Biden likely to make decision on 2020 run within next two weeks: report

[left-of-center2012]

Former Vice President Joe Biden (D) is likely to make a decision on whether he will run for the presidency in 2020 within the next two weeks, according to a New York Times report.

Biden has reportedly told those close to him that he does not feel other potential Democratic presidential contenders could beat President Trump

One Democrat he spoke to recently told the Times that Biden during a phone call said, “If you can persuade me there is somebody better who can win, I’m happy not to do it. But I don’t see the candidate who can clearly do what has to be done to win."

The former vice president during an appearance in Montana last month said that he believes he is "the most qualified person in the country to be president. I’ve been doing this my whole adult life, and the issues that are the most consequential relating to the plight of the middle class and our foreign policy are things that I have — even my critics would acknowledge, I may not be right, but I know a great deal about it,” he said, according to CNN

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/424096-biden-likely-to-make-decision-on-2020-run-within-next-two-weeks-report

[UniteFightBack]

1. So Joe is running then. nt

[LongtimeAZDem]

25. My guess? Only if Sanders runs. Biden will demolish him /nt

[violetpastille]

2. Most qualified is still HRC n/t

[left-of-center2012]

7. A few months back ...

A few months back,
we were told it was Oprah.

[violetpastille]

9. Then Avenatti!

Avenatti, if you please.

[Cha]

37. Those people were wrong.. Oprah is great but

not qualified.

violetpastille knows what she's talking about.

[lunamagica]

60. Yes, she is

[karynnj]

69. I would argue that Biden, Kerry, and Gore are easily equivilent to HRC in experience

All of them had at least 4 years in a Presidential cabinet and all three of them were in the Senate longer and acheived more there.

Not to mention, of the three, the one easiest to attack on management skills is Hillary.

[pnwmom]

3. I hope he realizes that his habit of nuzzling girls and women is bound to haunt him

in this MeToo era. I'm sure he didn't mean anything wrong by his behavior, but some of the girls and women involved look so uncomfortable.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, google Biden, women, nuzzle.

The ads have already made themselves.

[violetpastille]

4. +1

And the "gaffes".

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."

"In Delaware, the largest growth of population is Indian Americans, moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking."

ETA: Still a million times better than the best Republican.

[emulatorloo]

15. Senator Sanders is more of a gaffe maschine than Biden ever was

“I think you know there are a lot of white folks out there who are not necessarily racist who felt uncomfortable for the first time in their lives about whether or not they wanted to vote for an African-American,”

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/bernie-sanders-lots-of-not-necessarily-racist-whites-uncomfortable-voting-for-african-americans-gillum-abrams/

[violetpastille]

18. No argument from me!

I must confess I just auto-trashed all the Bernie threads. Otherwise I'd be right in there with you.

[Cha]

38. I think so.. lots of them, and those haven't been

blasted yet.

“I think you know there are a lot of white folks out there who are not necessarily racist who felt uncomfortable for the first time in their lives about whether or not they wanted to vote for an African-American,”

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/bernie-sanders-lots-of-not-necessarily-racist-whites-uncomfortable-voting-for-african-americans-gillum-abrams/

Mahalo, emulatorloo

[LongtimeAZDem]

13. Might be an asset; a majority of white women voted for a "pussy grabber" /nt

[pnwmom]

21. It won't be among Democratic women, and our nominee will need a massive turnout among Democrats. n/t

[LongtimeAZDem]

23. I don't honetly believe it will even be an issue. /nt

[pnwmom]

24. Spoken like a man. n/t

[BannonsLiver]

26. It'll definitely be an issue

For people who live in 1991. For those that don't, for those that can look around at the current state of affairs, it will not be.

[LongtimeAZDem]

27. Agreed /nt

[pnwmom]

61. When they start making ads with photos of Joe Biden nuzzling his nose into the nape of women's necks

or holding little girls faces and kissing their foreheads -- ads that show the women and girls looking uncomfortable, it will have an impact.

People dismiss it by saying -- truthfully -- that he doesn't have any bad intentions. That is true -- he doesn't.

But he clearly has made some women and girls uncomfortable. And in the MeToo era, that will be have a negative impact.

[BannonsLiver]

62. I know you want it to be disqualifying but there's little evidence it will be.

[pnwmom]

63. Except the photos and videos of the girls and women wincing. n/t

[BannonsLiver]

64. Yeah.

[dogman]

66. Worse when Anita Hill is factored in.

[pnwmom]

67. Right. But some here want to dismiss that as a mistake of his youth. n/t

[dogman]

68. If they had stopped there maybe.

I don't know about the Me Too movement either.

[Autumn]

5. The problem is, Joe is wrong. He's more than right.

There is probably not a single person discussing a run who would know as much about our foreign policy as Biden does and he has the credibility to fix what Trump has destroyed.

"he is the most qualified person in the country to be president. I’ve been doing this my whole adult life, and the issues that are the most consequential relating to the plight of the middle class and our foreign policy are things that I have — even my critics would acknowledge, I may not be right, but I know a great deal about it,”

[LongtimeAZDem]

10. +1 /nt

[emulatorloo]

17. +1

[Hoyt]

28. I'm not supporting anyone yet, but that's a good point. He could reverse the

international mess trump has created with a few phone calls abroad, allowing him to move to other pressing issues here.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

52. Joe, by FAR, is the most highly qualified potential candidate, given his 8 years as VP...

coupled with his Congressional experience, notably as it relates to foreign affairs. The only question for me is whether he's right on the ISSUES, as compared to other potential candidates, as THAT'S what will decide if the Lil Shroom Dick-tator can be beaten (no pun intended).

