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[allgood33]

1. We can win no matter what. We just need to get out our voters who stayed home or voted 3rd party.

YES WE CAN!!

[Nictuku]

2. Don't take the bait

[TheBlackAdder]

66. Yep, more RW & Russian divisivness. Half of those are probably Russian bots or bogus accounts.

[elleng]

4. Dear Mort, I'm happy you're here,

but would like to ask you to NOT post 'provocative' posts about Senator Sanders and his supporters. Life is hard enough.

I like him a lot, and recognize he's more progressive than many.

Thanks

E

[rusty quoin]

9. Thank you.

[Sherman A1]

5. You sure about that?

Do you have facts and surveys to back up your claim or are we just doing the divisive thing?

[NanceGreggs]

38. Crowd sizes mean nothing.

Bernie drew tremendous crowds - which never materialized into enough votes to win the primary.

[Sherman A1]

59. So we are going on your observations and opinion but

no empirical data, polls, surveys. I am a Sanders supporter who voted for HRC in the general so how do you account for me? Currently I am looking at Andrew Yang 2020 as my choice, but it is still early.

I expect a very wide field and whoever gets the nomination will get my vote in the general, that said I will pick my own candidate for the primary and they will get my vote at that point. I believe that is how the system is supposed to work or did I miss something?

[brush]

62. Is 2024 a Freudian slip or are you a Russian bot?

[Adsos Letter]

70. 2024?

[lapucelle]

75. 2024? What are you talking about?

[BannonsLiver]

33. I prefer the term "dead Enders".

[George II]

52. And short timers, I think that's what we'll see in this case.

[walkingman]

7. I also voted for Bernie in 2016 - I think there will be several progressive candidates

I hope the Green Party goes away. Although I will not vote on anyone that does not make Climate Change a major issue.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

8. Really? I voted for Bernie in my state's primary - and for HILLARY in the general election!

[SMC22307]

10. You might want to work on your pot-stirring skills.

This effort really was quite lame.

[Sherman A1]

60. Well Said

this has a certain odor to it.....

[redstatebluegirl]

11. Are you speaking for yourself?

Lots of Bernie supporters I know stayed home in November out of some stupid protest. I laughed and told them we would sweep without them and we did. To much emphasis is put on BS supporters and their "power" over our great party. This too shall pass....

[kstewart33]

23. Well said.

2020 won't repeat 2016 for these reasons:

Too many Dems won't support Bernie simply because he refuses to join the party. And too many Dems see Bernie as the spoiler who brought us Trump.

It will be much more difficult for Bernie to differentiate himself from other Dem candidates who are pushing similar policies. In almost every televised Dem debate, there will be many more than 2 or 3 candidates on stage, with many making similar points.

The media won't be smitten with Bernie this time around, and they won't intensely dislike any one Democrat the way they disliked Hillary. Most are aware of their anti-Hillary bias in 2016 though they won't admit it.

The media will continue to intensely dislike Trump.

If Bernie continues to refuse to release years of his tax returns, he'll pay for it because on this, he is no different from Trump.

He is simply too old. Polls indicate that much of the country wants a younger generation in Congress and the White House.

[democratisphere]

12. If true, it will be THEIR LOSS in 2020 just like it was THEIR LOSS in 2016.

Hope it doesn't happen!

[aikoaiko]

14. Is MIRT no longer active?

[SCantiGOP]

35. I presume this survived an Alert

Certainly a disruptive post. I won’t speculate on the motives of poster.

[RandySF]

15. Welcome to DU.

[katmondoo]

16. Disillusioned and disappointed at the end when he barely supported Hillary

Gave Trump an edge

[guruoo]

36. Really? Please proceed.

[redstateblues]

51. In those pictures Bernie looks less than enthusiastic

More like he delayed doing this until he was getting a ton of heat

[Adrahil]

55. What I heard in an interview...

Questioner:

Do you endorser Hillary Clinton for President?

