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jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:16 PM Jan 2019

If you think a freshman congresswoman who actually connects with people is the problem..


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If you think a freshman congresswoman who actually connects with people and actually understands new technology is the problem with America, it may be that you are the problem with America.
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If you think a freshman congresswoman who actually connects with people is the problem.. (Original Post) jodymarie aimee Jan 2019 OP
Other than the small electorate in her safe district... brooklynite Jan 2019 #1
eyes and ears jodymarie aimee Jan 2019 #2
Wasn't it supposed to be "safe" for the guy she replaced? And... TreasonousBastard Jan 2019 #3
It was...and consequently he stopped paying attention. brooklynite Jan 2019 #16
2.3 million Twitter followers. BluesRunTheGame Jan 2019 #18
trump has 20 million per money.com msongs Jan 2019 #21
So how many elected Dems match him? How many KPN Jan 2019 #23
Is that including the ones at the Russian bot farm? n/t Mr.Bill Jan 2019 #26
She's been in Congress for 1 week and was unknown a few months ago. BluesRunTheGame Jan 2019 #31
apples + oranges equals strawman KelleyKramer Jan 2019 #59
Isn't there quite a bit right here at DU? KPN Jan 2019 #22
Thanks for confirming that these threads are about R B Garr Jan 2019 #63
Just ask anyone (even here) how many Mr.Bill Jan 2019 #27
Freshman Congresswomen without Googling Proud Veteran Jan 2019 #32
If they can't, they should be ashamed for being so ill-informed EffieBlack Jan 2019 #44
The average person in this country Mr.Bill Jan 2019 #45
I wasn't just referring to the "average" person - I was also referring to the DUers EffieBlack Jan 2019 #46
I understand. Mr.Bill Jan 2019 #48
in other words, you are the problem Kurt V. Jan 2019 #35
--- shanny Jan 2019 #55
If she is such a non-figure Bilegurken Jan 2019 #37
Ding, ding, ding!! We hava winna!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #58
Pardon me.... Who is the "Dem Establishment" that is "Attacking Her"? MrGrieves Jan 2019 #61
I feel "connected" to her... SMC22307 Jan 2019 #41
Not very deep. WeekiWater Jan 2019 #4
So she has no talent or ability? Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #8
Who said she has no talent or ability? WeekiWater Jan 2019 #10
Well, break it down for me, then. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #11
Ok. I'll let you stick with the thought she should be in the frying pan. WeekiWater Jan 2019 #14
Don't forget Rachel Maddow used to be Mr.Bill Jan 2019 #29
And quotes Alan Moore Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #5
politico's purpose is to divide Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #6
Absolutely Bilegurken Jan 2019 #38
"You can not rein in Latinas" "New party, who dis? " Autumn Jan 2019 #17
"cannot rein in Latinas" is a prejudiced statement, just not bigotted. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2019 #30
Amen to that! FiveGoodMen Jan 2019 #7
What people? n/t murielm99 Jan 2019 #9
She is very refreshing. It is nice to hear other voices rather than those demanding conformity. wasupaloopa Jan 2019 #12
I would say that justice Democrats demand conformity...and this primarying BS needs to stop. Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #19
I would guess justice democrats see it rxavtly KPN Jan 2019 #24
I see nothing good in justice Democrats....they are Democrats? ha Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #52
I understand. Never found Cenk to be KPN Jan 2019 #62
I find them horrible. They played a role in our 16 loss...and hate Democrats in my opinion. Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #68
No Ace Rothstein Jan 2019 #25
Yes thank you mountain grammy Jan 2019 #36
No it is how the party loses...we live in a center left country...much of our success was in red and Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #51
oh so we lost that district? shanny Jan 2019 #56
Yes they looked alike. Is that bad? wasupaloopa Jan 2019 #49
It just always struck me as odd that non-conformist have to conform too... Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #50
You start out using the word nonconformist then you build a case based on a word. wasupaloopa Jan 2019 #65
But in the creating of the movement new norms were created...is my point. I am not saying it was bad Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #66
And then we electced Nixon, twice, abandoned Carter, and then voted in Reagan twice and then Bush. LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #20
Her backing group wants to target Democrats in vulnerable districts; if she doesn't denounce that, LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #13
You all should just stop...I don't dislike the young lady...but kind of sick of hearing Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #15
+1,000 EffieBlack Jan 2019 #40
Sometimes fans can be a hindrance... Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #53
And, unfortunately, some fans become so devoted and protective, EffieBlack Jan 2019 #60
There is no savior...and when Democrats stopn looking for one in AOC, Sanders, Beto, and roll Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #69
isn't there a trash keyword function? shanny Jan 2019 #57
I have considered that but I like to read news about AOC. She is impressive, and I find her Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #70
You have no link/context. The premise as posited in the OP is NOT the issue. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2019 #28
Jahana Hayes? Sharice Davids? Katie Hill? George II Jan 2019 #33
Perfect nini Jan 2019 #67
I'm still closely watching and waiting... defacto7 Jan 2019 #34
I'm more than tired of minority rule. Kurt V. Jan 2019 #39
My Experience Is That Very Little Is Learned While Running One's Mouth DoctorJoJo Jan 2019 #42
Do you follow your own advice? Kaleva Jan 2019 #64
Lots of new female Members are connecting with people EffieBlack Jan 2019 #43
I love it when silly Republican tweeters get A-OCked griloco Jan 2019 #47
Amen. shanny Jan 2019 #54
 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
1. Other than the small electorate in her safe district...
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:21 PM
Jan 2019

