General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Republican Party is in full suicide mode
They spent two years fearing Trump's voters and they lost the House anyway.
They are now totally silent on the Govt. shutdown. At present tens of thousands of government employees are getting fucked. Within another week or two, millions of non-government employees are going to get fucked with food stamps, tax returns and far, far more.
Yet, Mitch McConnell has pulled his head into his turtle shell and is trying to make believe that everything is just fine.
Nancy Pelosi has sent the Senate an exact duplicate of a bill the Senate passed two weeks ago. It's a bill that will end the shutdown and the insanity. And if Trump vetoes it, there will be enough votes in the Senate to override his veto.
But Mitch won't let it come up for a vote in the Senate. The exact same bill that passed the Senate two weeks ago and he won't let it come up for a vote???
His loyalty to the orange creature in the Oval Office is beyond astounding. So we must ask, what does Trump have on him? Or perhaps, what does Putin have on him? Is there a photo of Mitch screwing a Yak? More likely, it has to do with money. Russian money that has gone to Mitch himself and many in his party.
The criminal organization that calls itself the Republican Party is trying to lay low and hope this whole thing blows over.
It ain't going away, Mitch. It's all going to come out. Maybe Vladimir will offer you, Trump, and his children asylum in Moscow with a guarantee that he won't deport you. Hell, you might as well take it. On second thought, perhaps what the American justice system does to you might not be as bad as how Putin will treat you once he doesn't need you anymore.
You and your entire Republican Party have gone off a cliff. And you don't get any pity from me. All you get is this: You all deserve it, you motherfuckers.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Fuck Repukes. They are fucking traitors.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)are eating his sh.. and it is going to cause them deadly political health issues.
onit2day
(1,201 posts)RainCaster
(10,870 posts)Break out the popcorn and smile.
Cyrano
(15,035 posts)Nancy Pelosi is watching the Republicans go over a cliff. And she's going to do everything she can to help them hit maximum velocity.
The Republican Party has betrayed America. Nancy knows it and her committees are going to do everything in their power to make it apparent to all.
I don't know if she can reach the brain dead people who watch Fox "news" 24/7. But you know what? Fuck them too. At some point, even "mindless" people must start to "get it." But Fox viewers seem to be a different species. I seems to me that they are a deadly danger to democracy in general, and our freedoms in particular.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Rural_Progressive
(1,105 posts)let your opponent do all the work for you and Ms Pelosi has got her black belt in political aikido.
This does not end well for the orange gasbag or the repubs.
drmeow
(5,017 posts)especially when one side is the only side you hear.
Fox new is Soviet Central Television/Pravda headed by Goebbels. I'd like to see every one of them go the way of Julius Streicher. I'm not a fan of the death penalty and I can't even watch violent movies but I'd attend a public execution of Sean Hannity in a heartbeat.
certainot
(9,090 posts)fox is the cartoon cliff notes for talk radio, where the real unchallenged lying and repetition goes on but they needed to know how to coordinate with the russians at the state and fox never allowed the right to coordinate on the local and state level like talk radio does.
fox is part of the free speech spectrum. the rw talk radio 20-1 monopoly operates outside the free speech spectrum while its buzz moves the country 10-20 pts right
half the main fox blowhards started in talk radio, hannity still does a show where he can lie more and get more stupid and racist. they all know that their bullshit has already been or will soon be pounded into the earholes of 50 mil a week
the russians figured out years ago that 1500 coordinated radio stations basically following limbaugh were destroying democracy. they've been using it at least since 2008 when limbaugh withheld his support for mcccain until he picked palin, who was being courted by russians oil and gas as AK gov. that's when manafort was mccain campaign cochair. then the teabags, climategate from a russian hack in 2009, debt default, and so on.
fox got started 9 years after the talk radio and before fox that propaganda monopoly that dems still ignore gave republicans the house, hamstrung clinton, stopped single payer, did the groundwork for media and election deregulation, and so on.
hannity follows limbaugh, not the other way around.
the sad part is the left is doing nothing with the fact that talk radio and by extension fox are eventually doomed by artificial intelligence because it allows talk radio to be digitized and monitored and studied
- dems/left/liberals could shut rw radio and fox down this year if they stopped ignoring talk radio and did the minimum activity needed to inform the advertising industry that sooner or later they're going to have to start asking clients if they really want to advertise on stations that spew racism and lies all day and may increasingly be working for putin.
