46. There was a story posted here minutes ago,
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 03:41 PM
Dec 2018

about Harris having the backing of Indian Americans. There was also a straw poll from She The People yesterday.

She's behind in the polling, but the polling data suggests many people still don't know about her. Her numbers will go up, once people get to know her.

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