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highplainsdem

(62,227 posts) Thu Dec 20, 2018, 08:46 PM Dec 2018

Richard Engel told by mil officials: wheels off the track, too many sr officers self-interested

Engel tweeted this a few minutes ago:

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US mil officials im talking to are seriously worried after mattis, and by the way things are going. They feel the wheels are off the track, and that too many selfinterested sr mil officers are unwilling to make a stand.

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Richard Engel told by mil officials: wheels off the track, too many sr officers self-interested (Original Post) highplainsdem Dec 2018 OP

This. Crutchez_CuiBono Dec 2018 #1

Isn't it their duty to the Country to make a stand? PhrankT Dec 2018 #2

Well that's just great. Zoonart Dec 2018 #3

So they would let Putin take over to protect their pension? dem4decades Dec 2018 #4

Not their pensions - their promotions. Engel's apparently hearing there are senior officers highplainsdem Dec 2018 #6

Great. A strongman with the military loyal to him not ther Constitution. dem4decades Dec 2018 #12

"Richard Nixon" chimes in... regnaD kciN Dec 2018 #5

I worry about the active duty lower service members, Corgigal Dec 2018 #7

There Seems to be a Critical Shortage of Backbones These Days dlk Dec 2018 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author dlk Dec 2018 #9

In 50s-60s some engineering students said whoever ran the world they would always have a job!! bobbieinok Dec 2018 #10

Ah, this is what happened to the German army uponit7771 Dec 2018 #11

My thoughts exactly. Whats next, the rank of Field Marshall? Or perhaps a purge of the generals? winstars Dec 2018 #13

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)

1. This.

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2018, 08:49 PM

Dec 2018

PhrankT

(113 posts)

2. Isn't it their duty to the Country to make a stand?

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2018, 08:49 PM

Dec 2018

No one is steering this ship?

Zoonart

(14,477 posts)

3. Well that's just great.

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2018, 08:50 PM

Dec 2018

Profiles in courage abound. No patriots? None?

dem4decades

(14,069 posts)

4. So they would let Putin take over to protect their pension?

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2018, 08:51 PM

Dec 2018

I'm missing something here.

highplainsdem

(62,227 posts)

6. Not their pensions - their promotions. Engel's apparently hearing there are senior officers

Reply to dem4decades (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 20, 2018, 08:56 PM

Dec 2018

who don't have Mattis's conscience and integrity, and who will see this time as an opportunity to further their careers if other officers aren't willing to go along with Trump's insane whims, authoritarian tendencies, and treasonous statements and actions.

dem4decades

(14,069 posts)

12. Great. A strongman with the military loyal to him not ther Constitution.

Reply to highplainsdem (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 20, 2018, 10:20 PM

Dec 2018

regnaD kciN

(27,646 posts)

5. "Richard Nixon" chimes in...

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2018, 08:55 PM

Dec 2018

https://mobile.twitter.com/dick_nixon/status/822965409557204992

Corgigal

(9,298 posts)

7. I worry about the active duty lower service members,

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2018, 08:57 PM

Dec 2018

the officer ranks are always padding their resume for their civilian follow up position.

Maybe, the lower officer ranks might care about those young people but I'm happy my kids got out of the service in time.

dlk

(13,254 posts)

8. There Seems to be a Critical Shortage of Backbones These Days

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Thu Dec 20, 2018, 09:35 PM

Dec 2018

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dlk This message was self-deleted by its author.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)

10. In 50s-60s some engineering students said whoever ran the world they would always have a job!!

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2018, 09:50 PM

Dec 2018

I heard this as an undergrad and as a grad student (2 different universities).

In fact, this was a reason they were studying engineering.

When I was in jr high and high school in the 50s, we were constantly being told that there was a major shortage of engineers in the US. So everyone (no girls need apply, of course!) should consider engineering as a possibility.

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)

11. Ah, this is what happened to the German army

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Thu Dec 20, 2018, 09:53 PM

Dec 2018

winstars

(4,279 posts)

13. My thoughts exactly. Whats next, the rank of Field Marshall? Or perhaps a purge of the generals?