Wed Dec 19, 2018, 12:44 AM

Yosemito (648 posts)

Nate Silver: Tucker Carlson is racist but advertisers shouldn't decide who's racist

In a bizarre tweetbait, the white mathematician says that he thinks Tucker Carlson is racist, but advertisers who have dropped him for being racist shouldn't think he's racist.

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Nate Silver: Tucker Carlson is racist but advertisers shouldn't decide who's racist (Original post)	Yosemito	Dec 2018	OP
Advertisers have as much right to decide who's racist	whathehell	Dec 2018	#1
I'm With Norm	Dan22X	Dec 2018	#10
Yep, me too. n/t.	whathehell	Dec 2018	#13
And I get to decide what program or product involved I want to use over that knowledge. You ...	marble falls	Dec 2018	#14
Sorry Nate.. you're wrong. They're humans	Cha	Dec 2018	#2
WTF Nate ... It's Applebee's Ad money ... they're not shutting down Tucker's show ...	mr_lebowski	Dec 2018	#3
Advertisers have every right to decide where to spend their money ...	CatMor	Dec 2018	#4
Applebees doesn't decide ANYthing for us all. nt	greyl	Dec 2018	#5
Dumb take	romana	Dec 2018	#6
What's Silver's argument here... that advertisers get forced to give ad dollars to racists?	Bucky	Dec 2018	#7
Scary indeed n/t	malaise	Dec 2018	#15
Tweet bait straight out the tweeters ahole	realmirage	Dec 2018	#8
He says racist things on his show.	pamela	Dec 2018	#9
I guess Nate didn't get the memo that corporations are people, too.	Kind of Blue	Dec 2018	#11
K&R, "or at least that he convincingly plays a racist on TV." sounds privileged as hell !! I can't	uponit7771	Dec 2018	#12
Advertisers are making decisions based on the bottom line Nate	Quixote1818	Dec 2018	#16
Nate really got it wrong.	LiberalFighter	Dec 2018	#17
Tucker has the right to Free speech	edhopper	Dec 2018	#18
Stick to spreadsheets Nate.	phleshdef	Dec 2018	#19
Generous reading: Only Court's ultimately define discrimination and hate speech. Not quite true.	Shaddox	Dec 2018	#20

Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 12:53 AM

whathehell (27,885 posts)

1. Advertisers have as much right to decide who's racist

as wnyone else... Norman Ornstein is right.

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Response to whathehell (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 03:26 AM

Dan22X (2 posts)

10. I'm With Norm

Advertisers should decide where their money goes.

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Response to Dan22X (Reply #10)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 03:55 AM

whathehell (27,885 posts)

13. Yep, me too. n/t.

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Response to Dan22X (Reply #10)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 05:52 PM

marble falls (47,684 posts)

14. And I get to decide what program or product involved I want to use over that knowledge. You ...

have the right of free speech and I have the right to not listen to it.

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 12:58 AM

Cha (283,912 posts)

2. Sorry Nate.. you're wrong. They're humans

in the PR dept of Applebees and anywhere else who can tell a "racist" when they hear one.

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 12:59 AM

mr_lebowski (31,061 posts)

3. WTF Nate ... It's Applebee's Ad money ... they're not shutting down Tucker's show ...

They're just not advertising on it. Which is THEIR RIGHT.

Not to mention boycotts are part and parcel of DEMOCRACIES.

Very fucking disappointing to read.

I hope he retracts this bullshit.

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 12:59 AM

CatMor (6,212 posts)

4. Advertisers have every right to decide where to spend their money ...

Nate Silver is not making sense with that opinion. Racism is evil and should not be rewarded.

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 01:00 AM

greyl (22,989 posts)

5. Applebees doesn't decide ANYthing for us all. nt

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 01:01 AM

romana (765 posts)

6. Dumb take

This is a really dumb look on Silver. Why shouldn’t advertisers drop someone they think is racist and say so?

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 01:03 AM

Bucky (52,324 posts)

7. What's Silver's argument here... that advertisers get forced to give ad dollars to racists?

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Response to Bucky (Reply #7)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 09:25 PM

malaise (254,525 posts)

15. Scary indeed n/t

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 01:08 AM

realmirage (2,117 posts)

8. Tweet bait straight out the tweeters ahole

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 01:45 AM

pamela (3,467 posts)

9. He says racist things on his show.

No self-respecting company wants their commercials to follow a racist tirade. They're not boycotting him, they're pulling their advertisement from a show whose content does not reflect their values.

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 03:30 AM

Kind of Blue (8,709 posts)

11. I guess Nate didn't get the memo that corporations are people, too.

So it's a good thing when these people - I'm betting pressure from customers - call out racists.

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 03:41 AM

uponit7771 (88,616 posts)

12. K&R, "or at least that he convincingly plays a racist on TV." sounds privileged as hell !! I can't

... afford to figure out whether someones a real racist or a fake one ... whether they're a diet racist or a full on ribeye steak with baked potato racist

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 09:27 PM

Quixote1818 (27,674 posts)

16. Advertisers are making decisions based on the bottom line Nate

Sponsoring a racist pig isn't usually great for business.

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 09:30 PM

LiberalFighter (45,578 posts)

17. Nate really got it wrong.

And plenty of people are telling him on Twitter.

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 09:32 PM

edhopper (30,691 posts)

18. Tucker has the right to Free speech

not the right to a TV show.

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 09:36 PM

phleshdef (11,936 posts)

19. Stick to spreadsheets Nate.

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Response to Yosemito (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 09:37 PM

Shaddox (384 posts)

20. Generous reading: Only Court's ultimately define discrimination and hate speech. Not quite true.

Public consensus moves the needle, both politically and socially. And ultimately THAT needle figures in Court definitions. So, Nate is, at best, misguided.

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