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Greenwald is pushing this very dangerous flip of Dem history. (Original Post) Grasswire2 Jan 2019 OP
He's a Russia propaganda pusher playing a part, as are others repeating that lie. Claritie Pixie Jan 2019 #1
Russia's factories are testing their new models for the 2020 campaign dalton99a Jan 2019 #2
Trump appeasement Qutzupalotl Jan 2019 #3
I Guess He Napped Through Trump's Threats to Nuke North Korea? TomCADem Jan 2019 #4
Havent read it but thats rich. After 18 years of war and REQUIRED dedication by all Americans Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #5
Glenn Garbagewald, another Russian asset. comradebillyboy Jan 2019 #6
This guy's full of shit. Yes there are Democratic politicians who much to my chagrin have Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2019 #7
Greenwald is not a friend. In fact, he never was. MineralMan Jan 2019 #8
It's important to know the propaganda push that's happening. Grasswire2 Jan 2019 #9
It's good to identify and expose such trash dalton99a Jan 2019 #10
Yes. As long as everyone is aware of the slant of MineralMan Jan 2019 #11
I'm also seeing this frame from people inclined to support Green Party. Grasswire2 Jan 2019 #12
The Green Party is also not our friend in most things. MineralMan Jan 2019 #14
The same thing happened to Hillary. A big propaganda push. R B Garr Jan 2019 #13
Most, but not all of those who touted Greenwald's nonsense here MineralMan Jan 2019 #15
Amen to that, MM. I've noticed everything you described. R B Garr Jan 2019 #16
Yep. yardwork Jan 2019 #22
you once suggested to me, even outrage over what he said isn't worth posting. JHan Jan 2019 #19
I still feel the same. MineralMan Jan 2019 #23
I'm getting beaten up on a FB page for calling this a lie/propaganda. LOL Grasswire2 Jan 2019 #17
K&R UTUSN Jan 2019 #18
"Trump is not into killing, unlike Obama and Hillary." betsuni Jan 2019 #20
Greenwald is a Russian asset. yardwork Jan 2019 #21

Qutzupalotl

(15,015 posts)
3. Trump appeasement
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 02:02 PM
Jan 2019

What to say in response to “You Dems must want nuclear war with Russia!”:

Say, “I know which side I’m on. Do YOU?”

TomCADem

(17,710 posts)
4. I Guess He Napped Through Trump's Threats to Nuke North Korea?
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 02:03 PM
Jan 2019

Greendwald is sock puppet who happily attacked Democrats from the left. However, when Republicans took hold of all three branches of government, he almost played the role of a Trump defender in attacking the Mueller probe.

Also, who is threatening to back out of nuclear treaty with Russia? It wasn't President Obama.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
5. Havent read it but thats rich. After 18 years of war and REQUIRED dedication by all Americans
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 02:04 PM
Jan 2019

to beat the war drums since 911. very rich indeed.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,746 posts)
7. This guy's full of shit. Yes there are Democratic politicians who much to my chagrin have
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 02:28 PM
Jan 2019

supported these bullshit wars. And some voters might've gone along. There are also those who pretty much betrayed the party and their voters to pretty much become repukes because they majority of the party wasn't bloodthirsty enough. Lieberman, that duel moron from Georgia, etc. Just like in the 80s some became Reaganites because they felt the party wasn't "anti-communist" enough. Or in the 60s when they felt party leaders weren't racist enough. On and on and on....

We've always had to battle a faction of the party which has been on the wrong side of history. What he fails to mention is that (maybe with the exception of civil rights, before the flip) these are right wing ideas.

I opposed that stupid ass Iraq war when he was all gun-ho for it. I take him at his word that he "evolved" 9n this. But then there is Russia. Where his own staff reporters have debated him and pretty much owned him. He has decided to bury his head in the sand. Reached a conclusion early on and twist the constant emerging facts in order to propagandize.

Do I want US troops to get the fuck out of the Middle East? You bet your ass. But there's 0 nuances in this article. Nowhere is the word Kurds mentioned. They are about to be abandoned to he massacred, in part, because of the clusterfuck his boys Jr. and Cheney created. Sure these things go back hundreds of years before the US even existed. But at the very minimum some NATO forces should remain in order to deter Turks, Syrians or whomever from exterminating the people who have had NATO's back from day one. You just can't run out and say "fuck it" without at least a halfway decent strategy and betray your allies.

When The Intercept was first announced I was all for it. But Greenwald's an asshole troll who always seems to find a way to kiss up to or excuse the Poopy Diaper Toddler supposedly in charge. But that doesn't lump me in with the Lieberman types in the party.

MineralMan

(147,300 posts)
8. Greenwald is not a friend. In fact, he never was.
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 02:53 PM
Jan 2019

He's all tied up with Trump and the Russians. Why anyone ever paid any attention to him here, I do not understand.

Glenn Greenwald is a Libertarian with hooks to the Russians. He is not to be trusted. I said it many times in the past, when he was the darling of some DUers who are now long gone from DU.

Nothing he says is worthy of being on DU.

Grasswire2

(13,684 posts)
9. It's important to know the propaganda push that's happening.
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 02:56 PM
Jan 2019

It's seeping into the national conversation. A massive re-framing. Right before our eyes.

MineralMan

(147,300 posts)
11. Yes. As long as everyone is aware of the slant of
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 02:59 PM
Jan 2019

what is being posted. Greenwald is not our friend. He never, ever was. He's not a leftist, either.

That's why you'll see my comments point that out in every thread I see that originates from the Intercept. Some people are still fooled by Greenwald and his ilk.

Grasswire2

(13,684 posts)
12. I'm also seeing this frame from people inclined to support Green Party.
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 03:01 PM
Jan 2019

So some entity is promoting it to them.

MineralMan

(147,300 posts)
14. The Green Party is also not our friend in most things.
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 03:03 PM
Jan 2019

Jill Stein. Ralph Nader. I need say no more. They have cost us two presidencies. Fuck the Green Party! Fuck Glenn Greenwald!

When will we learn?

R B Garr

(17,359 posts)
13. The same thing happened to Hillary. A big propaganda push.
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 03:03 PM
Jan 2019

This is not new, especially from Greenwald. It’s hard not to remember his BS about her spread here.

MineralMan

(147,300 posts)
15. Most, but not all of those who touted Greenwald's nonsense here
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 03:05 PM
Jan 2019

are no longer on DU. They left, because their work was temporarily done. They'll be back, though. Some already are. Some never left. Some are already injecting their slow-acting poison on the 2020 primary season.

R B Garr

(17,359 posts)
16. Amen to that, MM. I've noticed everything you described.
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 03:15 PM
Jan 2019

Some of these actors don’t belong in this cycle anymore. Hopefully we’ve learned something. 🙏

JHan

(10,173 posts)
19. you once suggested to me, even outrage over what he said isn't worth posting.
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 06:15 PM
Jan 2019

or words to that effect and you were right. He needs to be treated as a nonentity.

Grasswire2

(13,684 posts)
17. I'm getting beaten up on a FB page for calling this a lie/propaganda. LOL
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 03:18 PM
Jan 2019

Interestingly, the members of the group on the page seem to be mostly located in South America or have very odd militaristic profiles.

betsuni

(27,255 posts)
20. "Trump is not into killing, unlike Obama and Hillary."
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 06:34 PM
Jan 2019

Typical JPR comment in 2016. I think this "Dems are the real warmongers" stuff started after Snowden/Greenwald. It never ends.

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