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Bucky

(53,928 posts)
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 01:20 PM Dec 2018

1930s "repatriation" of Mexicans was Hoover's response to Depression

I put repatriation in quotes because about 60% of those exiled from the US were citizens of the United States.

I was googling around about Hoover's response to the Great Depression because I was thinking Steve Mnuchin's calling up bankers sounded exactly like what Hoover tried after the stock market crash. And that's how I came across this under reported episode in US history, which today meet the definition of ethnic cleansing.

For God knows what reason, Hoover got it in his Quaker head (which makes him just about the least Quakerish Quaker I've ever met) that the presence of Mexican Americans in the country was a contributor to the depression. As an economics teacher, I can tell you that the depression was caused in part by a lack of consumer power and that young growing families are always a major input into consumer spending. So Hoover, the "sound businessman" was utterly off his nut thinking deporting a million Americans what's going to improve the job market.

Of course the part that saddens me most is the fact that the policy continued under FDR. No wait, the saddest part was of course the fact that hundreds of thousands of Americans were racially profiled and thrown out of their own country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Repatriation

The more things change the more they stay the same, folks.

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Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
1. Thanks for the post.
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 01:35 PM
Dec 2018

Was thinking of that Historical moment in time a few minutes ago. That and the sell off that happened in December of 1929 .
When is comes to Historical events,our GOP has set up the Hoover Crash this past year with their Massive Tax Cuts and the fake repatriation of US Corporate Funds parked off shore. Which btw, only about 50% ever came back on shore.

Bucky

(53,928 posts)
4. That's how they bleed us. And we only used a carrot, not a carrot+stick combo
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 02:49 PM
Dec 2018

What were corporate taxes like when we had real growth in this economy? Under JFK it was like 50%, I think. If they want a 35% corporate tax rate, let them earn the extra write-offs by creating real, good paying, middle-class jobs.

Just throwing tax cuts at businesses works about as well as throwing peanuts at zoo elephants and hoping they'll do a trick for us. Some beasts you've just got to train to get them to act right

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. This is just the start.
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 02:54 PM
Dec 2018

Going to put this out there. Watch for Layoffs to happen in large scale starting next week. Secondly,something I noticed this past couple of days. Retail inventories are totally out of control. Watch for Retailers to start yelling an posting ugly numbers in the next two weeks.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
3. Well, there was the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1888 when the Chinese were no longer needed...
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 01:55 PM
Dec 2018

to build the railroads and were seen as diluting the labor market.

BTW, Nixon was a Quaker, although Friends these days try to ignore that little tidbit.

DFW

(54,265 posts)
6. I went to an ostensibly Quaker school for a couple of years in the 1960s
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 02:58 PM
Dec 2018

They were all gung-ho for the Vietnam War, and sent Gestapo-like teachers and administrators through the halls telling boys that their hair was too long, and that they should get it cut.

I couldn't wait to get out of there (little realizing I was leaving the frying pan for the fire with a short reprieve, but that's another story). I hear the place has in the meantime done a 180°, now with community outreach and environmental projects galore (even Obama sent his daughters there). But when I was there, those so-called "Quakers" was about as peace-minded as Attila the Hun.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,230 posts)
7. the only thing we have to fear is racist fascists
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 04:10 PM
Dec 2018

Government of, by, and for corporations is not the American dream.

Hekate

(90,503 posts)
10. Thanks. That was the first thing I thought of when I read the title...
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 12:42 AM
Dec 2018

Goodbye to my Juan, Goodbye Rosalita...
All they will call you will be -- deportees

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
9. Worse than Nixon?
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 09:11 PM
Dec 2018

"Hoover got it in his Quaker head (which makes him just about the least Quakerish Quaker I've ever met)"

https://www.friendsjournal.org/nixons-first-cover-up-the-religious-life-of-a-quaker-president/

"$50/hardcover or eBook.
Buy on FJ Amazon Store

In the wake of the Watergate scandal and the resignation in disgrace of President Richard Milhous Nixon, many Friends have sought to distance Quakerism from his reputation. H. Larry Ingle’s friend Chuck Fager, a journalist who has no fear of delving into Quaker embarrassments, leaned on him to explore this particularly sad chapter in the history of our faith tradition. The result is Nixon’s First Cover‐Up, and Fager is one of the people to whom Ingle dedicates this book. Without this impetus, one wonders whether a study on this subject would ever have been written by anyone. We can be glad that it was, as it is instructive in multiple ways about the Quaker image and role in the public arena"

Ms. Toad

(33,977 posts)
11. When Quaker meets President,
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 01:45 AM
Dec 2018

somehow Quaker always loses.

Nixon had essentially no meaningful ties to Quakers (and those he had were to the branch farthest removed from traditional Quaker practices and values).

Bucky

(53,928 posts)
12. I don't think these levels of badness are quantifiable
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 02:14 PM
Dec 2018

I mean, which is worse, Nixon's impeachable offenses of engineering the weakest possible Democratic nominee to run against, Anne's essentially stealing the 1972 election, or the non impeachable offense of bombing civilian targets in Cambodia?

Who's worse than whom is often a futile academic exercise

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