[Autumn]

53. Yes he is the most qualified. I'll wait and see where he stand on the issues,

foreign affairs are not my top priority. Once Trump is gone Dems can easily repair all the problems motherfucker has created with our allies and craft new foreign policy. Right now Jay Inslee is hitting the right button with me on climate change.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

55. Climate change is gonna be a HUGE issue for me... will be interested to see where Joe

stands on the Green New Deal and not just whether he supports it... but rather, whether he endorses it as enthusiastically as some of our leaders on this issue do.

[Autumn]

59. It is for me, that's why I'm paying close attention to Inslee. I need to see what they

think the priorities are. Joe was great as Obama VP and I want to see what he is on his own, unfettered.

[msongs]

6. just say no, joe nt

[Cha]

39. I welcome him into the fray.

[UTUSN]

11. Joe and Bernie, please don't. Thank you.

[Freddie]

14. 100%

Love all the other possibilities. Please not these 2.

[dalton99a]

33. Nov 2020 - Battle of the septuagenarian titans?

[UTUSN]

34. You know it!1

[still_one]

12. In my view he is the most qualified with the most experience of the potential candidates,

and we all know the personal tragedy why he didn't run in 2016, and because of that, I won't jump on him for his speculation that he could have beaten trump in 2016.

At this time I personally would like to see him as our nominee in 2020 for multiple reasons, however, if he decides not to run, I don't want to hear the bullshit how he could have beaten trump, or whoever the republicans choose for their nominee, which will probably be trump. Either he puts up or shuts up. You run or you don't, but please don't complain about how you shoulda or coulda if you decide not to run

[NurseJackie]

16. Democrat!

[still_one]

20. There are plenty of valid reasons why one could argue not to want Biden, but ego isn't one of them.

There isn't anyone who is running for President who doesn't have an ego

[Cha]

40. Biden's "ego"? Good Grief.. where do they

come up with this stuff?

[still_one]

49. I know Cha.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

22. He's smart, qualified and highly problematic. That's a no from me.

[lindysalsagal]

29. Everybody loves Biden. But...

We need a gotv candidate. I'm afraid it's not one of the old guard.

Sure, he'd be a great president, but he won't get the young vote.

[LongtimeAZDem]

30. Actually, it looks like he does quite well with younger voters:

"Biden gets an 84 - 7 percent favorability rating among Democrats and a 60 - 21 percent rating among voters 18 to 34 years old."

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2591

[pecosbob]

35. Then by all means, convince someone like O'Rourke to join him as VP.

[Cha]

41. Sounds good at this point.

[pecosbob]

43. In any case a choice of O'Rourke as VP only surrenders a House seat.

[Cha]

44. Beto already gave up his

House seat. So he's a leader in search of an office.

What’s Next for Beto O’Rourke?

https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/whats-next-for-beto

[pecosbob]

45. Okay...I know more than I did yesterday...

[Cha]

47. Always learning.. I should have

said "maybe" he's a leader in search of an office. Nothing's for sure.

[LongtimeAZDem]

46. Well, then, it's settled! :) /nt

[Cha]

48. lol How

convenient!

[pecosbob]

31. Biden's message of strong support for the middle class/working class will be a good thing

alongside Warren's fiscal sense and both will deter the Problem-Solver types from throwing a hat in the ring. Come a Dem or go home...

For those looking for flawless candidates, there is no such thing...if there were the right would try somehow make that a liability.

[Gothmog]

32. NYT-Joe Biden sees himself as the Democrats' best hope for 2020

We are blessed to have a number of great candidates. I have a soft place in my heart for Joe. I brought back a number of signs used during the National Convention and my son grabbed one of the Joe's signs. I took one for myself and the other delegate to the convention grabbed the last one. I believe that Joe would probably matched up best with trump

Link to tweet

[Cha]

42. Biden looks really good, strong, and healthy..

like he's been working out!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

54. Yes, Joe wouldve matched up better vs The Dotard & prolly wuda beat his azz, taking PA, MI & WI.

And Joe is the most qualified candidate, but, with a crowded field, his stance on specific issues will be highlighted... don't know if he'll have as much of an easier time of it, especially with his having been years removed from the Obama administration.

[Pope George Ringo II]

36. I'm in a catch-22 with Biden.

What I'd really like to see out of Biden is a running mate who could complement his flaws. I'm not going to get that in a primary.

The bottom line is that he's really not my first choice in the primary, but he's on the short list who could make me indecently happy with my choice in the general. It's weird, I admit.

[still_one]

50. Your analysis is quite reasonable. I think whoever our nominee is, the VP choice will be critical,

and you need someone to complement the weakness of whoever the Democratic nominee is.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

56. VP choices are always critical, as we've seen recently... Joe certainly helped in that regard.

[still_one]

57. Definitely. More so than it had been in the past as you pointed out

[Turbineguy]

51. I hope he runs.

We could use some skill and stature. With any luck, Nancy Pelosi will be President by then.

[karynnj]

70. It would take infinite luck - as the Republicans would not impeach both Pence and Trump

unless there was a sequence as there was with Nixon/Agnew.

IF, she IS President then, She would run for re-election!

[handmade34]

58. I will gladly support Joe Biden

https://americanpossibilities.org/

[sunonmars]

65. After Trump, anybody is better than Trump, and I do mean everybody.