...what is the evidence that she "connects with people"?

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
3. Wasn't it supposed to be "safe" for the guy she replaced? And...
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:28 PM
Jan 2019

look how fast she turned the dancing meme around.

She is someone to watch-- and be glad she's on our side.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
16. It was...and consequently he stopped paying attention.
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:37 PM
Jan 2019

Turnout in her district was 50,000 lower than the competitive race in Staten Island

Mr.Bill

(24,833 posts)
27. Just ask anyone (even here) how many
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 04:18 PM
Jan 2019

freshmen Congresspeople they can name without Googling.

Proud Veteran

(35 posts)
32. Freshman Congresswomen without Googling
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 04:40 PM
Jan 2019

Admit that I know of only a few freshman and they are all women. Besides AOC, their is Shalala and Davids.Plus the three from Michigan, Slotkin,Stevens,and my personal favorite MFer from my district Tlaib.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
44. If they can't, they should be ashamed for being so ill-informed
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 05:57 PM
Jan 2019

and for only paying attention to the one getting the most national press.

Mr.Bill

(24,833 posts)
45. The average person in this country
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 06:00 PM
Jan 2019

can't name their own congressional representative. Nor could they answer half the questions on the citizenship test.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
46. I wasn't just referring to the "average" person - I was also referring to the DUers
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 06:04 PM
Jan 2019

you referenced.

 

Bilegurken

(58 posts)
37. If she is such a non-figure
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 05:23 PM
Jan 2019

why is the right and the dem establishment attacking her? Where is the evidence that she should be assailed for her positions?

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
41. I feel "connected" to her...
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 05:31 PM
Jan 2019

and I'm an oldish suburban white lady living a couple of states away.

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
4. Not very deep.
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:30 PM
Jan 2019

That said, not only are there bigger fish to fry, she shouldn’t even be in the pan. She won’t be once the media finds a new person to stoke the flames of division.

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,187 posts)
11. Well, break it down for me, then.
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:35 PM
Jan 2019

"...she shouldn’t even be in the pan. She won’t be once the media finds a new person to stoke the flames of division."

Why shouldn't she be getting attention? Why do you argue the only reason people care about her is because of false division?