limbaugh and talk radio have been mentioned more in media the last week than in 30 previous years. continued blaming of fox will shift the blame back to fox and the talking heads will soon be back to studying fish without water, limbaugh will get his invisibility cloak back on, and by next election dems will be blaming spineless dems and media and getting trolled by putin into not voting because they allowed concessions on walls, trump justice, etc.
it might be different and maybe we'll get lucky if mueller finds stone etc were coordinating talk radio /trump/russian social media, but thats basically the pattern the last 30 years and more than likely the left will go back to ignoring talk radio as it attacks ocasio cortez and warren and castro and beto and makes them unacceptable for tens of millions based on unchallenged lying, blaming fox, and so on.
i didn't mean to dump this rant on you in particular, and i see more notice in the media of the part rw radio is playing, but fox cannot sell the big lies, it can't do the unchallenged repetition. it might start something but talk radio is the problem
drmeow
(5,017 posts)but it is infinitely worse than Fox.
essme
(1,207 posts)guruoo
(5,092 posts)thegoose
(3,115 posts)Begone, Pukes!
erronis
(15,241 posts)msdogi
(430 posts)this had not made sense for two years, why every single one of the repugs are complicit. Cannot believe every single one of them favors party over country, and their constituents. evil bastards, every one.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Of course, we had a strong suspicion and knew the Republicans were hiding something a year ago at least. As time has gone by were getting more of a handle on it. It wouldnt surprise me at all if what weve deduced would turn out to be very close to the truth.
Im confident well find out because too many are involved, and because Trump cant help his knee jerk bragging. He wants us to know exactly how and why hes able to screw us over. Its a pathetic gnawing hunger in his psyche and he craves obeisance, but he isnt very good at that either. Hes a lazy and incompetent villain who wants public glory and facile love too much.
Cyrano
(15,035 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)legacy. If you look at his career,it has been all about him and his quest for Power. My guess is,he retires next year. And from here on out,it will be all about legacy. And how he can still retain power.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)The last election. He will be gone this time. Even his kids despise him.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)negative,he will retreat like most GOPers and hide out as long as he can. During which time he will through little shit bombs from his Senate Podium daily blaming others for his lack of back bone.
Watch for John Thune to pop up in a attempt to blunt Mitch criticism . Thune will be the new Rethug Senate leader down the road.
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)of replacing McConnell?
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)schedules to raise holy hell with Slimy. My guess is the Rethugs will be all over TV bitching about how the Dems are holding them hostage and keeping them from their Constituents which is pure bull shit to start with.
Wounded Bear
(58,648 posts)Fine, just walk away with their pension and ignore the immense piles of shit they left behind.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,585 posts)This pure (and unconstitutional) exercise of power by McConnell will forever stand as the ultimate arrogance of a man who chose to ignore the rule of law in order to keep a black man from appointing three justices to the Supreme Court.
He said it was his proudest accomplishment; let it become his lasting legacy.
dem4decades
(11,288 posts)McConnell allowed Putin to interfere in our election, why?
oasis
(49,381 posts)Traitor.
shockey80
(4,379 posts)The question is why? It seems like they are committing suicide because of madness. They act like they are mentally ill.
2naSalit
(86,583 posts)They sure do change their tune after they have "the talk" with the cheato, like Lindsey Graham for instance. He has the goods on all of them and let's them know not to cross him or else. Most of them are pretty dirty.
FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)Most likely Cheeto is telling them what Pootie has on them. It sure worked on Graham and Mitchell, and probably a bunch of others as well.
MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)As "Deep throat" said - FOLLOW THE MONEY!
*He wouldn't let Garland get a hearing.
*He wouldn't let Obama warn of Russian interference
*He won't allow a vote to end the shut-down
He's GUILTY - He's GUILTY - he's GUILTY!!!!!!!
Russian money - NRA money (from Russia)
It's time for the turtle shell to be crushed!
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)How do you fire a senator?
Cyrano
(15,035 posts)Sound is hard to fake, but what if Mitch is screaming "I love you."
Okay, that's really an idiotic, obscene, ridiculous scenario. If I were Mitch, I'd worry much more about what may turn up in Robert Mueller's investigations.
Be afraid, Mitch. Be very afraid.
(Then again, if Putin has a yak thing ...)
3catwoman3
(23,975 posts)...everywhere, I most sincerely hope not.
Cyrano
(15,035 posts)You have given me my biggest chuckle of the evening.
3catwoman3
(23,975 posts)I often get a much needed belly-laugh from many of the witty people here at DU. My participation here keeps me sane.
populistdriven
(5,644 posts)Putin has maybe video of him with ketchup on his tie.
