Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Gothmog

(144,945 posts)
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 11:24 PM Dec 2018

Top 5 Weirdest Things in Carter Page's Latest Filing in Lawsuit Against DNC

Carter Page filed a lawsuit against the DNC, Marc Elias and the DNC's law firm back in October. Here is a link to the original petition filed in that case https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2179974

The DNC has moved to dismiss and Carter Page file a reply brief that is hilarious. Evidently Carter Page could not find a lawyer and wrote this brief himself. There is a maxim that a person who represents himself has a fool for a client. Here is a fun article with the five top dumb things in Carter Page's brief https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/top-5-weirdest-things-in-carter-pages-latest-filing-in-lawsuit-against-dnc/

The filing contains some cautionary tales for pro se litigants.

Carter Page has submitted this filing all by his lonesome–or, at least, without help from a named attorney. This is generally advised against in high-profile cases, especially those in federal court. While Page makes clear that he is currently studying the law, his inexperience shines through in ways large and small. References to legal standards are occasionally clumsy, rendered fancifully and off-base–or, as noted above, simply missing altogether–and Page repeats the same typo some 80-plus times.
There’s also several instances of languages atypical of federal court filings.

The Page filing makes the following broadside generalization: “During the months before the 2016 Presidential election, the Defendants committed torts previously unseen in the history of the United States and without precedent in the annals of American law.”

There’s also this:
The Defendants unluckily gambled in 2016 with high hopes that some of the defamatory dirt spread with their defamatory Dodgy Dossier deck might fertilize. Now, the [motion to dismiss] doubles down on their imprudent bets.

I have looked and I could not find any reference to any law school where Page is attending. Does anyone know if Page is actually in a law school?
19 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Top 5 Weirdest Things in Carter Page's Latest Filing in Lawsuit Against DNC (Original Post) Gothmog Dec 2018 OP
Carter Page says he has been the victim of " torts previously unseen in the history of the United St Gothmog Dec 2018 #1
This is a prime example of why pro se litigants suck. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #2
Please, please keep it up, Carter. (n/t) FreepFryer Dec 2018 #3
Who said "Pro Se is Latin for 'you lose'?" mahina Dec 2018 #4
Too funny. Hey he's got a PhD. underpants Dec 2018 #5
Sounds like his Ph.D. is kind of iffy: The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #7
Carter Page took three tries to get his PHD Gothmog Dec 2018 #10
One of his examiners said: The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #14
We both know lawyers are are guilty of this sin Gothmog Dec 2018 #17
According to his brief he's attending an overseas law school part-time The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #11
Good luck truing to take the bar exm Gothmog Dec 2018 #15
RICO? Domestic Terrorism? Dodgy Dossier? Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #6
Carter Page accuses the DNC of 'domestic terrorism' in bonkers legal filing -- he apparently wrote wi Gothmog Dec 2018 #8
Carter Page is using the address of the Oklahoma office of a large law firm Gothmog Dec 2018 #9
Maybe they are letting him use their law library. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #12
I did a deal with the Houston office of this firm a while back Gothmog Dec 2018 #13
Maybe this is really an insanity defense. LOL. Vinca Dec 2018 #16
What's with the navy Captain_New_York Dec 2018 #18
From my twitter feed Gothmog Dec 2018 #19

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,612 posts)
2. This is a prime example of why pro se litigants suck.
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 11:33 PM
Dec 2018

If his case had any merit he'd have been able to find a lawyer to represent him and wouldn't have to do it himself - although he could be one of those Dunning-Kruger exemplars who think they're so smart they don't need a lawyer.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,612 posts)
7. Sounds like his Ph.D. is kind of iffy:
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 11:40 PM
Dec 2018
Page received a PhD degree from SOAS, University of London in 2012, where he was supervised by Shirin Akiner. His doctoral dissertation on the transition of Asian countries from communism to capitalism was rejected twice before ultimately being accepted by new examiners. One of his original examiners later said Page "knew next to nothing" about the subject matter and was unfamiliar with "basic concepts" such as Marxism and state capitalism. He sought unsuccessfully to publish his dissertation as a book; a reviewer described it as "very analytically confused, just throwing a lot of stuff out there without any real kind of argument." Page blamed the rejection on anti-Russian and anti-American bias.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_Page

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,612 posts)
14. One of his examiners said:
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 12:30 AM
Dec 2018

“Page seemed to think that if he talked enough, people would think he was well-informed. In fact it was the reverse.”

Yup.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,612 posts)
11. According to his brief he's attending an overseas law school part-time
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 12:01 AM
Dec 2018

and he's moving to Oklahoma. There are a lot of words. A nice crunchy word salad that makes no fucking sense at all.

Gothmog

(144,945 posts)
15. Good luck truing to take the bar exm
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 01:21 AM
Dec 2018

Being accused being a Russian spy will not go over well with the bar examiners

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,262 posts)
6. RICO? Domestic Terrorism? Dodgy Dossier?
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 11:37 PM
Dec 2018

He's been mainlining Fox and Rush while consulting with Newt Moonbase Gingrich and Alex Demonic Possession Jones.

Gothmog

(144,945 posts)
8. Carter Page accuses the DNC of 'domestic terrorism' in bonkers legal filing -- he apparently wrote wi
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 11:44 PM
Dec 2018

This will be fun to watch


Gothmog

(144,945 posts)
9. Carter Page is using the address of the Oklahoma office of a large law firm
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 11:48 PM
Dec 2018

I have done deals with Gordon & Rees.


Gothmog

(144,945 posts)
13. I did a deal with the Houston office of this firm a while back
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 12:07 AM
Dec 2018

The Oklahoma office only has one attorney listed

Captain_New_York

(161 posts)
18. What's with the navy
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 03:51 PM
Dec 2018

As a former army officer I have to point out the predominance of weird Navy guys in this disaster of an administration. Page, Bannon, Spicer. I know we have “Benedict “ Flynn in the Army. Maybe since the navy ( with the exception of special ops and flyboys) haven’t fought a battle in almost 75 years ( Leyte Gulf in WW II)

Having had the misfortune to serve in combat, I know there is nothing that reveals character like being in fear for your life. Most of the Navy never have that opportunity

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Top 5 Weirdest Things in ...