So, are we all confident Senate Dems will hold firm tomorrow?

[regnaD kciN]

I wish I was. I could just see a few “moderates,” scared of taking the blame for something as “unthinkable” as a shutdown, breaking ranks to vote for cloture. Sure, they’d then vote against the actual measure, but it would pass on Republican votes alone. Trump gets his Wall (and even more adoration from his base), and Democrats get to complain about it for the next two years.

I’m really, really hoping Schumer is willing and able to hold a solid party line on this one.


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[onecaliberal]

1. It needs 60 votes to pass.

[regnaD kciN]

3. It needs 60 votes to gain cloture (end debate)...

Once that happens, the bill itself only needs 50 + Pence to pass.

[onecaliberal]

4. It has to pass a 60 vote hurdle to get a vote. It's been reported many R senators have already left

For the holiday.

[regnaD kciN]

8. But that "hurdle" is one way to finesse the issue...

Join the Republicans to shut off debate, then vote against the resulting bill itself. That way, it passes, and “moderates” can still claim “I opposed the border wall,” even though they were crucial in helping enable it.

[MontanaMama]

2. I have questioned Schumer's spine in the past

but I think he is righteously pissed off and he and Pelosi will stand their ground.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

5. Nuclear option

McTurtle will end the filibuster as an option.

[EffieBlack]

6. That can't happen tomorrow

And McConnell isn't going to blow up Senate rules over a border wall.

[Hassler]

7. Maybe they lose Manchin. All the other moderates lost, so they have zero interest in

Bailing out Trump or McConartist.