McConnell is so terrified of getting spanked that the skin on his ass has to be a single atom thick.
PatrickforO
(14,572 posts)When McConnell refused to work with Obama and Biden to stem Russian hacking in the election in 2016 he became a TRAITOR.
erronis
(15,241 posts)I don't believe those Founding people had any idea that a traitor in charge of the Senate could wipe out all controls in the government.
This needs to get fixed, somehow.
Woodycall
(259 posts)I believe you're spot on there.
BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)Ryan and McCarthy acknowledged that GOP reps have taken Russian money and said, "Let's keep it in the family, ha ha". The RNC and GOP PACs have taken dirty money from Russia and the NRA, possible via Russia. I am sure there is documentation of specific senators and the party as a whole who have accepted Putin's help.
Thekaspervote
(32,762 posts)No temper tantrums about the wall. Now that the Dems hold the house he is throwing major fits! I believe they.. dotard and his gopeee ilk see this as a win for them thinking they can shift the blame for the shutdown to the Dems... the Dems fold. The Dems are weakened, he gets his wall and congress returns in 2020 to the repukes and dotard is re-elected.
Having said that, I dont think its quite the way they expected...ha!!!!
yardwork
(61,599 posts)cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)It would explain alot of things such as his stonewalling before the election and his protecting Trump after things like the Russian meeting Trump swore never took place actually did take place.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Id like to see illuminated.
elmac
(4,642 posts)gademocrat7
(10,656 posts)Paladin
(28,254 posts)Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Wish he'd pop the cork on a few lesser crimes to get the inevitable back lash started.....and finally blown out like a candle when the big stuff comes in. Frankly, it's time for a bump to keep the other 80% of us on life support. Never experienced this level of stress in my entire life. Im too old for this nonsense.
Speaker Pelosi and Congress helps, but, the globe is watching and hoping as well.
dlk
(11,561 posts)It would be a gift to our democracy.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)eppur_se_muova
(36,261 posts)I'd love to think of Uglicans holding a gun to their collective heads and saying "don't laugh, you're next" but I'm afraid it's not going to go that way.
malaise
(268,976 posts)please
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)They were on the path to pass continuing resolutions to keep the gov't open. Then the right wing media got involved. And everyone changed their minds.
They must think the Dems will cave. Repugs don't care about working people so they don't care if the gov't workers get paid. I think they are counting on the Dems deciding enough is enough and giving in.
Maybe the house should hold hearings on the wall. Bring in engineers to explain how it will cost more than $5 billion and will take 10 years or more to build. Talk about cost to maintain. Bring in experts to explain how ineffective the wall is at stopping people. And then talk about how effective we can be at using technology to fight illegal immigration.
Let's debate the merits of the wall and show how both strategically and economically it's a really bad idea.
debsy
(530 posts)...or he is a Russian agent just as dumpster is. That would not surprise me in the slightest.
erronis
(15,241 posts)from there for a long time. (Or soylent green.)
PatSeg
(47,419 posts)in his country. He just wanted to use them and he did so very effectively. They're on their own now and I wouldn't be surprised if Putin throws them under the bus just for the fun of it.
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)3catwoman3
(23,975 posts)...as Trump. Maybe even more so, if that is possible, because he does not operate out of ignorance.
randr
(12,412 posts)They are terrified of the whole house of cards tumbling down.
They will figuratively have egg on their faces re: Humpty Trumpty
sprinkleeninow
(20,246 posts)Did I miss one?? 🤔
😝🤣
LW1977
(1,234 posts)Stuart G
(38,421 posts)proud patriot
(100,705 posts)I wrote this 15 years ago .. probably in the archives somewhere
this has been coming for a long time .. enjoy
POETIC EXTINCTION
desperate grasping , barely holding
unexplained convulsions of logic
Lashing out fierce screams of blame
thinking of survival Wailing Flailing
lying dealing death to surrvive
Screams , Pain , hate, agony , fear oh yes FEAR
Eating one's own, you know that kind of Fear
The fear of nightmares
Camouflage it , hide behind it , metamorph it
puffing plumage raising hackles loudly barking
changing colors
altering strategies smokescreens of stench
hungry predators, following the trail , searching
weakened hiding running Scared
hoping hoping predators circling
foccused dedicated hungry
backed into a corner
Cowering Sniveling Crying
The extinction of the republican party
proud patriot
TryLogic
(1,723 posts)Perseus
(4,341 posts)I think the turtle-man is up to his knees in dirt, he is kompromised.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)And never flinching. They have painted themselves into a corner, and being embarrassed by walking through the paint and getting their shoes stained like that in public is too frightening for those snowflakes.
thegoose
(3,115 posts)She said the Puke party was dead. What took so fucking long, "dahhhling?"
localroger
(3,626 posts)In 1950 the Republicans hadn't yet flipped the South by leveraging racism and hatred of the then-nonexistent Civil Rights Act.