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,187 posts)
5. And quotes Alan Moore
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:30 PM
Jan 2019



For those without Twitter:
To quote Alan Moore: “None of you understand. I'm not locked up in here with YOU. You're locked up in here with ME.” 🤣


I mean, I think I couldn't like her any more, and then she does something like this.
 

Bilegurken

(58 posts)
38. Absolutely
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 05:24 PM
Jan 2019

They have essentially become a "fox lite" publication.

Why bother reading it? If the political junkies stopped going to that site, ad revenue would dry up. I would suggest a rolling boycott of that place.

Bernardo de La Paz

(51,095 posts)
30. "cannot rein in Latinas" is a prejudiced statement, just not bigotted.
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 04:22 PM
Jan 2019

It's a kind of supremacy ploy (Cristobal Alex ploy) that we would find objectionable coming out of a white guy's mouth. "You just can't rein in white guys. They rein you in."

A O-C will be reined in. If she is as smart as she appears to be so far, she will rein herself in and marshal her forces more effectively than trying to be loudly radical about everything everywhere every time with everybody. She is creating the impression that she just wants to be noticed, which is a bad impression to create while she backs some good ideas that could use support. Not good strategy. But it did work for the Moscow Agent Governing America, so who knows but I do know that as a group statistically Democrats and progressives work well with substance and facts, better than the opposition.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
12. She is very refreshing. It is nice to hear other voices rather than those demanding conformity.
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:36 PM
Jan 2019

We had a saying in the 60's, "bug the bourgeois."

Demsrule86

(71,033 posts)
19. I would say that justice Democrats demand conformity...and this primarying BS needs to stop.
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:41 PM
Jan 2019

Go after Republicans not Democrats in Democratic districts...waste of time and money. And I am not from the 60's but was watching a CNN show about the 60's the other day...and those non-conformist pretty much all looked alike.

Demsrule86

(71,033 posts)
52. I see nothing good in justice Democrats....they are Democrats? ha
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 10:45 PM
Jan 2019

I can't abide Cent and will never forgive him for 2016. They take money from Republicans and it shows.

KPN

(16,157 posts)
62. I understand. Never found Cenk to be
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:26 AM
Jan 2019

legitimate in the first place, but he’s one person.

Demsrule86

(71,033 posts)
68. I find them horrible. They played a role in our 16 loss...and hate Democrats in my opinion.
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 08:54 PM
Jan 2019

Ace Rothstein

(3,299 posts)
25. No
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 04:02 PM
Jan 2019

Going after Democrats in safe Democratic districts is how the party gets pulled to the left.

Demsrule86

(71,033 posts)
51. No it is how the party loses...we live in a center left country...much of our success was in red and
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 10:44 PM
Jan 2019

purple districts...move to far left and we lose. And sometimes the general can be lost.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
49. Yes they looked alike. Is that bad?
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:36 PM
Jan 2019

They were a minority and identified with each other by looking alike and read the same literature listened to the same music and hung around together.

Demsrule86

(71,033 posts)
50. It just always struck me as odd that non-conformist have to conform too...
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 10:42 PM
Jan 2019

What you describe is conforming and of course those who didn't meet the standards were no doubt marginalized...sometimes I envision a world where you can just be who you want but it never seems to happen. Social norms were enforced just as viciously no doubt by the counter culture as within the 'square' culture. But I was not present and not part of it.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
65. You start out using the word nonconformist then you build a case based on a word.
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 07:32 PM
Jan 2019

Just drop the word nonconformist and discuss what they were about. It wasn't about nonconformity. It was doing something, it was action, it was building a movement. It was change. It was about turning the norms on their head. It was about bringing in a new and better word. It was listening to your inner self. It was doing what you thought you should do without caring what others taught you.

It was about a new freedom and a desire to be and share with others who felt and thought the same way, thus the identity in dress and music and thought.

It wasn't about not being something, it was about being something new.