Sanders:

Well, we must defeat Donald Trump, and to do that we need to vote for Hillary Clinton.

That's from memory, so maybe not an exact quote. But it struck that'd never heard such a back-handed endorsement. And I heard from more than one Bernie or Buster that he didn't really support HRC.

So.... whatever.

I'm glad he is in the Senate, I guess. But I am sick to death of this guy poking me in the eye and then saying he wants me to vote for him. Unless he gets the nomination, there is NO chance of that.

[Mariana]

18. How many is "too many"? nt.

[Mariana]

27. Well, if those Bernie voters are indeed lost to us

then we'd best forget about them and move on, don't you think?

[RandySF]

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[PatrickforO]

28. Thank you!

We don't need to refight the '16 primary.

[area51]

53. +1 n/t

[Bucky]

21. If your complaint is with American voters, then you need a different leader.

The voters aren't gonna change unless there's leadership that inspires them and moves a critical bulk of us toward righteousness and responsibility. It's a pisspoor workman who blames his tools.

[Henhouse]

22. I block any poster who tries to depress/supress the vote.

[PatrickforO]

24. Gosh, Mort, a lot of people who supported Bernie are right here

on this very site. Trump has about 51 million registered voters in his xenophobic, white supremacist base according to a recent survey. We have over 76 million.

I was a big Bernie supporter, and it was a bloody, ugly primary season. But when Clinton won, I supported and voted for her. Most people did.

Yes, there have been reports that some disillusioned Bernie supporters switched their votes to Stein, but you know what? I attribute this to the feverish work of Cozy Bear in certain swing districts. This is borne out by the fact Clinton earned nearly 3 million votes more than Trump nationally, and lost by mere thousands of votes in enough key districts to tip the Electoral College in Trump's favor.

You want to do something constructive? Okay...

1. Ix-nay on divisive comments around here.

2. Support the National Popular Vote Compact in your state. Essentially, if a state passes and its governor signs NPV legislation into law, the Electors in that state are then bound to vote the way the national popular vote went. Thus, if enough states join the Compact through enacting legislation, we circumvent the Electoral College and ensure the newly elected president will be elected by a majority of Americans and not some outmoded group put into place because the people calling the shots at that time did not trust the people.

[PatrickforO]

47. So...you didn't mention supporting the NPV Compact in your state.

Of course, you don't have to. Like any of us, you can roll any way you wish as a citizen/voter.

That said, your OP seems a bit like flame bait to me. No offense, but '16 was a bloody primary and while literally every Bernie supporter I associated with in my own state ended up voting for Clinton, it may be a few did not.

This is why we all need to get behind the NPV Compact. Had that been on the books in enough states, Clinton would be in the WH now.

[alittlelark]

25. OMG - Another one.....................................

[Downtown Hound]

29. You take a wrong turn somewhere, stranger?

[pampango]

31. Trump can count on 30-35% of the 2020 vote, not the 46% he got in 2016.

There will be fewer “my liberal candidate or I’m staying home” after seeing what that mentality caused in 2016.

Let ‘em all run in the Dem primary, push for a liberal agenda (like FDR after Hoover) then kick Trump and the GOP to the curb.

[PatrickforO]

49. You bet.

I'm thinking we're going to have a pretty big turnout in '20.

[Tiggeroshii]

32. Not in my world

Most bernie supporters i know (most of my immediate family) -and myself, simply want somebody who has a definite shot at beating trump.

[MoonRiver]

34. That's absurd.

You have no basis for saying such a thing.

[TexasBushwhacker]

37. You shouldn't assume every Bernie supporter is/was a Democrat

Some were independents. Some were even Republicans who LOATHED Trump. So to assume that they were bound in someway to vote for Clinton or another Democrat is misguided. Obviously I think any Democratic candidate is better than Trump, but I'm a Democrat.

[Hekate]

39. Welcome to DU

Enjoy your stay!