Response to Cyrano (Original post)
elocs This message was self-deleted by its author.
Cyrano
(15,035 posts)A sane, Republican Party, by whatever name they choose to call themselves, is necessary.
Any one-party country doesn't take long to become a dictatorship.
We need an opposition party that has ideas with which we may disagree, but can understand.
Any and all democracies must have a balance of ideas/concepts/world-views. As long as fascist views are despised by both sides.
musicblind
(4,484 posts)As long as she is there, he won't do anything to annoy the "president."
Maine-i-acs
(1,499 posts)He does not give ANYTHING away freely, always expecting something back
More_Cowbell
(2,191 posts)The GOP is getting hammered on this issue. I think Trump's trying to work out a way to get around the wall issue (by saying that he'll pay for it some other way) and try to look like a hero. If that doesn't happen in the next week, I think Mitch will let it come to a vote.
What I don't understand is why someone isn't running Trump's "I'll shut it down" video ten times a day on TV and the radio.
Cyrano
(15,035 posts)Is a puzzlement.
guruoo
(5,092 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)One of mine put a FB post out that the Democrats were passing a Democratic bill that added money to funding to promote abortion (or something outrageous), but were continuing to refuse to fund Border Security's Wall. Etc. You know the spiel.
The alt-right base does not read real news. Trump has convinced them that news is "fake" and exists only to criticize them and make him look bad.
They get their information only from partisan rightwing sources...Fox is the main one, but the online ones, also, that we know so well.
These are people who would actually believe Hillary Clinton had a child abuse ring under a pizzaria in New York, that she was illegally sending classified information around the world, and such. They really are that stupid and uninformed. Some aren't...and they are delighted the alt-right mass doesn't ask questions or read news. They're in it for the money, so whatever helps that goal is great with them.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)them.
My hatred for the Republican party has grown significantly in the last 2 years and I seriously thought it was already at a maximum. It wasn't.
I hope to hell this kills their party of stupid and privilege once and for all.
struggle4progress
(118,282 posts)And when they saw what they had done, they gave themselves forty one
Cyrano
(15,035 posts)They have blood on their hands that can never be washed off.
And in case I'm being too obscure here, how about the children who have died at the Mexican border. Trump didn't do that without an entire political party that looked away and did nothing.
D23MIURG23
(2,850 posts)He's hoping the Dems will grudgingly include a little wall funding (less than dump wants, but some) and he'll be able to talk dump into signing it. He wins in this situation because dump can declare victory to the faux news crowd, and Democrats have pissed off their base with their first successful bill.
The only problem is that dump has already taken credit for the shutdown, and only about 25% of Americans want the wall enough to justify shutting down the government.
The Dems should get comfortable and get ready to start barraging the country with Schumer's video montage of Trump claiming that Mexico will pay for the wall.
underpants
(182,789 posts)Then Mara Liasson was on. Granted some of this comes from the White House but she made two interesting points:
1. The administration doesn't think Trump will suffer any politic fallout from the shutdown.
and then this...
2. For his base the wall is is vital and they take it very literally. According to her sources in the White House/Trumpians they don't think he can get re-elected if he doesn't get the wall.
guruoo
(5,092 posts)Jus'n yew watch!
Beartracks
(12,809 posts)calimary
(81,238 posts)UpInArms
(51,282 posts)McConnell surely knew as a participant in high level intelligence briefings in 2016 that our electoral process was under attack by the Russians. Two weeks after the Department of Homeland Security and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence issued a joint statement in October 2016 that the Russian government had directed the effort to interfere in our electoral process, McConnell's PAC accepted a $1 million donation from Blavatnik's AI-Altep Holdings. The PAC took another $1 million from Blavatnik's AI-Altep Holdings on March 30, 2017, just 10 days after former FBI Director James Comey publicly testified before the House Intelligence Committee about Russia's interference in the election.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,342 posts)Vinca
(50,269 posts)The toddler will fall on the floor and flail his arms and legs and shut it all down again.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)When they realize trump's going to bypass them altogether for his absolute power over them, and all of us, for putin. They know he's a corrupt criminal , and a terrorist doing what he's doing, but are so compromised like he is , and putin knows it.