Demsrule86

(71,033 posts)
66. But in the creating of the movement new norms were created...is my point. I am not saying it was bad
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 08:47 PM
Jan 2019

or anything close to it. But there seem to be something in humans that breeds conformity even in the midst of revolution.

LongtimeAZDem

(4,515 posts)
20. And then we electced Nixon, twice, abandoned Carter, and then voted in Reagan twice and then Bush.
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:49 PM
Jan 2019

So, that worked well.

LongtimeAZDem

(4,515 posts)
13. Her backing group wants to target Democrats in vulnerable districts; if she doesn't denounce that,
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:36 PM
Jan 2019

then she is part of the problem. We don't need people who do the Republican's dirty work for them.

Demsrule86

(71,033 posts)
15. You all should just stop...I don't dislike the young lady...but kind of sick of hearing
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:37 PM
Jan 2019

about her...she is a newbie...let her be for a while...she needs some (years) experience before she can assume a leadership position. I think she shows promise. But let it go. I was going to trash her name but kind of enjoy hearing from her. The dance thing was awesome. I honestly think (not you) some of her supporters will cause her trouble if they continue to attempt to shove this talented young lady down people's throats...as time goes by, most will like her just fine.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
40. +1,000
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 05:31 PM
Jan 2019

As I've said, I hope she's savvy and focused enough not to get herself caught up in the increasingly breathless hype created by some of her more adoring fans, many of whom behave more like a cult than a constituency.

Demsrule86

(71,033 posts)
53. Sometimes fans can be a hindrance...
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 10:47 PM
Jan 2019

I see Democrats looking for a savior...Beto, Bernie...etc. We must save ourselves.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
60. And, unfortunately, some fans become so devoted and protective,
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 11:53 PM
Jan 2019

they assume their idol is the only true savior and alienate others by attacking anyone who doesn't agree and join their cool kids club.

Demsrule86

(71,033 posts)
69. There is no savior...and when Democrats stopn looking for one in AOC, Sanders, Beto, and roll
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 09:01 PM
Jan 2019

up their sleeves and elect Democrats in presidential years and mid-terms, our party and the country will prosper.

Demsrule86

(71,033 posts)
70. I have considered that but I like to read news about AOC. She is impressive, and I find her
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 09:05 PM
Jan 2019

interesting. I just can't stand the posts that gush -not the news stuff...positively nauseating...not saying any of your posts are like this or pointing fingers at anyone... they have right to post what they choose...I do think it could hurt AOC if we are not careful and that would be a shame.

Bernardo de La Paz

(51,095 posts)
28. You have no link/context. The premise as posited in the OP is NOT the issue.
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 04:18 PM
Jan 2019

I can guess at who the "freshMAN congressWOMAN" might be (disregarding the discombobulated choice of words), but I really can't be sure or say.

Without a link or context, I don't know what was said or written. I don't know if his premise has been miss-stated in the OP or not.

In any case, connecting with people is most certainly not considered a problem by anyone. Go ahead and flabbergast me if you can.

defacto7

(13,631 posts)
34. I'm still closely watching and waiting...
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 04:51 PM
Jan 2019

But I don't care if she connects with people, I don't care if she's popular, I don't care if she's entertaining, I don't care if she is technologically savvy. A lot of people fit that criteria good and bad. All I want to know is if she can do her job, and that waits to be seen. I have no way of knowing at this point.

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
39. I'm more than tired of minority rule.
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 05:24 PM
Jan 2019

Different players, with different motivations say we the people mean nothing.

 

DoctorJoJo

(1,134 posts)
42. My Experience Is That Very Little Is Learned While Running One's Mouth
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 05:47 PM
Jan 2019

She needs to listen more and learn a LOT more!

Kaleva

(38,399 posts)
64. Do you follow your own advice?
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 06:35 AM
Jan 2019

I don''t agree with your argument that people who post little here or just recently joined should be quiet.

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