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

40. Wow. Yet another thread trashing Bernie and his supporters.

I recall quite clearly that in 2008 it seemed as though a lot of die hard Hillary supporters supposedly weren't going to vote for Obama. Does the word PUMA mean anything to you?

Meanwhile, every single Bernie supporter I knew did vote for Hillary in the end.

Honestly, you haven't a clue if you actually believe that.

[MuseRider]

41. I was a member of several

statewide Bernie groups and I know many who held their nose and voted for Hillary I do not know a single person who did not vote for her because Bernie. Not one single person. He beat her by quite a lot in the primary in my state yet all those I had any access to, and there were many through the groups, said from the moment she was the nominee that they would vote for her.

There is no reason to stir this up again. This has been hell here with so much crap like this. People vote how they vote and if they personally feel that there is no way to swallow a vote for who we put up then they do not vote for them. We can try to change that but this is not the way to do it. Until people here understand that others have their own sensibilities and even if you do not like it they will vote the way they want to. Put a decent candidate up that covers the majority of people and not just one little slice and you have less problem. Most people see the need to vote for a party but there are some who don't. Those are the people we need to work on. I seem to remember there were Hillary people who said they would not vote for Obama. I recall people saying they would not vote for Kerry, it happens. We need to grow the fuck up and stop this stupid post election candidate quibbling.

EDIT to add: I did not see that you are a new poster. While that does not mean you are a troll it might have given you a little leeway with this post a year and a half ago. At this point it is either stubborn ignorance or the wish to stir the board up again. That is easy to do given how the Bernie threads usually go. We really do not need more of this and my guess is we will see you post more of this kind of divisive crap. My hope is you will not but...have fun while you are here.

[PatrickforO]

45. Yes. For instance, I have some heartburn with some who are forming exploratory

committees or otherwise considering a run in 2020.

But when the dust settles, I will absolutely be voting for the Democrat.

[MuseRider]

48. It isn't an election

without the heartburn!

[guruoo]

42. Methinks the slinging sh** at Bernie plan isn't

quite working out as intended.

[still_one]

43. I am not defending or bashing Sanders supporters, but the fact is 80 to 90% of Sanders supporters vo

voted for the Democratic nominee in 2016, so your flame bait post is bullshit

[aikoaiko]

56. Thank you.

[klook]

44. Only your ninth day here...

Welcome (back?) to DU!

[jpak]

46. Go Away

Botttt

[EllieBC]

54. Is that supposed to be a threat?

Or a way to bully? “We won’t vote for anyone else so you better vote for BS in the primary”?

No thanks. Go ahead and take your red wagon home. Take Bernie with you.

[demmiblue]

58. You're not good at this. n/t

[brush]

74. You nailed it. All he had to do was embrace the party instead of bash it...

all campaign and he might've won.

Not smart.

[theaocp]

63. Bruh, bring the pizza.

Pretty sure his native language ain't English.

[WhiteTara]

64. How is Bernie going to run?

Democrats won't have him back as he is. I guess he can become a Republicon or run as a 3rd party spoiler.

[cwydro]

65. Obvious, dude.

Way obvious.

[Codeine]

67. Stop threatening people.

It’s boring and lame.

[Chemisse]

68. That's not going to work this time around.

Dems will not be so easy to divide.

[Autumn]

69. I'm going to call bullshit on that. As a Bernie supporter I will always vote for whomever the

nominees is. Every Bernie supporter I know voted Hillary in 2016.

But hey, I get it. That pot won't stir itself.

[WeekiWater]

71. You've put the broad brush down...

And gone with a pneumatic paint sprayer.

They have also proven you wrong in the past if polls are to be believed. An overwhelming number of the voted Clinton in the general.

[kimbutgar]

72. Sounds like these " so called" Bernie supporters are really Russian troll bots

Anyone in their right mind would not say this and refuse to vote for only Bernie after the last 3 horrible years of the orange maggot.

[obnoxiousdrunk]

73. Not creative at all.

Sad ..

[jberryhill]

76. Two hidden posts in eight days here

C'mon, hurry up.