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Mon Dec 31, 2018, 10:38 PM

I didn't know there was a Pearl Harbor conspiracy theory

But here it is, and as expected, breathtakingly stupid, so stupid that the wrong year is a minor mistake in contrast:


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Reply I didn't know there was a Pearl Harbor conspiracy theory (Original post)
NastyRiffraff Dec 2018 OP
Sherman A1 Dec 2018 #1
TexasTowelie Dec 2018 #5
Sherman A1 Jan 2019 #19
TexasTowelie Jan 2019 #20
Sherman A1 Jan 2019 #21
Liberal Jesus Freak Jan 2019 #27
TexasTowelie Jan 2019 #42
lastlib Jan 2019 #41
albacore Jan 2019 #17
WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2018 #2
oberliner Dec 2018 #3
dsc Dec 2018 #4
rurallib Jan 2019 #30
dameatball Jan 2019 #31
still_one Dec 2018 #6
elocs Dec 2018 #7
Trenzalore Dec 2018 #8
PJMcK Jan 2019 #29
johnp3907 Dec 2018 #9
Post removed Dec 2018 #10
LakeSuperiorView Jan 2019 #26
Girard442 Dec 2018 #11
LakeSuperiorView Jan 2019 #25
brush Dec 2018 #12
johnp3907 Dec 2018 #13
brush Dec 2018 #15
cwydro Jan 2019 #32
brush Jan 2019 #35
moriah Jan 2019 #37
arthurgoodwin Dec 2018 #14
Iggo Dec 2018 #16
Igel Jan 2019 #18
nuxvomica Jan 2019 #22
JI7 Jan 2019 #23
JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2019 #24
HopeAgain Jan 2019 #28
Victor_c3 Jan 2019 #33
dalton99a Jan 2019 #34
SidDithers Jan 2019 #36
MineralMan Jan 2019 #38
PatSeg Jan 2019 #39
Oneironaut Jan 2019 #40

Response to NastyRiffraff (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 10:40 PM

1. Of course

It was right after the Germans Attacked Pearl Harbor......

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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 10:45 PM

5. I thought it was the Italians.



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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 05:51 AM

19. I believe they had a hand in it

as well!

Or maybe that was the Bowling Green Massacre?

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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #19)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 05:55 AM

20. That one was attributed to

The Village Green Preservation Society.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #20)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 06:02 AM

21. I heard but have no factual basis to believe it

The Prairie Grass Restoration Group was supporting their efforts as well.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #20)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 09:21 AM

27. I thought it was the Village People.

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Response to Liberal Jesus Freak (Reply #27)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 04:53 PM

42. Why, look at that! They were there.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 12:55 PM

41. forget it, he's rollin'.....

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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 12:03 AM

17. Animal House...

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 10:43 PM

2. He was shitposting.

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 10:45 PM

3. That joke was going around in 2016 also

 

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 10:45 PM

4. actually there really was a conspiracy theory about Pearl Harbor

that FDR knew about it and let it happen in order to gain support for war against Japan.

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Response to dsc (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 09:45 AM

30. I will verify that

Think the first time I heard it was in the mid-60s.

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Response to dsc (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 09:52 AM

31. Correct. That has been around for years.

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 10:49 PM

6. The other conspiracy was that FDR knew about the attack on Peral Harbor, but did nothing so he

could use it as a pretext to enter the war.

That conspiracy was bullshit also

I guess it must be a variant of some segment of people who are always too willing to believe something regardless of proof or evidence to the contrary




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Response to NastyRiffraff (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 11:09 PM

8. There has been a conspiracy theory for years that FDR knew about the attack and let it happen

The crux of the theory is FDR wanted to get involved in WW2 but didn't have the political capital to enter the war.

It is horse shit since we probably wouldn't have let our entire fleet to be sunk.

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Response to Trenzalore (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 09:41 AM

29. Ah, but you miss the important part of this conspiracy theory!

FDR wanted the attack on the Pacific Fleet because the ships were antiquated and the Navy needed a modern fighting force. By allowing the Pearl Harbor attacks to destroy much of the Fleet, FDR had the act of war he needed to convince the Congress to enter the Pacific war. Then the Navy could build modern ships for the fight.

At least that's what some dolt told me.

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Tue Jan 1, 2019, 09:20 AM

26. This is the type of dramatized crap that makes conservatives doubt science.

 

The ancient aliens and other shows that have the same "experts" willing to say anything on camera to make money.

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 11:21 PM

11. Actually the planes didn't have to fly that far.

The Japanese pilots swam, towing the planes through the water with ropes held in their teeth.

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Response to Girard442 (Reply #11)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 09:14 AM

25. Everyone knows that the pilots sat in the planes while Sumo wrestlers towed them...

 

The ropes were attached to their Mawashi, the belts they wear. If you tried to hold a rope in your teeth, you would take in too much salt water.

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 11:24 PM

12. Flat-earther/Mecator Projection/unawareness of aircraft carriers stupidity.

Doesn't get much stupider.

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Response to johnp3907 (Reply #13)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 11:34 PM

15. I've heard many times of Japanese cables being intercepted before the attack...

which may have meant an attack was coming but that mercator map theory of planes having to fly that far is ridiculous.

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Response to brush (Reply #15)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 10:15 AM

32. It's satire, is what the other poster was trying to tell you.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #32)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 11:54 AM

35. Wonder what happened to clarity in writing?

I said in my earlier post that the OP was obviously from the flat-earther/mercator-projection group. They're apparently new to DU.

Oh, FYI. Here's something that should interest you:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211607970

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Response to brush (Reply #35)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 12:27 PM

37. The FB group is not for actual flat-earthers....

... or I doubt they'd be comparing Trump to a dodgy date when talking about the wall funding:

"Yeah, so here's the thing... I know I said I was taking you to dinner... and that Mexico would pay for it. But could you, just, like pay for dinner now? And then I'll get Mexico to pay for it ... later?" with a guy holding the dinner tab is their most recent post.

I think the group this was posted to, and the person who deliberately put in the wrong year in the caption for his dumb-beyond-words interpretation of a map and mocking of conspiracy nuts there, is on the side of the good guys.

Edit to add: unfortunately, as they say about the definition of good trolling, some satire (because of the people who are that stupid that exist) is sometimes hard to distinguish from genuine kookiness.

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 11:26 PM

14. Flat-Earther Conspiracy!

This is an obvious truth to the flat-earthers, as all the maps make it obvious you cannot go east from Japan to Hawaii without falling off the edge.

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 11:56 PM

16. Nice post, taterguy.

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 12:10 AM

18. Before I clicked on the link, I knew it was going to be this map.

The map was around before the tweet.

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 06:26 AM

22. Somebody has never played Pac-Man

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 06:49 AM

23. it looks like it's mocking conspiracy theories

but you never know these days.

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 07:29 AM

24. That's some great navigating,

if you're a strict believer in Mercator's map.

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 09:28 AM

28. Makes complete sense

if the Earth were indeed flat.

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 10:21 AM

33. However, they could've bombed Fort Sumnter

Thatís a lot closer. I think the Japanese had something to do with the Civil War.

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 11:00 AM

34. Good one!

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 12:13 PM

36. David Swanson used to post at DU...

and would, seriously, write almost every year about how FDR knew about the attack before hand.

Hell, he's still going with his Pearl Harbor fantasies.

Sid

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 12:43 PM

38. Clearly, That Caleb Harris II Guy Is a Flat-Earther, Too.

Wackadoo!

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 12:44 PM

39. I recall hearing FDR conspiracy theories

as a child, but not quite as far-fetched as this. More like FDR knew about the coming attack on Pearl Harbor before hand and did nothing to intervene because he wanted the U.S. to get involved in World War II. I think it may have been a relatively common belief among republicans at the time, but I was a child and really had no idea.

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 12:54 PM

40. Fact: Most Japanese pilots in WWII were killed by crashing into the Firmament.

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